I talk to TJ at least once a week and I look forward to driving around Columbus lost with them this year. They are truely great guy's and there work is pretty incredible.

and i love your new inner fenders. Now i just have to figure out a way to make them work on a Second gen Camaro.

Well thats easy... Send the car to bruning for some work!

LOL - Never thought of that.

An unbeleivable gesture to say the least! Awsome :bow:

have you guys ever thought of selling some inner fenders like the ones you have made? I love you work and I own a 71 cuda and would seriously consider buying some. Oh and some mini tubs too LOL

Bruining, I don't always go back and read after I post. There was no insult meant to you or the owner. The point I was trying to make is I have grown to understand that there are different levels of quality and they usually do go hand in hand with money. I never stated you were more expensive than the next as I have no idea what you charge.

The point is you are fortunate to have customers that allow you to perform such quality work on their car. The reality is there are tons of shop's on this board that will admit or not that they have pulled the trigger on a mig welder and who knows what the opposite side looks like? I agree 100% in doing the job to quality standards but there are guys on different budgets that want a nice job at the best quality that can buy. I do metal work and have the english wheel, power hammer, tig etc, etc but there is no way I am going to install a panel for the same price using either process. Guys plug weld spot welds where a pressure weld will blow it away but that doesn't mean the other is junk?

I am just not into bashing someone unless I know the entire story which I don't know here. That is why I think if someone is going to post a criticism thread they should post all the details. I agree the repairs look crappy and your work is what I would like to see. But again you don't want a 100 guys knocking on your door thinking they are getting that for $5000.00.

Again no insult meant and I enjoy your posts as I believe nobody is beyond learning something. The car looks incredible and glad it turned into the project that the owner always dreamed of. Nothing worse than getting 50% done and realizing you are in trouble.

you have got to incorporate this piece into the final build somehow, or better yet put it on a plaque to display at car shows:D

The car is in great hands now! Keep up the good work!

What if they could of done what the first shop did for $5k , or slightly more. Look at the fustration that this has caused. Well worth spending a few more bucks and getting quality work done right the first time. What you also have to put into the equation is that Tim has been at this a very long time. Work at one of the best restoration shops in the Pacific NW. What might take someone days to figure out and start tackling the job. He can get done in hours. Experience is a big factor in time savings which cut down the labor costs.

Damn I thought that was a single rolled panel in the earlier pics!!!! Nice work.

Where's the love!?! :lol:

These would be difficult to mass produce since the front end of Ned's car has a lot of "history" to say the least. From a cost perspective, you would be better off keeping the stock shape (upper radius/shock tower area) and replacing the flat section with a recessed panel.

Thanks for the reply Brian, and I fully agree with you on most of your points. My intention here wasn't to make this a criticism thread or a tig vs. mig thread. As I said before, each machine has its place - hence the reason we use both.

That said, there are so many crappy repairs done on this car that even the best body man couldn't hide... far beyond the mig vs tig debate. I try not to criticize work performed by other shops, but this is a special case. Ned would have been better off if no work was performed, but the shop ran off with his money. At least he wouldn't have had to pay for the time required to cut out and remove what was done, etc.

Oh, and I will keep waiting by the phone for those $5k phone calls... :lol: