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Just caught up on this build, awesome!
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Here is another version of a Volvo/LS swap for sale!
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Well, got the car almost all the way to Pacific Friday night...its about 180 miles from Portland north. I made it 178 miles when I took the offramp a guy pulled up behind me and told me my trailer was smoking......I bail out and get to looking. What I found is with the side door, the fender just sits in two little pockets to hold it in. The entire fender just fell over, would have been just fine but it wedged itself between the car and the tire and destroyed the inside of the tire, not to mention hot rubber all over both the car and the trailer. Good fun. Moved the fender and limped it to the track. Later in the evening I swapped out the spare. ATC is going to take care of a new inner fender and replacing the spare tire for me already. https://i.imgur.com/yFwQJTIh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FHBjBCOh.jpg 3 hours and 45 minutes to get there......ridiculous traffic. I pull in, they moved start times up 20 minutes. Literally unload the car, get safety gear, drive to tech, drive to grid, last car in the line and roll onto the track. Maybe 10 mins between arrival to on track. https://i.imgur.com/K5kx5oQh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HZyaM4dh.jpg I ran the first session, car feels ok, steering is awesome, no more moving steering wheel, the car feels suspension wise tight for the first time ever and I was able to focus on driving this time out instead of worrying about what the hell was going on with the car. Rear feels loose though, a little floaty. Ran 20 min session, had one stoppage for a blown tire. Came back to pits, no leaks, check tires, hot was up to 42 lbs......woah, thats way to high. Drop pressures down to 35 front and 34 rear. Have a little coolant coming out from the overflow, so drain that, not much in it and throw a zip tie on the hose. Add in 5 gallons of fuel. Car still leaks fuel out the filler neck by the way so I cannot fill it full without it getting really bad losing fuel. Back on track, car is ****ing dialed , little bit of push if I am off my line or come in too hot but I think thats a driver thing not a car thing. Things are running really well, I run my 20 minute session, we have a driver blow an engine on the back straight in a honda, didnt oil the track down, just blown up. So we get brought in while the wrecker gets him. Finished the session car was working really well. Came in, threw in 3 gallons of fuel, check tires, all good. Go out for 3rd session and its fast. I got in three or four good laps, but then get a black flag waved at me. I come in to hot pits to see whats up, they say nothing, we didnt flag you at all. Just as I am waiting to come out of hot pits an ls swapped e36 comes down the straightaway smoking like mad, pulls off just after the wall so we wait. Track was Red flagged so thats a stop all on track for fire. I ended up being the pace car and brought all the cars back in to hot pits. https://i.imgur.com/4ZNYIIhh.jpg Get the next 10 mins on track, had some fun with a Focus RS that I got around, then an m2 that I got around and finished up the session. Hands down the best the car has performed since its been done, Gaining a little confidence in it now. I left the track about 9 pm and rolled into the driveway at home just before midnight. Long day, but got to hang out with some great friends and have a killer evening. https://i.imgur.com/d0WKzSxh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yTZaSkQh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vAtRBv0h.jpg So now what, give the garage a wonderful overdue cleaning, worked on a buddies Buick Lucerne replacing a motor mount, detail up the jeep and figure out plans for next weekend =) Garage is small, but keeping it super organized keeps me trucking away on projects. I do my best to keep as much stuff off the floor and put away as I can. https://i.imgur.com/r0bu4Yoh.jpg Oh, yeah, Cam, Pulley, 102mm CNC ported snout, 95 lb injectors, valve springs all should be here tomorrow. Should be good for at least another 100 wheel if not a little more.:cool: Sean |
Now that sounds like a fun filled day!! Glad the car worked as it should...
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Man this thing is so cool. I've always thought the boxy styling of this era Volvo was neat, and you really killed it on rim/tire size, width, ride height, and just overall stance. Thing looks amazing... I want one!
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Good to hear you're getting the bugs out, Sean. Regarding your last comment here, let's have some details: "Oh, yeah, Cam, Pulley, 102mm CNC ported snout, 95 lb injectors, valve springs all should be here tomorrow. Should be good for at least another 100 wheel if not a little more."
