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Flash68 06-28-2013 09:45 AM
With as fast as you are and a constantly improving suspension with tuning I am surprised this motor has lasted as long as it has without an accusump or dry sump.

Vince@Meanstreets 06-28-2013 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 490045)
With as fast as you are and a constantly improving suspension with tuning I am surprised this motor has lasted as long as it has without an accusump or dry sump.
With his increased speeds and forces he will be seeing soon its going to have to happen but not at the expense of other very important aspects of the car that shall be left unidentified.

Gaetano and I need to sit down and pin point actual issues and correect them. Doing that on a budget is tough on all of us. One change at a time.

Flash68 06-28-2013 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 490049)
With his increased speeds and forces he will be seeing soon its going to have to happen but not at the expense of other very important aspects of the car that shall be left unidentified.

Gaetano and I need to sit down and pin point actual issues and correect them. Doing that on a budget is tough on all of us. One change at a time.
Certainly you guys have a handle on it and are the only ones to decide the priority order best for you guys, but I would think protecting a very expensive aluminum block monster would be pretty high. :peepwall:

I was very glad to hear G purchased a full set of proper safety attire recently. :thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal 06-28-2013 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 490050)
I was very glad to hear G purchased a full set of proper safety attire recently. :thumbsup:
x2! :hail: :thumbsup:

Vince@Meanstreets 06-28-2013 11:36 AM
Don't get me wrong, there is a valid point in oiling protection but at this point is it truly a concern if he has adequate oil pressure, adequate oil cooling and filtering. With this type of usage engine failure is unpredictable but safeguards within his ability are in place. Come winter this car gets its planned teardown. It has been through three seasons with one failure.
We can throw tons of money at it now and it might fail just due to age. You never know and what I do know is we need to address the concerns that I can't mention without getting the stink eye.

It took him this long to replace his home depot bucket for a real one and thats only cause I took a dump in it. ROFL

intocarss 06-28-2013 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 490050)

I was very glad to hear G purchased a full set of proper safety attire recently. :thumbsup:
IT'S ABOUT TIME AND I HOPE YOU DO THE SAME

Track Junky 06-28-2013 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 490015)
A properly plumbed accumulator will use a one way valve or drain back filter so the oil is pushed from the accumulator right into the main galley. Payton is right, it will lube the crank and fill the pan so the pump doesn't cavitate. There is a pressure gauge on the accumulator with the manual valve. You just subtract the 6psi precharge off the total. I would simply rev up the engine with my right hand and close it at say 60 or 70 psi.
My understanding of the accumulators with the mechanical valves is that they will kick in at the oil pressure it was shut down at. If your shutting it down at 60 or 70 it wouldn't dispurse until you reached 60 or 70.

Sieg 06-28-2013 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 490068)
It took him this long to replace his home depot bucket for a real one and thats only cause I took a dump in it. ROFL
Now that's motivational!

Vegas69 06-28-2013 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 490162)
My understanding of the accumulators with the mechanical valves is that they will kick in at the oil pressure it was shut down at. If your shutting it down at 60 or 70 it wouldn't dispurse until you reached 60 or 70.
Your overthinking this whole deal. Once the manual valve is open, engine oil pressure and accumulator pressure are equal. If you start to lose oil pressure in a corner, the accumulator piston will simply push oil into the engine until pressure resumes to normal, then the accumulator piston will return and the cylinder will be at full capacity. It only reacts to a decrease in oil pressure on the engine side. It's like a shock for your suspension.

Flash68 06-28-2013 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 490068)

It took him this long to replace his home depot bucket for a real one and thats only cause I took a dump in it. ROFL
That's one way to :gitrdun:

:D

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 490159)
IT'S ABOUT TIME AND I HOPE YOU DO THE SAME
I got everything except a HANS and it's on the shopping list.

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 490195)
Your overthinking this whole deal. Once the manual valve is open, engine oil pressure and accumulator pressure are equal. If you start to lose oil pressure in a corner, the accumulator piston will simply push oil into the engine until pressure resumes to normal, then the accumulator piston will return and the cylinder will be at full capacity. It only reacts to a decrease in oil pressure on the engine side. It's like a shock for your suspension.
Don't mess with the SAE mechanic. :rules:


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