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DBasher 02-03-2016 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustomatic (Post 629040)
Let's take a minute to blame unreasonably optimistic expectations and the need for artificial deadlines on reality TV. These elements added to a hobby will frequently ruin the value--don't let it happen. Just chill. Be the boss.

Paul, you shut your dirty whore mouth! This dog's still got a fight and 20 days until he needs to be heading south. Minus sleep and work that's around 40 days worth of hours....PLENTY of time! :action-smiley-027: Shoot, you could probably get the falcon done by then! :secret:


To be clear. I don't really think Paul has a dirty whore mouth. If the truck doesn't make it, it isn't because he gave up...a few days to let things marinate and he'll be right back at it. If it's a simple parts swap or exchange it'll get done, if it's broken....well there's always another event.
:cheers:

hackster 02-04-2016 10:42 AM

I dont have much hope for making it. The time that I am spending troubleshooting this issue is taking away from getting all the other crap I need to done, like breaks and bearings on my trailer, troubleshooting the short in the trailer breaks.

Driveline vibration needs to be dealt with as well...its bad.

Also need to get some better pads on the old girl all around and go make some panic stops and make sure they will stop but have yet to research and order pads.

I have not gotten a room reserved yet either, but have paid for my entry fee already.

I get a little noise from cylinder 4 area but its not the same noise that I get when its under load.

As terrible as this sounds, I think I am going to get the hood back off of it and have someone else drive it and have me ride around on the frontend and see if I can isolate where the noise is coming from.

If the wife sees that or I get hurt, Ill be in a world of trouble.

I have some dyno time next saturday if I can make it until then.

Sean

rustomatic 02-04-2016 12:07 PM

Gosh, Dan, don't go to bed angry!:twak:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 629082)
Paul, you shut your dirty whore mouth! This dog's still got a fight and 20 days until he needs to be heading south. Minus sleep and work that's around 40 days worth of hours....PLENTY of time! :action-smiley-027: Shoot, you could probably get the falcon done by then! :secret:


To be clear. I don't really think Paul has a dirty whore mouth. If the truck doesn't make it, it isn't because he gave up...a few days to let things marinate and he'll be right back at it. If it's a simple parts swap or exchange it'll get done, if it's broken....well there's always another event.
:cheers:


DBasher 02-04-2016 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustomatic (Post 629133)
Gosh, Dan, don't go to bed angry!:twak:

Oh no, never. It's the waking up that makes me angry...mostly because I'm sleeping on an air mattress in my kids room....first world problems.

Glad to hear you're making the trip to T-Hill, have you figured out what we're doing for lunches?

rustomatic 02-04-2016 09:50 PM

Lunch at Thunderhill without Greg's apartment on wheels (and barbecuing skills) will be a real challenge. Maybe this is where Sean's true talent will reveal itself.

Sean, no truck/racing vehicle is needed. Just bring lighter fluid. I'll bring a Camelback.:idea:

GTWayne 02-05-2016 01:38 PM

Pads
 
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Originally Posted by hackster (Post 629127)
I dont have much hope for making it. The time that I am spending troubleshooting this issue is taking away from getting all the other crap I need to done, like breaks and bearings on my trailer, troubleshooting the short in the trailer breaks.

Driveline vibration needs to be dealt with as well...its bad.

Also need to get some better pads on the old girl all around and go make some panic stops and make sure they will stop but have yet to research and order pads.

I have not gotten a room reserved yet either, but have paid for my entry fee already.

I get a little noise from cylinder 4 area but its not the same noise that I get when its under load.

As terrible as this sounds, I think I am going to get the hood back off of it and have someone else drive it and have me ride around on the frontend and see if I can isolate where the noise is coming from.

If the wife sees that or I get hurt, Ill be in a world of trouble.

I have some dyno time next saturday if I can make it until then.

Sean

I still have a set of front calipers off of a Chump car that would bounce your Eyeballs off the wind shield (PM Dan if you dont believe me)
As far a s the vibration goes it may be an orientation issue. Try rolling it 90 degrees at the rear end. I saw that you had a carrier bearing in it so you may have an issue there. not sure if it is splined or bolted. My old 69 C10 was splined till I lowered the truck. Without listening to it I would not even want to guess what the tapping is. Hopefuly I get a chance to see it run at T hill.

hackster 02-07-2016 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTWayne (Post 629243)
I still have a set of front calipers off of a Chump car that would bounce your Eyeballs off the wind shield (PM Dan if you dont believe me)
As far a s the vibration goes it may be an orientation issue. Try rolling it 90 degrees at the rear end. I saw that you had a carrier bearing in it so you may have an issue there. not sure if it is splined or bolted. My old 69 C10 was splined till I lowered the truck. Without listening to it I would not even want to guess what the tapping is. Hopefuly I get a chance to see it run at T hill.

