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68protouring454 08-14-2007 08:53 PM

goodluck mike, i would get jodys help, your not getting much anywhere else.

camcojb 08-14-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kp.touring
Well I've been quite, but here I go. In re-but to no doing our home work were do you get off with that. People are throw theirr 2 cents in and those ideas were look at from the start. What we have here is a packaging problem, there is no room for a taller hat over the carb. We know the hat is not helping power, also a single plan intake would work better and ducting the air inlet to get air from outside the car would be awesome, but now we are back to packaging. The other thing is Ca's crap gas we may have 91 oct but it doesn't have the btu's that other areas have so yes our numbers are not going to be those high earth shaking numbers.
Bottom line is Mike's car does have more in it, given time to tune and add some way to cool the air inlet charge it will get there as this was the car's first tuning on the Super Flow dyno. And just a note with anymore timing the engine started to pre-ignite, so we are looking strongly at water injection.
Wish we had room for a intercooler.
Kevin
C.A.R.


thanks Kevin. There are a lot of factors going on here, and it will make more power if Mike decides to make some changes.

Jody

kp.touring 08-14-2007 09:22 PM

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Thanks Jody! We have been looking at all options and I thank you for your helpful input.
Kevin

Steve1968LS2 08-14-2007 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mazspeed
Hey Rich, thanks for the words, but I can no longer afford this car in the way it's going. It's going to cost a lot more money and time to fix and I just don't have it in me to continue. I just spent 15k for a rehab facility for my sister yesterday for her alcohol and drug problems, work is a little slow this summer with the housing market the way it is, and I just cannot continue to move foward with this nightmare any longer. CAR is going to want to charge me god knows what to fix this for something that should have been thought about before we went forward with this. I don't think the car is going to be reliable when it's done if it's ever done. And I don't think Ill ever get a chance to enjoy the car this year, I think it's just time to cut my losses. I don't know what else to do.

Hey! If I'm not allowed to give up after my project is wrecked right after getting on the road then you're not allowed to give up either!!!

Just take a deep breath and work it out, you have a lot of people here that want to help and I'm sure CAR will stand by their work.

It's easy to give up, but far more rewarding to push through till the end. :yes:

mazspeed 08-14-2007 10:00 PM

Hey Guys. I went down to CAR today and had a long but productive conversation with Tom today. It's not a they don't know or don't care thing, but a frustrating time consuming, money dropping situation for me. I have had problem after problem with this car from the get go. This car has had a lot of problems due to changes we made and other issues that have come up. I'm mad and upset at a few things and none of those are Kevin or Tom's fault. It's just hard watching the car take one step forward and two steps back. I was really hoping to enjoy the car at length this year and that's not going to happen, and it's hard to digest the amount of money that I have put into this car, and it still remains a paperweight. I counted up all my receipts today and I have 204k and it can't get out of it's own way. There are still so many issues with this thing that I do just want to cut bait and run and take my losses and move on. I spoke to my wife about it, I spoke to Steve Brosco about it and others today and tonight about what I want to do. Everyone has said that I should take a few steps back and just have the car fixed and keep it, as I would kick myself if I sold it. Thing is, I just don't care anymore, and after looking at it today knowing the problems it has, I would not feel bad if I sold it. Right now I hate this car. I hate the fact that I have to spend money I don't have to make it right, and to be honest I don't think it will ever be right. I take a hard turn it stalls, I stop fast it stalls. The clutch needs Godzilla to depress, the driver side rear wheel is bent, there are water leaks, fuel leaks, it just isn't what I had in mind when I first got started with the second rebuild of this car. I don't wish to rant about this or that, but I’m honestly having difficult sleeping, and it's effecting me in all fascists of life right now. I cannot get my mind off the fact that no matter what is done to the car, it's not going to be right. I just cannot deal with this car.

mazspeed 08-14-2007 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 68protouring454
goodluck mike, i would get jodys help, your not getting much anywhere else.