I might have another LS on the way for a different car (524TD), so I'm trying to broaden horizons a bit beyond the LS9 cam and Deka 80s . . . |
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Thanks man, its a little different than the usual but people seem to love the thing. I wish it was a little bit lower but might get to that once I get the 315's and flare it. Appreciate the props for sure. Quote:
Nothing Crazy on the setup. It will be: GM 95 lb injectors (still on Pump Gas so no need for anything crazy) BTR Stage 2 Blower cam BTR Valve Springs BTR Keepers and Valve Seals GripTech 2.45 hub and replaceable pulley 102mm CNC Ported factory snout. Still debating on doing a 102mm Throttle body or not. Car will get a full fresh tune on it with the new setup, probably be about 12 lbs of boost with the new setup and shooting for 600 wheel with the new setup. I feel that the transmission and rearend might need some stuff done to it to hold up with this kind of power see how it fares the rest of the summer but I have been driving the piss out of it the last few months. I built it to drive it and I am totally doing that!!!! Sean |
Goodies showed up yesterday at the house, now if I can just figure out some time to get them installed. Lance Draeger has been awesome to work with on the LSA Stuff, always available for questions, wonderful shipping and just good to deal with. At this point it might be August.
https://i.imgur.com/5mdcRR7h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ee2l5Aeh.jpg :-P Sean |
Fun weekend of car ****.
Headed up to the Olympic Peninsula on Friday after work to a little Casino in Shelton Wa. Its a fun place off the beaten path, easy to stay at, always has trailer parking available. Took a few mins to clean up the setup after arriving. Always like keeping things clean and tidy. https://i.imgur.com/hMvJuSFh.jpg Ran autocross practice all day Saturday with the BCA guys. Killer group of people, always low key. The grounds were awesome. Its an old abandoned air strip so speeds were much higher than usual. Courses were about 1 minute each. We ran 1 course before lunch and 1 course after lunch. https://i.imgur.com/YxrnWloh.jpg Kristi taking her first ride ever in the car on a course. https://i.imgur.com/0onc8Nbh.jpg She had a blast, but had no idea how violent it would be in the car :omg: Very good times. Took my dad for a spin. He lives up there and came down to hang out for the day, has not ridden in anything this fast in a long, long time. :-P https://i.imgur.com/Po2l9nDh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qNK8xQWh.jpg No idea if this will work or not, short clip coming into the stop. https://i.imgur.com/DZkbjhSh.mp4 Took me a couple laps to get to know the course but once I did I got pretty quick, still a couple of seconds off pace from the super fast cars like the GT3 and a boosted miata but very happy with what I am learning, both about the car and the driver. Looking ahead, smooth, less braking, more throttle early on all helped me out a ton. Car was very happy with 34 psi front and 32 psi rear tires. I was pushing a bit in the sweepers, adjusted the rear coilovers stiffer and it got worse, softened them up 4 clicks and I picked up a second. I didnt turn a wrench on it all day except checking lug nuts and driving it. More seat time and I think Ill be ready to do a little more competitive stuff. Been having fun driving the car. I was beat though. I had 18,000 steps on Saturday alone. Headed to an event in Seattle on Sunday then home. All in all a great weekend of car stuff, even made it out to Red Door Meet in Portland. Always interesting to say the least. Track day on Friday at PIR, going to take a break after that for a bit, getting a little burned out. |
Not much of an update. Had some time yesterday so I got the front pads swapped back out for the Wilwood Track pads. Swapping out to the stock pads was the right thing to do on the autocross course, I had no issues locking up the fronts once I did that. So that is my new routine.
You know you have done this a lot when you know exactly what tools you need. https://i.imgur.com/9yaKuknh.jpg Gave the frontend a once over, drained the catch can....hardly anything in it, checked all the fluids and filled it up with gas. Thats when things went a little sideways. I have only filled the tank once before as I have had sloshing issues out the filler neck. Drove back home and got a huge amount of fuel leaking out onto the garage floor.....out the vent this time. It was time for a redo of my venting system, I needed a high point in the system, some way to keep the liquid fuel from getting into my charcoal canister. So what I did was came out of the stock fuel assembly with 1/4" hose, to piece of NICOP line. Came out the drivers side and then have a 12" vertical riser up by the hinge assembly and back down. This should keep the liquid from being able to get into my vent line. Previously it was almost all horizontal allowing liquid to get in there and plug it up. When I took the canister out, I drained a fair bit of raw fuel out of it. I spaced on taking any pics though. Took it out for a spin to check out my new mods and it seemed to be ok. Less smelly now than ever before. Curious how it does on track and if I get fuel coming out. While out and about I snapped some pics though just enjoying the car a little bit. Its a little stiff around town but awesome on backroads. Its a little weird though, after really knowing what the car can do on track, I take it pretty easy on the backroads just a nice cruise with some good corners. https://i.imgur.com/z1mxGWUh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/H3Gd7wOh.jpg This is one of my favorite shots of the car. Just love this frontend. https://i.imgur.com/mP79Qtvh.jpg On the waiting list for TNIA in Portland tonight. |
Well, had a super interesting track night on Friday. First session went out and got a few good laps in then I saw something fly out from the side of the car and a clunk, so I came into the pits.
Got the car up in the air to find that the body mounted sway bar bushing had ejected out from the sway bar clamp. I never realized until that day that there was really nothing holding the bushing in at all from sliding side to side. I think some power steering fluid helped lube it up and it just spit out. I cut up some heater hose into chunks, wrapped it around the bar and stacked up some square bits, wrapped the whole thing with electrical tape and zip ties and went out on track again. Had some slower cars to get around then found myself in the faster cars, passed them in the passing zones until I caught up to that one guy. Dude was in a newer white Mustang GT350 and would not give me the point by. I made it very clear that I would like by, I was very courteous at first just getting close to his bumper, then half way into the passing zone, hanging out (he was way off line through the turns) in the corners, He was well aware we made eye contact numerous times in his side mirror that I would like by but he was having none of this old ****ty car getting around him. I finally got a little tired of it after maybe 10 minutes of this and pulled up right next to him at about 110 mph and looked over at him, finally he gave me the point by. 4 or 5 corners later, he wasnt even in the mirror on the straights and I had a great rest of the session. I am not that fast of a driver, but I have a fair bit of seat time and pay close attention to the mirrors. If I am the slower car I dont want to hold anyone up at all, hell, I usually learn something when I get passed by a faster car. Just with everyone had that mentallity on fun track days, nobody is winning today, we are just having fun.....everyone gets competitive though I get that. I ran the car hard the whole 20 minute session. Temps creeped up to 230 at the checker and I smelled fuel....cool down lap got me to the 2teens temp wise. Pulled into the pits and cracked the gas cap to a **** ton of pressure in the tank. Apparently I finally have a gas cap that is tight and sealed up =) I called it a night, shot the **** with some buddies and grabbed dinner. Spent Saturday fixing what I believed to be my problems..... When I initially installed all of this I was having fuel sloshing out the filler neck so obviously was not able to hold pressure. I had installed the rollover valve inside the fuel filler door but it was mounted on an angle. I believe that when the fuel got warm it expanded, on a hard left hand corner the ball on the rollover valve closed the valve and once it had a little pressure on it it just stayed closed. I proved this theory in the garage Saturday. So another rework of the fuel tank and vent. Built a little bracket in the filler door to hold the rollover valve at the proper position. https://i.imgur.com/D49nKp5h.jpg Here is my vent loop on the drivers side to keep any raw fuel from getting into the charcoal canister and out the vent. https://i.imgur.com/76Po4Hnh.jpg Still tucks away almost all unseen. I want to build a rear firewall to go behind the seats, thats in the short term plan. https://i.imgur.com/ugAvMtEh.jpg So while going through all this, I found the fuel tank to be really warm, like almost hot to the touch. With the exhaust so close to the fuel tank I took some time to pull off the rear section, fix a hanger issue, add in a taller bump stop to keep it from banging on the exhaust. I hate this stuff, but it does work. So I wrapped this small section with the titanium wrap and put a titanium heat shield on it right next to the fuel tank. I hope that it helps. I also wrapped the tank with some DEI reflective stick on stuff to try and reflect the heat rather than absorb it. https://i.imgur.com/5kg7r4mh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0wD3julh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/94BZT3dh.jpg I have been pushing the car pretty hard the last few months. Its time for a little break from beating on it. Going to get the front sway bar ironed out and install a stereo, work on the rear firewall and call it done for a little while. Radwood on the 20th, then GoodGuys Puyallup the weekend after that. Took a break yesterday and took the buggy out, I have had this thing probably 15 years. Its like old trusty... https://i.imgur.com/iFrZAsrh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BxnqIPLh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UNvo46uh.jpg Couple of buddies just finished their rigs so we had a first run. They all did awesome and beautiful rigs. I didnt have a passenger so not too many pics of action. Happy Monday!! Sean |
That's awesome.
