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Karl Buchka 10-16-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by krptonite (Post 441240)
any progress?? also, are there any aftermarket harnesses for that v8? or would it be easy to make it run with original harness? i would love this motor in a p1800!

Damn, I could have sworn I was keeping this updated. Sorry guys! :_paranoid

In terms of aftermarket for this engine, there might be cold air intakes and catback exhausts out there. That's it. There is nothing else. We're probably going to salvage the connectors from the harness and make everything else from scratch. The aftermarket ECU connectors are different anyway, so the stock harness is really of limited use.

There has actually been some progress. My brother and I have spent most of the last couple of summers renovating a workshop with our dad. We put in all the labor in exchange for keeping the car in the shop once the reno was finished.

The previous owner was a carpenter and he had very little in the way of dust collection equipment. This, coupled with a raised wooden floor, water creeping in under the roll-up door, and some dubious cleaning practices over the years resulted in hundreds of pounds of putrid sawdust on the floor and an equal amount of sawdust covering every horizontal surface in the entire shop.

The shop is about 1000sqf with a mezzanine and a small office. A small half bath is tucked into the corner of the ground level:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a...8-IMG_7411.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S...2-IMG_7397.jpg

We started by tearing out the raised floor to uncover the concrete and let it dry out properly

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...0/IMG_1193.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-X...0/IMG_1200.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...0/IMG_1207.JPG

Painted the walls:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-d...0/PICT1517.JPG

Installed studs under the beams supporting the mezzanine:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...0/IMG_1210.JPG

Built a small closet under the stairs to house the compressor:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-j...0/IMG_1217.JPG

Drywall:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c...0/IMG_1224.JPG

All new wiring pulled through EMT with 220v outlets for hooking up welders:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C...0/PICT1522.JPG

Replaced all the outdated T12 fixtures with T8's and electronic ballasts. They're a little more expensive than magnetic ballasts but they raise the efficiency of the bulbs and don't have any annoying hum. All in all, ended up being about 4kw of lighting, it's really bright in there now and it's awesome.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8...0/PICT1589.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K...0/PICT1585.JPG

Got a used, dealer trade-in two post lift:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-O...0/PICT1575.JPG

Swapped a set of wheels for a lot of industrial shelving. The mezzanine is now geared for parts and junk storage:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-j...0/PICT1545.JPG

Karl Buchka 10-16-2012 08:05 AM

Ground the floor and laid down epoxy coat. Thought about spreading those flake things to pretty it up but if you drop a small bolt or washer on there it becomes impossible to find:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S...hoto%25203.JPG

Ran copper pipe for compressed air outlets around the shop, along with a 50ft hose reel mounted on the lift.

Completely gutted the bathroom and installed hex mosaic tile flooring, recessed lights, new fixtures, and a utility sink.

We picked up a Miller Syncrowave 250 TIG at the start of this summer.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...hoto%25201.JPG

Moved in some workbenches that I put steel tops on, along with some storage cabinets.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8...s800/photo.JPG

There's always tons of fiddly stuff to take care of but all in all, I'd say the shop is nearing completion. Before we dragged the 242 over from hibernation, my brother put together a makeshift chassis table for it. Building one out of steel was outside the budget so it ended up being 2x6 framing with 3/4" poplar ply on both sides, standing on 4x4 legs with adjustable feet. Final size is 4'x10' so it covers the wheelbase of the car with some room to spare on both ends. It's not perfectly flat by any stretch, but much better than the old concrete floor, and it gets the car off the ground for a more comfortable working height.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s...hoto%25202.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-m...hoto%25203.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e...hoto%25204.JPG

The car was dusted off and loaded up.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...0/IMG_0108.JPG

Raised up on the table at ride height.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...0/IMG_0111.JPG

The old wheel wells were made with smaller wheels in mind so we had to hack the rear frame rails out completely. Got one of the rear wheels jammed up in there to get an idea of how the car will sit. It was a real motivation booster to see the wheel in there, and it finally dawned on me how dumped the car is really going to be, but still with usable suspension travel.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q...255B1%255D.JPG

Hacked the trans tunnel out and got the driveline temporarily mocked up to see where it should go. Because of the V8 having some extra crap hanging off the back the firewall will need to be moved back just a smidge more than it already is. The parts have all been measured and positioned in CAD.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C...0/IMG_0132.JPG

Pulled the intake manifold off the engine. The intake ports look pretty good, but the tight packaging of the engine leaves a little to be desired on the exhaust side.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...hoto%25202.JPG

Scored some good stuff on ebay too. Got a Nascar reverse mount starter, a ring gear for that, and a hydraulic release bearing. The ring gear is known as reverse mount style and bolts to the top of the Tilton 7.25" clutch cover. Since the clutch and starter package is so small the bellhousing can be brought down in diameter quite a bit. The bellhousing and other driveline parts are nearing finished design in CAD.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...255B1%255D.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m...255B1%255D.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w...0/IMG_0148.JPG

Karl Buchka 10-16-2012 08:06 AM

Put in some time on the clutch/flywheel assembly as well:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s...screenshot.PNG

Unfortunately I wasn't around to snap any pics of the turning operations, but the basic procedure was the following: Rough cut a circle out of 20mm plate with the oxy/acetylene torch, weld a scrap slug to the center of the plate for the chuck jaws to grab, then turn the front and the back profiles.

After the turning and drilling the bolt patterns, he milled recess slots for the clutch cover bolts:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G...0/IMG_0182.JPG

Adding some chamfers:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0...0/IMG_0183.JPG

Final weight:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7...0/IMG_0184.JPG

The reverse mount ring gear we're using is intended for a newer 7.25" cover than what we have, so the cover needed a small amount of material removed from the OD.

Alex started by mounting the cover on the flywheel and clamping the flywheel in the soft jaws:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...0/IMG_0234.JPG

Checking for runout:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4...0/IMG_0235.JPG

Turning down the OD:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s...0/IMG_0239.JPG

Fits like a glove now. You can just barely glimpse them, but there are small alignment tabs on the bottom of the ring gear that keep it concentric with the clutch cover.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u...0/IMG_0242.JPG

Next up: trigger wheel. It's going to be a 60-2 mounted on the starter ring gear

Found a perfect steel pipe on the material rack. Unfortunately it was pushing the limits of what fit in the horizontal band saw, so we had to get a little creative.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...0/IMG_0245.JPG

Almost through. We didn't trust the clamp completely, so we kept the feed low. I think it took about 15 minutes to make this one cut.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c...0/IMG_0246.JPG

This is the part after the first setup:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K...0/IMG_0250.JPG

Re-setting the soft jaws:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...0/IMG_0252.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1...0/IMG_0253.JPG

This is as far as Alex got last night. The clock struck midnight and the lathe turned back in to a pumpkin. The trigger teeth are getting cut out of that standing ring section and the other ring with the tapered step will get reduced to a few mounting ears that will bolt to the starter ring gear. Projected weight of the trigger wheel is about 150 grams.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U...0/IMG_0255.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e...0/IMG_0256.JPG

krptonite 10-16-2012 02:28 PM

nice job on the shop guys!! bet that sawdust smelled ripe! good to see its moving along again:thumbsup:

WSSix 10-16-2012 06:40 PM

New shop looks great!

JayR 10-16-2012 09:21 PM

Pretty funny looking back at your first post with you saying this isn't a pro-build. The scope and tech of this car eclipses many if not most pro-builds and you guys are an inspiration to everyone who has ever turned a wrench at home in the name of performance. My new favorite Project thread.

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Karl Buchka 10-18-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by krptonite (Post 441361)
nice job on the shop guys!! bet that sawdust smelled ripe! good to see its moving along again:thumbsup:

Thanks! Yeah, that sawdust was absolutely disgusting. The concrete was so slick and slimy that I almost broke my ass more than once. :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 441385)
New shop looks great!

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR (Post 441414)
Pretty funny looking back at your first post with you saying this isn't a pro-build. The scope and tech of this car eclipses many if not most pro-builds and you guys are an inspiration to everyone who has ever turned a wrench at home in the name of performance. My new favorite Project thread.

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I'm not sure what to say. Thank you! That really means a lot. We're doing the best with what we have and trying to have fun doing it. I'm glad other people are enjoying it as well! We'll try not to let anyone down. :cheers:

On to the evening's update!

Ran the (soon to be) trigger wheel through the CNC to carve out the mounting feet:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F...2000.21.55.jpg

Hopefully the final result is becoming clearer. The trigger teeth will get cut out of the remaining solid ring. The step on the feet centers on the ID of the starter ring gear.

Weight so far (300 grams, ~10.5oz):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z...2000.21.42.jpg

muggz 10-19-2012 06:46 AM

Love it! awesome workshop and intense machine work! :thumbsup:

Karl Buchka 10-19-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by muggz (Post 441835)
Love it! awesome workshop and intense machine work! :thumbsup:

Thanks!

Got some more work on the trigger wheel today.

Hoisted the dividing head off the shelf and set to cutting the trigger pattern in the manual mill.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f...0/IMG_0264.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z...0/IMG_0263.JPG

Unfortunately, the above picture is about as far as we got before things went pear shaped. We fought a few different issues for a while, and when we finally made it to the last slot, it became apparent that the teeth were not evenly divided. I think the trigger wheel had been slipping imperceptibly, so by the time we got to the end, it was too late. Definitely a drag, but such is life. Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the technology. Better than it was before. Better...stronger...faster.

krptonite 10-20-2012 07:37 AM

wow that sucks after all that machining! i think you underestimate yourselves in what you are acheiving here, this build goes way beyond what most guys are capable of including some "pro" shops,! all credit to you and keep up the good work , you are a great inspiration to us all when we are having a downer over whatever issue we have in our builds!:thumbsup:


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