Hey Wayne, I got your PM a little while back. I am sure that the driveline needs more adjustment and tinkering with but the clatter is my main focus right now.

I am curious if you happen to know any more about the pads that you guys were running on the chump car? I am looking to get some more agressive pads installed before i get it out on the track.

I could type up an entire book about my troubleshooting process but here is the highlights.

I found a really hefty exhaust leak mid week so I pulled the exhaust apart and cleaned things up and put some copper RTV on the header flange to the small downpipe and reinstalled. Sounds exactly the same.

Had a friend come over Friday night with a Snap On Chassis ear....that was where the bad news started.

Its either bottom end noise, clutch or transmission.

We picked up a lot of noise on the side of the engine but even more noise on the bellhousing. So not 100% sure if the bottom end is shot or the clutch/tans is shot but something is wrong, broken,damaged for sure.

I started to pull it apart friday night and realized I had over looked something while building the truck......I cannot pull the trans out the bottom of the truck.:-roll

But I was able to get the transmission moved back far enough to pull the pressure plate and look at the clutch.

Here is where we get more questions than answers. The clutch is like brand new. Ford part with a manufacture date of 01/21/15, I had the car in what september and I bet the clutch took a couple of months to get shipped and installed so it might be four or five months in the car.

However the springs are really beat up and two of them are pretty loose in the cage, I can rotate the springs quite easily in the cage and two of them get looser and tighter in the cage. The center hub has a good tick tick tick to it as well when you rotate it in the clutch. When we were pulling out the driveline you could hear the clutch rattling as we were rotating the driveline back and forth

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...pskz7ig9xo.jpg

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...psqqhwrh2v.jpg

On the spring hub clutch you can see where the sprung hub portion has rotated all the way to one side and hit the stops.

All tore up....:-huh

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...pspze6ff0b.jpg

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...psr3pxqdta.jpg

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...psinxydnrk.jpg

I randomly talked with a guy in Seattle yesterday who races in a spec mustang class. He seemed to know these things better than most. I explained my issues, little bit of end play in the input shaft, rattle on bottom end and stuff and he said replace the clutch. DO NOT PUT A FORD CLUTCH in it though. He said on their spec cars they have to run the Ford clutch and can barely get a race weekend out of one clutch. He said get ahold of ACT and order their setup for it and be done with it. Then put it all back together and see what happens.

So as of right now that is my plan. Order a clutch on Monday and get it here as fast as possible and see what happens.

Oh, my Dakota Digital OBD adapter died also, so I have a new one of those coming Tuesday as well.

Totally running out of steam on this thing. If its bottom end, not too sure what I am going to do.

Here is crossing my fingers to this fixing it...

Sean

DBasher 02-08-2016 04:09 PM

Where's MattA? Anyone know if his mustang has any miles on it?

hackster 02-08-2016 05:13 PM

Spent the weekend doing chores around the house, organizing some stuff and recycling a ton of stuff. Even did a couple of house projects....I know what???

In cleaning up I decided I finally needed to get rid of this stuff and build the seat I have wanted since we pulled the seat from the truck, it is in immaculate condition.

Here is the Grille Narrowed up 8" to match the width of the bench.

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7ikbxvzm.jpg

Got the frame all built for the seat and getting the fit better on the height of the seat as a sofa and the fronted fit up where it needs to go.

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...psuxi8ilbe.jpg

Here is the somewhat finished product. I need to make a top cap for the frontend, I dont like how unfinished it is and I still need to find a couple of bezels for it. Anyone have a couple they want to get rid of, white and beat up is totally cool with me.

I raised the grille up off the floor a fair bit. Bench might be a little bit tall for some but its about perfect for me.

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...psxfafrcto.jpg

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...psgl0einih.jpg

Armrests turned out cool for just some flat stock welded up and capped the 1" square tube.

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0dkkonj9.jpg

If I had more room I would just keep it in the shop. Its going to our new office we are moving into at the end of next month.

I am going to clear the entire thing and see how many bad looks I get at the shop =)

glassman 02-08-2016 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackster (Post 629127)

As terrible as this sounds, I think I am going to get the hood back off of it and have someone else drive it and have me ride around on the frontend and see if I can isolate where the noise is coming from.


Sean

Pics of that LOL, just be careful and no freeway runs...

Btw, i'm not sure if the event is sold out yet or not, i'm not getting my ticket untill my harness is done and trouble free, so, i may hit u up last minute to purchase yours. Just throwing that out there, not even sure if there transferable....


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