Those damn slow Mustangs and their slow Ford motors! :lol: |
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Seems this forum, well, forums in general are pretty dead these days. I am not a facebook fan so where is everyone hearing about events these days? Sean |
Congrats on getting the car track ready Sean, now just keep it a while nad enjoy it like you do your buggy.
Speaking of your buggy, is it street legal? Now that I'm in an area close by the mountains, I'm itching for some sort of trail rig again. My last one was a 1953 Willys Jeep when I was 14 years old. :D I'm trying to decide which way I want it to lean, more trail rig or more highway rig with trail capabilities. it'll probably end up like my Monte, split personality and not do any of it real well... |
Sean, it is great to hear about the evolution of the Volvo--that and your MacGyverisms. It's hard not to feel suddenly defeated when stuff breaks at the track, which is like every time for a lot of us, so good work on that front. You're making work fun again.
At the auto-x I went to last weekend (first one in years), Bob (Panteracer) and I were talking about how few pro-touring types were around. The scene begged the question of what happened to all of the people building bitchin' Camaros for just that thing a few years ago. There were exactly two bitchin' Camaros (and some usual suspects in Corvettes, but they've been there for 40 years, like the Maiers) that I noticed, and this was like a prime northern CA event. Just keep doing what's fun for you; the dopes like us who have it in our blood will always be around. That Jeep is awesome. One day . . . Quote:
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Really enjoy the evolution of your build!! Absolutely learn a ton watching you sort through your issues. The build is supposed to be fun, even when things dont go perfect.
Sincerely appreciate the time you spend taking pictures and typing out the details! Jeff- |
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Ill keep doing this cause its fun, I really enjoy track days more than autocross but find autocross a good time, wish you got more seat time and less stand around shagging cones time. I dont see any pro touring cars up here actually doing anything, never see them at an autocross or track day. I have only seen one pro touring car at 1 Track Night. Nothing to offend anyone here but those that only get driven to car shows seem like the next "hot rod" to me. Something that looks cool but rarely gets used. I do however find myself wishing that I had built the car to be a little more racecar. Or maybe Its just time to love the Volvo for what it is and get a dedicated track car, or lucky dog car. I have some drive for actual racing now. Quote:
I enjoy the build threads and hope that they help give someone some ideas or help them along the way. I know that they are a dying breed but its a good way to document what I am doing so I keep up on it. Appreciate the kind words, Sean |
Lucky Dog? Hells yes! You go I go...really.
Lance-Newer jeeps are super capable, even back to the TJ which started in 1997. Fairly comfortable on the street and easy point and shoot rigs off-road. Doesn’t take much to make a stock Jeep enjoyable off highway. Sean and I both have newer JK wranglers, set up a bit different but both comfortable on the highway and a blast off-road. Get one, you’ll have a blast. |
Absolutely nothing exciting to report. Summers in the HVAC service industry get pretty chaotic so I spend a lot more time at work than in the shoulder seasons. Work is good though.
Been messing around with cleaning stuff up in my shop, getting the superhitch retrofit on the 2018 3500 ram from the 2014 2500 has been a pain. Hope to have it all buttoned up tonight or tomorrow if the parts show up. Got the new inner window seals on the volvo and did a bunch of clean up on some things inside that were bugging me last night. Touched up a spot on the dash, did some good cleaning on the seatbelt latches, cleaned the seat tracks and installed a few final missing pieces of hardware. Have a couple weekends of car shows, this Saturday is Radwood up in Seattle and next weekend is GoodGuys at the Puyallup Fairgrounds. Not too sure how that will go since the car is totally not goodguys material but we shall see. Hope everyone has a wonderful week!!! Sean |
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Headed up to Radwood last weekend. Good times, some killer cars and wonderful outfits.....Kristi was far more interested in the clothes and music, me the cars.
