If you want to get into safety, I totally agree. It should at least have a roll bar. That is why I have a cage. This is the fine line we are at. I don't have the answer you guys are looking for. Safety is very important and I don't want to see something bad happen out there at these really cool events.

As far as wipers go, that is a must and should be part of the tech inspection if it is not already.

I don't think anyone is attacking your car. Your car is bad ass. I took tons of pictures of it. I also saw you driving it out of SEMA in the rain.
I think there needs to be some rules/guide lines/classes moving forward. It will make the event better and continue its growth in the future.

Thanks for the props on my car. I guess it is hard not to take it as an attack as I had one of the few cars with no door glass. I understand where some people are coming from. That is why I am looking into adding power windows, a stereo, and a cup holder over the winter. It won't hurt my performance.:D

Standings in all the events
 

Overall OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car

1st – Danny Popp, 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06

2nd – Mark Stielow, 1969 Camaro

Raybestos Performance Design Competition

1st – Phil Gerber, 1967 Chevy Nova

2nd – Curt Ukasic, 1962 Nova Runt

BFGoodrich Hot Lap Challenge

1st – Danny Popp, 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (Fastest time 01:42.208)

2nd – Pete Callaway, 2008 Callaway Corvette SC652 (Fastest time 01:44.749)

Ridetech Street Challenge Autocross Competition

1st – Danny Popp, 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (Fastest time 00:38.251)

2nd – Mary Pozzi, 1973 Chevrolet Camaro RS (Fastest time 00:39.414)

Wilwood Disc Brakes Speed Stop Challenge

1st – Gary Rubio, 2009 Nissan GTR (Fastest time 00:06.541)

2nd – Mark Stielow, 1969 Camaro (Fastest time 00:07.096)

I love the build, and wouldn't change a thing. I've been saying I was going to put door glass in mine since I built it, its yet to happen. There is always going to be somebody crying about something.

Look, there is always going to be someone with deeper pockets, or better access to parts or technoligy. All we can do is build what WE like, and enjoy beating on it, the rest is just noise. Ron

Brian

I love your car. I followed the whole build and it looked and worked great in real life. The stance is killer and it has a very serious look to it.

BTW where did you finish over all? I have not seen any overall results yet.

Stielow

Ron,

I did build it the way I like it and thank you! It is now at the point I question if I should go to any of these events as the crying is taking all the fun out of it.

Brian

Ill still be there cheering you on!


I demand to have a shot at you at some point in the future, and not on slicks!

Mark,

I finished 3rd. I would love to see the point breakdown. I think I had 67 points to your 80. I am disappointed with myself on the brake challenge and a bit on the autocross. To be where you were last year on the road course (148.879) being my first time on that track and only the 4th time ever on a road course made me feel good. The judges seem to like my car and that really made the hard work of my Dad, Maier Racing, and my shop Car West Elite feel very proud.

You did a great job and I think your car is the best all around Camaro ever built. You have set the standard we all look up to.

Brian

I have been involved in these philosophical discussions before and came to the conclusion that you can't please all of the people all of the time. I admit I did not follow Brian's build thread but will probably go back and look at it when I can find some time. I think the execution was excellent. The flares, stance, and the paint to name a few.

Mark's Camaro is the benchmark in my opinion. It can rip your throat out as well as idle through rush hour without incident. (not that you would want to, but sometimes it just happens) I dream of being in a position to own one of his cars someday. Charley can't buy em all forever. :lol:

For these two guys to be that close to Danny in the C6 speaks volumes for the cars, preparation and their drivers.

Bottom line is I enjoy participating at these events when I can seeing how I measure up to these guys (and girl Mary). The rules will be what accomplishes the organizer's goals, but "run whatcha brung" (within reason) is what makes these things cool. They don't have to make a wagon class for Parkhurst, he gets satisfaction from beating smaller, lighter cars that, on paper, should be faster.

You can't please everybody. Don't mess with a good thing.