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tones2SS 07-18-2010 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 296858)
What.... you don't like holding a 180* chunk of billet!! :rofl:

lolllll....:rofl:
Very nice Rodger. Looking really good.:thumbsup:

coolwelder62 07-18-2010 07:50 AM

Rodger; I am sorry for some how missing this build.WOW!!! This this is KILLER!!.I love your work, but man this is some of your best stuff.This is going to be one of the cooler builds here.Race cars that work like street cars are all it . There needs to be a site for cars like this.(Builds with an attitude).keep up the great wrok.Scott.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

ironworks 07-18-2010 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 296886)
Rodger; I am sorry for some how missing this build.WOW!!! This this is KILLER!!.I love your work, but man this is some of your best stuff.This is going to be one of the cooler builds here.Race cars that work like street cars are all it . There needs to be a site for cars like this.(Builds with an attitude).keep up the great wrok.Scott.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks Scott, we have just thrown great parts at it to try and make a good driving well handling car. It is has been refreshing to just use off the shelf parts. It is by no means the nicest or the most though out car we have worked on but it is just a low bling hopefully light weight fun car to not be scared to have fun in.

If you think this car is cool wait till you see our tri-5 chassis test car that we hope to have the chassis for at Pleasanton next month. We plan to use a lot of light weight drag race parts on this car to really set it off and make it even cooler. :D

Thanks for the compliments once again. We should have more to see later this week.

ironworks 07-22-2010 12:25 PM

Progess

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...uly2010173.jpg
The door got to get blaster and primered next week. It looks like we will paint it Orange and just riddle it with stickers.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...uly2010172.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...uly2010171.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...uly2010169.jpg
We had this old valance just laying around from an Old "ALMOST" forgotten project with really cool taillights and decided to give it a try to see what we like and what we don't...hhhmmmm
...... Aluminum or Carbon or Carbon with aluminum vents....

Tyler can I use a sharpie on you fancy Valance? Please

Teetoe_Jones 07-22-2010 12:32 PM

You stealing **** from my car now? Damn that's not cool man, not cool at all.

You can make it up to me by purchasing this for my 50/50 project.

Tyler

tones2SS 07-22-2010 03:43 PM

Looking awesome Rodger.:thumbsup:

coolwelder62 07-22-2010 03:50 PM

Rodger;Look's great.:thumbsup: Just make sure those door gap's are spot on.Or you will have the door gap police knocking on your door.Also it's been found though a major study that it will slow down your autocross times.They say it's the bad air moving over the large gap's and creating turbulence.I have my son Brandon put blue duct tape over my gap's once I gottin the car.I think it is helping.:lol:

ironworks 07-22-2010 04:01 PM

I'm struggling just to put it together and not over build it with too many nice things. I just want it to look crazy bad ass in somebodies rear view mirror as this car that was a little dot on the horizon just seconds ago is a fire breathing monster in the rear view mirror. If I make it to nice then I will have to much respect for it.

dodge 07-22-2010 08:10 PM

Curiosity Question for you .....

The lower edge of the dash..Will that be a smooth or a sharp edge.Is there a possibility of your knees hitting this area in a mishap?

Love the work on the car so far:thumbsup:

Cheers Joe

nvr2fst 07-22-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 297619)
I'm struggling just to put it together and not over build it with too many nice things. I just want it to look crazy bad ass in somebodies rear view mirror as this car that was a little dot on the horizon just seconds ago is a fire breathing monster in the rear view mirror. If I make it to nice then I will have to much respect for it.

You say this on every project you start:lol: Looking great! If you steal Tylers lower valance you know its not going to stop there.
I foresee a snowball coming

ironworks 08-03-2010 05:05 PM

The engine harness has been modified for mil spec connectors and we are waiting for the doors and front fenders to comeback from primer to install.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2010004.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2010003.jpg

ja.stoner63 08-03-2010 05:52 PM

That is a fine job. You make it look so darn easy.:thumbsup:

Musclerodz 08-03-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 299384)
The engine harness has been modified for mil spec connectors and we are waiting for the doors and front fenders to comeback from primer to install.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2010004.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2010003.jpg

Roger, who did the harness for you?

ironworks 08-03-2010 09:37 PM

We did the harness in house. Jason my wiring guru/ rc car mechanic does a good job.