Heading up to GoodGuys this weekend for their Puyallup show. https://i.imgur.com/MoJhXBBh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LCZsoJph.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GuIG2wkh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Rp6zIm5h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TJjAs3Bh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uz2C965h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/d8LooKsh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sz4wGJch.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NxpmgA9h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DsQnD9hh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KmFSl3Yh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IPP31Mnh.jpg |
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https://i.imgur.com/0Xv9nfkh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/d8pxNHwh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vTRgHFeh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gunkWtHh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3TDBktph.jpg Some killer cars. Clearly I have a style of car I like....super clean, modified and a nice mellow stance. |
Looks like an awesome show! I see a whole bunch of neat cars in the pics.
Thanks for sharing!! Jeff- |
Yeh, really nice show. Super clean cars, love the diversity.
I have not been to a show like this in the Bay Area. (Maybe there out driving them :shakehead:) |
Has been a while since the last update. Took the car up to goodguys a few weeks back and hung out with some great friends old and new. Some killer stuff there mostly hot rods but a few crusty cars and a few killer pro touring cars. Really hoping that they add an autocross to the event so there is something a little more active to do there. Didnt take too many photos.
Couple updates. Car was still smelling of fuel so I popped the access door and found the fuel pump not very tight in the tank still even though the hardware was all tight. Its a Holley 12-133 in case anyone ever runs into this situation. I didnt take any photos but the problem is the hardware to tighten leaves greater than an 1/8" gap, with the thickness of the fuel tank being just sheetmetal and their foam gasket collapsing to less than 1/16" it left a lot of room in there. I hand cut 2-1/8" Cork gaskets and stacked them up and buttoned things up. I believe I have a pretty good seal on things now and the garage doesnt stink as bad as it had. Ill keep an eye on it moving forward. This has been a big annoyance since I got the car together of it always smelling like fuel. The other thing I have been fighting is a front end shake above 56 mph. never below it. I have had the frontend apart several times, the last round I pulled the brakes apart and measured runout on everypart that spins with everything being less than .005" I didnt feel like I had anything bad going on that would cause the issue. Front tires were my next problem. A they were shot from all the track days and autocross. B. I was starting to believe they were the culprit of the vibe. https://i.imgur.com/B2x9hwnh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HTwnBFgh.jpg I mentioned it to my guys over at 503 Motoring and they took the time to check the old tire before pulling it off and found it had pretty excessive runout on one tire. They hooked me up and got the tires on and balanced as soon as they showed up. Got them mounted up and took it for a test drive and 95% of my vibrations are gone.....note that I feel any vibration in any car. Both my 18 Ram and Trackhawk have vibrations so I consider this an epic win!!! New sticky RE71r's mounted up for Fridays track day at PIR with Cascade Sports Car Club should be fun. Forecast is 80 and sunny. Have been having a little fun where I can fit it in. https://i.imgur.com/ST9k1GFh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/YpjmGXEh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Q9yVr2Oh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zN4TUKGh.jpg Also been doing tons of yardwork on the lot we picked up so that has taken some time too. Thinking about building another cummins truck this fall.....or possibly a 2 door JK Pickup. The ideas never stop in my little pea brain. Happy Thursday Sean |
I hate how lazy your posts make me feel, Sean (this is because of my laziness, especially when it's 105 outside). That said, the Jeep stuff is awesome. What does that thing use for springs? Did you build the chassis? :trophy-1302:
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I want that buggy!!!