Well Jake I am getting help, it's just not what I had in mind. This project is just beyond everyone at this point.

Steve1968LS2 08-14-2007 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mazspeed
Hey Guys. I went down to CAR today and had a long but productive conversation with Tom today. It's not a they don't know or don't care thing, but a frustrating time consuming, money dropping situation for me. I have had problem after problem with this car from the get go. This car has had a lot of problems due to changes we made and other issues that have come up. I'm mad and upset at a few things and none of those are Kevin or Tom's fault. It's just hard watching the car take one step forward and two steps back. I was really hoping to enjoy the car at length this year and that's not going to happen, and it's hard to digest the amount of money that I have put into this car, and it still remains a paperweight. I counted up all my receipts today and I have 204k and it can't get out of it's own way. There are still so many issues with this thing that I do just want to cut bait and run and take my losses and move on. I spoke to my wife about it, I spoke to Steve Brosco about it and others today and tonight about what I want to do. Everyone has said that I should take a few steps back and just have the car fixed and keep it, as I would kick myself if I sold it. Thing is, I just don't care anymore, and after looking at it today knowing the problems it has, I would not feel bad if I sold it. Right now I hate this car. I hate the fact that I have to spend money I don't have to make it right, and to be honest I don't think it will ever be right. I take a hard turn it stalls, I stop fast it stalls. The clutch needs Godzilla to depress, it just isn't what I had in mind when I first got started with the second rebuild of this car. I don't wish to rant about this or that, but I’m honestly having difficult sleeping, and it's effecting me in all fascists of life right now. I cannot get my mind off the fact that no matter what is done to the car, it's not going to be right. I just cannot deal with this car.

Well, you forgot one option.. and while it's drastic it sure beats selling it.

Sell the supercharger and spend that cash to just put a good old reliable and easy to tune carb and intake on it.. The money made on the blower sale should more than cover the parts and install of a carb.

It's not as sexy, but the car will still be a blast to drive. I would HATE to see you sell her, I have plans to terrorize shows with you.. someday... hey, you still might have yours on the road before mine ;)

Hang in there.. one way or another it will work out. If it was easy everyone would have a hot rod.

mazspeed 08-14-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
Hey! If I'm not allowed to give up after my project is wrecked right after getting on the road then you're not allowed to give up either!!!

Just take a deep breath and work it out, you have a lot of people here that want to help and I'm sure CAR will stand by their work.

It's easy to give up, but far more rewarding to push through till the end. :yes:

I know you're right Steve, but I'm beaten. If I could get half my money back by crushing the car, Id push the button. I would not have to think twice about it.

mazspeed 08-14-2007 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
Well, you forgot one option.. and while it's drastic it sure beats selling it.

Sell the supercharger and spend that cash to just put a good old reliable and easy to tune carb and intake on it.. The money made on the blower sale should more than cover the parts and install of a carb.

It's not as sexy, but the car will still be a blast to drive. I would HATE to see you sell her, I have plans to terrorize shows with you.. someday... hey, you still might have yours on the road before mine ;)

Hang in there.. one way or another it will work out. If it was easy everyone would have a hot rod.

I would Steve, and I asked Tom at CAR if he would trade my entire setup for their small block 454 engine today, and he kinda ignored me on that, but I would do that in a heartbeat. I wanted to buy that engine orginally, but they would not sell it to me. I think they are putting it in one of their shop cars down the road.

mazspeed 08-14-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms
Just a thought. With all the offers of help. Why not accept 353 or Jody's help and see if one of them could spend a day with you at the dyno. Taking it to Campbell, to adjust tiing is crazy. I know those are great guys, but you have a few serious ProCharger experts throwing advice your way.

I bet it is a hell of a lot less money to pay 353s fuel then one hour in a shop.

Hey Frank. I know what you're saying buy I have a real problem asking for people to donate their time to fix a car they don't own and then to charge very little or nothing for their efforts. I just can't do that.


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