Tom.A 08-03-2010 10:00 PM

Looks nice Roger. What size does your intake tube reduce to, 3-1/2"? I have a 4" tube with rubber couplings that is to bulky. I think I will make it smaller but I am also wondering how your MAF works. I have an insert like this type
http://speed-eng.com/store/images/SL...w%20Sensor.jpg

I am guessing your is not like that?

ironworks 08-04-2010 05:31 AM

Tom, the intake tube on mine is 3.5". Since we are running the Gm Performance Parts harness and ECU and it come with a weld on plate and a small MAF sensor. It works pretty slick, I believe it is on every Gm aftermarket harness.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2010010.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2010011.jpg

Rodger

tones2SS 08-04-2010 06:40 AM

Very, very nice!:thumbsup:

Tom.A 08-04-2010 07:37 AM

Thanks Roger, I looked up that kit (19166568) and see what you mean. It eliminates the whole honeycomb thing which is nice for fabbing a tube.

ironworks 08-04-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tom_a (Post 299482)
Thanks Roger, I looked up that kit (19166568) and see what you mean. It eliminates the whole honeycomb thing which is nice for fabbing a tube.

Yeah it is pretty slick. It shows somebody at Chevy is thinking or looking out for us custom guys.

4cefed 08-04-2010 07:48 AM

Hey Rodger where do you buy your Mil Spec stuff from? I need some bulkhead connectors like those. Thanks

ironworks 08-04-2010 07:52 AM

http://www.p-r-s.com/main.htm

I'm not sure if this is the best place but the have been good to deal with.

Jr 08-04-2010 08:36 AM

Roger,
Is the Camaro going to get a paint job or a body wrap?

ironworks 08-04-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DJW32 (Post 299495)
Roger,
Is the Camaro going to get a paint job or a body wrap?

I'm thinking a Cheap orange paint job to paint the roof and jambs and seal the primer. The put big stickers or a wrap in other sections just not a full wrap. I love the carbon stripe on the door. But I'm not having carbon doors made. Trying to get it together quickly and if it does not make it stop fast or go fast. And my OCD will let it pass. Just trying to put it together and make it easy to work on and service.

I'm worried if I make it to nice I won't have as much fun with it.

XLexusTech 08-04-2010 09:13 AM

Where Have I seen that cow catcher before?

ironworks 08-04-2010 04:15 PM

It belongs to an old Fairy tale of a car that might get finished some day.

ironworks 08-12-2010 04:50 PM

Update
 
Well guys we have been hammer down trying to get this car set up to do a track day next Friday. We have had some major obstacles lately. That have really slowed us down. First the transmission, I bought a used T56 from a fellow member here on the sight and found out this week it is a Tranzilla. Sweet deal right. Well After days of not being able to find anyone who believe that I had a 32 spline out put shaft in a T56. I finally figured out the 1800 T56 I got was a 32 spline Transzilla. So it does exist. I was told I was measuring wrong, I needed to count again, they had never heard of a 32 spline output shaft. See my problem was not the 32 spline but the bigger output shaft which would not fit into the tailshaft housing at all, unless we spun the slip yoke down to less then .090 wall thickness. Not my idea of a "Good idea".

So after about 1.5 hours at the auto parts mega warehouse with a sales guy that has not even just one clue. What Year car sir, 1967.... Camaro..... Does it have 350? no it has an LS7.... Don't worry about that. Finally I look up the application for a 32 spline yoke and it was from a TH400. So they go get me a few tailshaft bushing and seal kits and finally score the 1.890 which will fit my 1.885. Bingo. Oh great they are out of stock and its 5pm. So 2 days later this monster 1 BILLION sq ft ware house that should have everything, finally gets my seal kit. I take the tailshaft housing to my good buddy to bore the opening to the bushing, but wouldn't you know he just got a V12 engine set up on his machine and he would have to make the tooling to bore this small of a hole. The V12 is a CAT V12 that powers a drilling rig. So My great buddy blazes through that job and then is able to bore the tailshaft housing to size. We get it back and fight to reinstall the tailshaft housing back on the trans still in the car.

We last week when all this mess started my lead wring and mechanical guy goes into the hospital with bad respiratory problems. Well he might come back tommorrow. He got half way through the harness milspec connectors and WHAMOO he is SICk.

So at this point I have 8 days to be ready for Buttonwillow and getting any kind of crappy orange paint on the car is longshot. I really don't want to do a complete wrap. So we will have to see how things turn out.

The front sheetmetal is on. Most all the plumbing is back from XRP to plumb the fuel and dry sump system. 8 days to go til track day #1.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2010021.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2010020.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2010023.jpg

Vegas69 08-12-2010 05:00 PM

Don't you just love that crap. It's the little stuff that takes all the time. I just noticed that mammoth front wheel lip. Does that have any chance of clearing the inner fender? :unibrow:

ironworks 08-12-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 300880)
Don't you just love that crap. It's the little stuff that takes all the time. I just noticed that mammoth front wheel lip. Does that have any chance of clearing the inner fender? :unibrow:

Well we just got done doing alot of work to some inner fenders for the Donkey Kong car to have some Carbon units made. They will use these for molds for the Carbon Inners. So hopefully they will clear. But those are a few months away. I was just going to run them with out for now.



http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2010001.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ust2010002.jpg

coolwelder62 08-12-2010 06:32 PM

Rodger the project is lookin good.Is that camaro in the back ground green or is it covered in mold.:lol:

tones2SS 08-13-2010 08:32 AM

Very nice Rodger.
Love the front wheel lip! Looks killer.:bow: :cheers:

preston 08-13-2010 03:21 PM

I know you guys are the pros - but......

I could never understand thrashing on a car to hit the open track. Its not like a race where its the most important thing in the world and the center of your existence. Thrashing to get a car ready for show is one thing, but going out to go 150 mph in a just put together car is dangerous. Every car needs some shakedown. I don't know - I maintain and build my car religously and I still find things that scare me - stuff working loose or interfering, new leaks.

I guess I just wouldn't be pushing your luck to get on track. Get the car ready and then go. There is no shortage of events in your area.

ironworks 08-13-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by preston (Post 301023)
I know you guys are the pros - but......

I could never understand thrashing on a car to hit the open track. Its not like a race where its the most important thing in the world and the center of your existence. Thrashing to get a car ready for show is one thing, but going out to go 150 mph in a just put together car is dangerous. Every car needs some shakedown. I don't know - I maintain and build my car religously and I still find things that scare me - stuff working loose or interfering, new leaks.

I guess I just wouldn't be pushing your luck to get on track. Get the car ready and then go. There is no shortage of events in your area.

I agree 100%. But Chris Alston called about 2 months ago and asked what the chances were of us finishing up the car to Run in the Super Chevy Suspension shootout on Aug 30 and 31st. Since he was a big sponsor on this project, I'm trying to do what we can. That is what we would like to be able to attend the event even though it is the day following our biggest West coast booth display that is in the Pleasonton on the 26 -29th of August. I'm not really excited about trying things out at speeds over 100mph either. And If we don't make it we don't make it. But I do not want anybody to say we did not try our best. I have never had this much trouble getting a car together that really is pretty simple. We will see how it turns out.

I always comment those Nascar and Big time race car guys, they hit the track and the car is ready for turn one. No break in or shake down. It is game on in turn one. Plus they hit their set up pretty stinkin close most every time right off the trailer.

GregWeld 08-13-2010 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by preston (Post 301023)
I know you guys are the pros - but......

I could never understand thrashing on a car to hit the open track. Its not like a race where its the most important thing in the world and the center of your existence. Thrashing to get a car ready for show is one thing, but going out to go 150 mph in a just put together car is dangerous. Every car needs some shakedown. I don't know - I maintain and build my car religously and I still find things that scare me - stuff working loose or interfering, new leaks.

I guess I just wouldn't be pushing your luck to get on track. Get the car ready and then go. There is no shortage of events in your area.

NO GUTS -- NO GLORY

Matt@BOS 08-13-2010 07:30 PM

I'm a little surprised Alston wants you to bring a car that is so fresh to a suspension shoot out. I get that it is a big event that will generate a ton of publicity, but if the springs, bars and tire package are just a little unbalanced right out of the box so-to-speak, it will definitely put them way behind on the charts. Then again maybe they just have a lot of confidence in their system.

Matt

ironworks 08-13-2010 08:51 PM

That's why we had the trackday setup for next friday at buttonwillow with a few different springs on hand. Plus we were looking at getting some help from a really smart Pozzi that day at the track. But my wiring guy has to get better and we need some luck on our hands. Or there is always another event.

96z28ss 09-24-2010 03:58 PM

How about an update?

ok I'll guess I'll make an update. Since Roger is so impressed with my iracing skills he is going to let me be the driver on this project.
Roger will be around to check tire pressure and crawl under the car to make shock adjustments.

ironworks 09-24-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 307324)
How about an update?

ok I'll guess I'll make an update. Since Roger is so impressed with my iracing skills he is going to let me be the driver on this project.
Roger will be around to check tire pressure and crawl under the car to make shock adjustments.

But we have detuned the Ls7 engine to not have more torque then the solctice.

I will have an update tomorrow, We have been driving the car a getting ready for driver training next weekend in Fernly NV.

96z28ss 09-24-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 307334)
But we have detuned the Ls7 engine to not have more torque then the solctice.

I will have an update tomorrow, We have been driving the car a getting ready for driver training next weekend in Fernly NV.

Thats fine or fab up a pedal stop.

ironworks 09-25-2010 02:53 PM

Well All I can say is this thing is a Rocket. Wow.

Next week before the Fernley Event We plan to change the rear springs and get the suspension a little more set for a base line. We need to put a small .065 spacer behind the throw out bearing to improve the clutch freeplay and raise the pedal release height.

Some more pics from yesterday for insurance purposes.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2010101.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2010102.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2010103.jpg

We also need to move the back of the fender lip opening in the front back just a tick, it rubs a smidge at full lock. Next weekend will be fun.

Jr 09-25-2010 03:07 PM

Nice update.

In the pics, the camaro looks like it sits high. Do you have any profile pics taken from the ground?


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