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As a graduation present I bought my 18 year old nephew his very own track day, in his own car with his own Instructor. His folks are not car people so its all on me to make sure that he gets a car fill!! He loves spending time with us so this was an awesome day. Cascade Sports Car Club Track day at PIR. Weather was awesome, great group. Nephew learned a lot and had a blast. https://i.imgur.com/C9BRRKMh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uvjo1fhh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ADXwKIrh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Nslz8wch.jpg He had the slowest car on track but did a great job. Had an excellent instructor and learned more than a thing or two. I participated as well. Had an awesome day, other than still fuel system issues and leaks the car is pretty damn dialed in. Had fun running SOLO in the Advanced group. Two guys I got to spend some time with on track were a 2017 GT350 and a C7 grand sport with a small centrifugal supercharger on it. I think it was a Vortech setup. We had a blast. The c7 had just enough mustard to get past me late in the day. He could pull me by like a car or so on the straights. He was dynod at 570 wheel so that makes me feel pretty good. The GT350 couldnt get around me, He could close the gap a little on the straights (Mostly in the braking zone) but I would leave him on corner exits and through the turns. I helped the Vette guy with some lines and entry speed and he dropped some times off his laps by the end of the day. The folks in my run group were shocked at how fast and composed the car was......to be honest its the fastest I have been around PIR ever and I was a little surprised how well it did. https://i.imgur.com/5RCyCO1h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6plg293h.jpg Definitely looks good dirty. https://i.imgur.com/YhEFAFth.jpg Drove to cars and coffee, some errands, bought a bunch of stereo gear and cleaned out the glovebox to get ready for stereo install. This is just a fraction of events I have done or attended since I got this **** box done. This thing was built to be beat on and have fun. I have had my fair share of little issues but its been an absolute blast this summer. https://i.imgur.com/NGCtwIfh.jpg Started the stereo install last night. Overly complicated but it should be awesome. Sean |
Sean, at what point do you bail on all the existing fuel lines and make all new from scratch?
The fuel delivery problems\issues were by far the hardest part of the decision making I went thru on my recent EFI conversion. I can say that I'm very happy I choose the route I did. It is basically a Vaporworx kit that morphs an internally regulated late model Gen 5 Camaro fuel module into my stock tank with 2 corner pickups and one -6 PTFE braided steel feed line to the fuel rail. That's it... Provides a steady 58 psi to the rail, no return line, minimal hose end fittings for issues, super simple but effective. That and a way to vent the tank to a charcoal canister should take care of any fuel smell issues no? |
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Its exatly what I have. Single in tank HOLLEY Pump that is regulated to 60 PSI. I have one outlet from the tank to a single -6 line (Not stock) that runs to the fuel rails. I have issues with the actual Holley Hardware leaking at the tank. They are supposedly sending me parts to fix but I am not holding my breath. I believe I am leaking fuel from my vent line (Which also goes into a charcoal canister) Its a little complicated to explain but I am just not understanding how people get vent lines to work without losing fuel somehow. If there is someone on here that has experience with an underfloor mounted stock style fuel tank and vent system that does track days and isnt leaking fuel I am all ears. Sean |
I have zero experience, but what about adding a check valve to vent line to stop the sloshing of fuel in the tank, assume that's what is causing the fuel leak at high g's? Something like this:
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So these are not the best pictures but hopefully with an explanation it'll help with how the tank vent on my 1985 MCSS stock tank works.
This is what the pickup tube\sending unit\vent unit looks like installed. https://photos.smugmug.com/1985-Mont..._133458-XL.jpg This is what is inside the tank. https://photos.smugmug.com/1985-Mont..._185629-XL.jpg Basically one 3/8s line is the pickup tube from the sock on the bottom of the tank that fed the old fuel pump, the 5/16s line is the return from the old fuel pump and the other 3/8s line is the vent. I now have the two lines that led to the old mechanical pump blocked off and the 3/8s vent line and sender is all I am using this for. Just inside the tank the vent line has a 90 degree fitting with a splash flap maybe 1/4" away covering the end of the fitting. I don't have a good picture of this, sorry. Think of the splash flap as covering the end of the fitting but still allowing air to vent out or in the tank. Outside the tank the vent connects to a rubber fuel line which goes up over the rear axle and connects to a 3/8s hard line that runs up the driver side of the frame and connects to the charcoal canister in engine bay on the port that says "tank". The other connection on the canister says "carb" and is connected directly to a ported vacuum source on the throttle body. That's it... The O-ring seal on the pickup is an OEM design and works great, the 34 year old rubber line from the pickup to the hard line is still in great shape and doesn't seep or leak and all of the soft lines in engine bay have been replaced with new EFI rated rubber lines. The engine sucks on the canister intermittently as ported vacuum increases and decreases but doesn't hold steady pressure on the tank like manifold vacuum would. Hope that helps somewhat. My car would smell the garage up with fuel smell after parking it with the carb setup on it but now with the PTFE line and the TBI, it leaves zero fuel smell in the garage or while driving it hard. I haven't had it on track yet with the EFI but I expect it to be the same there as well. |
Thanks for the pointers and photos Lance. I dont have a purge valve in place, or a properly piped and installed charcoal canister at this time.
I am going to try one more round of venting changes, if they don't work Ill be figuring out a charcoal canister that gets piped into engine vacuum somehow. Been working on the tunes all week, no real pics to show yet but it should turn out good. Got some cool stuff going on, very simple but hope it nets some good sound quality. Cause remember this is a street car =) Got some pics from a local photog of the last track day at PIR last Friday. He did an awesome job of capturing some super fun times on track. Even managed to grab me pulling a tire on turn 12!!!! Here are a few of my faves https://i.imgur.com/L1zl99Fh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ToylaWih.jpg This Vette was pretty awesome and we had a wonderful time on track. Its a Grand Sport with a small supercharger setup. He was dynod at 580 wheel and could pull me just a little on the straights but as you can see it wasnt by much, I was glued to his bumper in this session until I got around him. Volvo was a little faster in the turns that he was. https://i.imgur.com/DPbRkWsh.jpg Priceless, Ferrari giving the Volvo a pointby https://i.imgur.com/i4MZrWJh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Y2SeKPUh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ebHB5kbh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ElhtQksh.jpg Peep that inside tire!! https://i.imgur.com/ML4AmeAh.jpg GT350 was fast but never fast enough to get around the old **** box. We had some great fun and it was good talks when we got back in the pits. https://i.imgur.com/OmGyc9ch.jpg |
So much cool right there!
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I can see the grin on your face from here... :D
https://i.imgur.com/ebHB5kbh.jpg I bet you all had a blast! Love running right with other cars and drivers of similar speed, especially in an old sh**box... lol... |
Given em the bidness!! That's gotta be a lot of fun....
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It's a small part of the puzzle, but the impact is comparatively large: the Ferrari point-by. There's that and running with a supercharged C7.
Old beige Volvo box, MFR's! This reminds me of a funny 1320 Video episode that included a very similar (in body, anyway + turbo LS) car called Mother____er Jones. I won't bother trying to insert it here (one can search YouTube), but the experience is excellent for all . . . Good work, sir! On the topic of pressurizing the fuel tank (especially in heat and with enthusiastic driving/Wally 450 pressures) the Falcon has always had some problem of this type, with both Ferd and LS engines. My latest attempt at relieving the dumb thing's pressure is a -8 rollover valve which is then plumbed to an old eBay catch can I've had forever. Here's hoping for less nasty in the trunk-ish area of the car. |
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Spent most of last week getting some tunes in this pig. Aside from 1 bad speaker its turned out very nice. This was very tough, locating everything getting the holes cut in the sheetmetal to line up with the new hole in the door card. Also missing the lower trim piece on the door sill and the crank for the windows. I had this location picked out a long time ago, as I wanted some additional holding power on the door panels. So these are drilled into the sheetmetal with full length screws. These are Audison 5x front speakers with Morel grilles on them (Better looking and fit the look and feel I was going for on the door panels) https://i.imgur.com/KmSmF9ph.jpg https://i.imgur.com/F2wDESyh.jpg The plan was to keep this simple looking from the onlooker. So instead of a traditional head unit I went for this setup. This is an Audison DRC, its a direct input into the Bit Ten from Audison and is a really cool, small and light piece. It took a little work with the dremel on the ashtray to make it fit but it fits pretty good. Not sure its the final placement but moving it is super easy. https://i.imgur.com/xBqGLB5h.jpg This runs to the Bit Ten in the passenger kick panel and has lots of great functions, I am running it all on bluetooth input so my phone controls all of the music to it. Its a fully progrmable device, Digital EQ, crossover, staging with 5 pre outs to amps. I have software on my laptop and program the Bit Ten from that via a cable. Its amazing what you can do with this piece. I installed an AD 400.4 amp with the rear channel Bridged for a super simple setup. Amp is under the passenger seat and that gave me great places to run the cables as I have ditched the rear seat air passages. https://i.imgur.com/rN1fwagh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lPl4AuJh.jpg Sub is a singe Fosgate Punch P2 DVC sub, single 4 ohm load how I have it wired in. We built the sub enclosure to fit tight between the down bars of the cage and tight to the floor to rear deck height. I covered the front in leather, then built a cover panel for the rear area to finish it off. https://i.imgur.com/RQY1aAOh.jpg I initially was just going to cover it but it was way to flat and boring, needed some detail so I thought on it overnight and got up at 5 (I am a terrible sleeper) and threw this together. https://i.imgur.com/j80Mqf1h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4wAfneBh.jpg Its super simple, but made a little more detail on the panel to make it look like something. The finished product. I used a small fox tail broom, cut in half and used the bristles mounted on the back of this panel to finish off the ends where the trunk hinges go. They are brown and blend right in. https://i.imgur.com/gw0zDfhh.jpg Took the car out for a nice 100 mile drive yesterday morning. Kept tuning on the stereo and I have to say for just 2 5" speakers and a 10" sub it sounds amazing. Car is pretty damn good. Drives great, cruises down the freeway at any speed you want to go very nice. 1600 RPM at 70 mph is ridiculous. Hauls ass on the road course and autocross. This weeks project is to fix my god awful fuel system...... Sean |
So I have been fighting with this fuel system since the car went together.
Have had issues with the fuel leaking from the filler neck, raw fuel coming out of the vent, fuel leaking out of the fuel pump at the tank. Its been fun. So after smelling fuel for the last time I decided to order some (lots of parts) and remount the pump and reconfigure the entire vent system on the car. A couple of notes for anyone reading through this thread and looking for fuel pump info. Having run both the aeromotive setup and the Holley drop in retrofit setups I can without a doubt say that the Aeromotive is a better engineered product. If I had it to do over again I would have put the Aeromotive in tank pump in. But here we are so here we go with trying to fix it. So when Holley sells this they give you a foam ring, the problem is the foam ring compresses thinner than the flange height so unless you have a .125" thick fuel tank, the foam ring compresses before this assembly is tight on top of the tank. I had tightened the pump down on initial install and retightened later down the road. When I pulled it apart the last time it was clear that these were over tightened and the rubber was pushed out. I believe all of this could be avoided by them machining the top of the assembly different. https://i.imgur.com/IgjKrv7h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UuH8lnXh.jpg Clearly this was not sealing. https://i.imgur.com/qN2KgWeh.jpg Holley was nice enough to ship me out new hardware after I told them my issues. So 5 new bolts, 5 new washers and a new foam ring. Next up was Revising the vent. The setup I had on it was vented from the stock sender, up a loop, and out a rollover valve mounted inside the fuel filler door. The vent line out of the Holley assembly was going to the factory line attached to the filler neck. So the first update was swapping those two. The new setup will be quite different. First new part going in is an in tank rollover valve. I rotated the openings on the rollover valve to be from the right and left then the vent line is now a -6 out the front of the assembly. I cut a cork gasket to take up the too high flange height and installed the new foam ring. https://i.imgur.com/R3TtEVWh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rayfCUXh.jpg Ready to go back in with all new hardware. So new plan for the vent line is off the front of the pump, instead of the side so hoping to limit the fuel slosh out the vent from side to side. It is aluminum line over to the passenger fender and a huge loop up to the rear window and down by the filler neck. https://i.imgur.com/tP6QIvAh.jpg Then out of that into a fuel catch can then out of the catch can top vented out the buttcheek. I fabbed this up out of some plate and a 3" mandrel bent stainless 45, a little bit of plate and some fittings. https://i.imgur.com/j7OgSVlh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1IdXXrah.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DhXatdbh.jpg All plumbed up with -6 an stuff. Pretty happy with how this turned out. https://i.imgur.com/qCF9I7dh.jpg Got it buttoned up this morning and took it out for a trip. The first time I have driven the car and had it not smell like fuel both inside and out. Filled it up with no issues. drove across town and back. I am truly hoping that I can move on with other stuff now but wont know until the next track day. Now to fix a few pesky interior rattles. |
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