Marty they didn't put those subframe connectors in the car on jack stands did they????

Car is coming along real nice! Love the seat belt restraint bar...:yes:

Yep they did it on the floor. The frame was within a 1/16 of being square

When the front clip went on it required no shimming

I would put all the suspension, axle, wheels, tires etc on and set it at ride height to make sure it's not tweaked and one side of the car is higher than the other. Just my $.02 its easy to cut them loose now than later....

It's all good and everything is square. We know that since the car is ready for paint and on the ground.

The car is probably already done and Marty is driving it around. He's just trying to build up the suspense until he decides to unvail it! :willy: :willy: :D :rofl:

Nope - The body work is complete now it's time to start putting down some color.

2nd Chance Camaro - Cleaning Up the DSE Subframe Connectors

2012 06-27 Update - Cleaning Up the DSE Subframe Connectors
www.2ndchancecamaro.com


Evening All,

Okay since I am home for at least one more week and I am not allowed to drive it's time to play catch up.
I enlisted the help of my oldest to help clean up the sub-fame connectors. It's amazing how fast they
flashed over with rust. Out came the wire wheel and some serious elbow grease.

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Getting closer

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Time to get out the cheap labor. Did I mention she works for Taco's

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Looks much better.

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2nd Chance Camaro - DEI Boom Mat
2012 06-29 Update - DEI Boom Mat
www.2ndchancecamaro.com


Morning All,

I love Christmas in June even if it's Hot as Hell out. www.boommat.com

We used DEI products on Syborg www.syborgtwinturbo.com to keep the heat down under the hood
and now they offer a full product line to keep you cool on the inside.

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Don't forget to check out the full product line. http://www.designengineering.com/


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2nd Chance Camaro - A Little Primer on the DSE Tubs

2012 06-29 Update - A Little Primer on the DSE Tubs
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Morning All,

My buddy rick came over to help me clean up the mini-tubs. Seem he was the supervisor.

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I hope - if that was the first coats -- that you used SELF ETCHING primer....

But, of course - you already knew that. :unibrow:

Morning All,

My buddy rick came over to help me clean up the mini-tubs. Seem he was the supervisor.

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Its a tuff job your lucky you have a good friend to do it!

Hey Marty - Thx for the tip on the Boommat. I finally spoke to your friend and he gave me a smokin deal...:thumbsup:

Your welcome, Like I said these guys are the best.

Marty,Camaro's turnin out nice.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

2nd Chance Camaro - DSE Brake Booster Install

2012 07-02 Update - DSE Brake Booster Install
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening All,

It's very important to mock everything up before paint and final assembly. The perfect example is what happened when I installed
the Brake Booster. The angle is off even though this is the correct DSE part number for a 70 Camaro.

You can see that the hood won't close with the supplied bracket. So back on the phone with DSE to talk with Tech Support,
send some pictures and wait for a response & solution.

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A few weeks later DSE has a solution and it's simple bracket swap. I like simple, especially when your trying to build a bolt-on
Camaro.

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The new bracket part # 050302 if you need one.

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Problem Solved - Thank you DSE

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Thanks it's getting there.

2nd Chance Camaro - Wiper Motor & Firewall Modification

2012 07-03 Update - Wiper Motor & Firewall Modification
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Good Morning All,

First up order the DSE closeout panel.

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Since the plan is to actually drive this car I am certain it will be caught in the rain more then once. Quick call to the guys
at DSE and a Wiper motor is on the way.

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I remember back in the day when Mark Steilow was building the Mule and he did this modification. I knew that I would be
ordering one of these for future projects.

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Troy & the guys at BBT Fab started working their magic on the firewall. The goal is to have a very clean look once it's complete.

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2nd Chance Camaro - Fitting the LS1

2012 07-04 Update - Fitting the LS1
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Morning All,

It's time to put the actually motor in the car so the guys at High Speed Welding can finish up the edelbrock exhaust.

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The plastic blocks are sure awesome it's to bad I am not strong enough to lift the real motor.

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I purchased the LS1 from Travis at Kenny Davis Hot Rods it came out of a 98 Camaro.

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I used Edelbrock adaptors to mount the motor and you can see the F-Body oil pan clears the subframe perfectly.

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Motor is in and there is plenty of hood clearance with the stock intake manifold.

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But of course I have no intention of using the stock manifold as this motor is going to have a Carb.

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Did I mention it's made in America.

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Once again you can see I am using as many Edlebrock products as possible. Nothing say vintage race car and Americana
then Edelbrock !!!

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Looks great Marty! What's the plan for the motor, just intake or you going to change the cam and other mods? I love all the bolt on parts you are using should be a really fun car when it's done!

It looks great in there Marty it must feel good doing the final fitting.

Hi Rick,

Yep, the motor is heading to Wegner Automotive for a complete redo. Edelbrock Heads, Intake, Cam and a new Wegener Serpetine Set Up. The goal is about 425 streetable horsepower.

This one is sure going faster then the last one and yep it feels good.

Great progress !!

You headed to Columbus this weekend - or are you still grounded ?

Jim

I'm going to shoot for Saturday.

Good deal ! Gonna be hot - be ready old man. :P

Catch ya there.

Jim

2nd Chance Camaro - Ride Tech Muscle Bar

2012 07-04 Update - Ride Tech Muscle Bar
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Afternoon All,

People tend to think that they can handle a complete subframe swap. Then in the middle of the project they realize they have
either run out of money, time or skill to finish the project. As said in previous post the build of this car needs to be simple and
something that anyone can do. That is why Ride Tech is my first choice and always will be. Their product is proven and if you
can do simple remove and replace you are going to be unbelievable happy with all of the products offered by them.

Time to install the Ride Tech Muscle bar.

30 minutes later the bar is installed.

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If your goal is to build you car in your garage or your driveway and not make it yard art then step up to Ride-Tech !!!!

I asked Stacey about this at the Turkey run in Daytona, she looked at me like I had 2 heads, told me I was wrong, I told her that I had 2 people tell me it wont fit, and my own car, she didnt want to talk to me anymore after that, and I've known her since they were small and located in MI,

Great build, love the racks for the bikes, and the kids in on the build,

Hi Steve,

I like DSE products just not their customer support. The few times that I have had to call with questions/concerns it's met with resistance. The brake booster was a perfect example I had to show them the hood wouldn't close before they believed me.

Right before I started this build I tried to talk with DSE at GG Columbus and GG Indy about buying there subframe and both times I was blown off. It's to bad as there subframe was the most beautiful one on the market at that time.

Now that the Speed Tech, Art Morrison and the Roadster Shop is making a subframe and the Roadster Shop full frame for 2nd gen Camaro's it's going to be hard for me not to consider there stuff for my next project.

I know the feling,

I try not to buy DSE parts, but, I have there stuff for my car,

I have a Scott Mock sub for my car, I'm kinda of over the high end
"leg humping" of all the big builders/parts suppliers get from people,

I've tried to talk to Kyle before, ignored me and walked right by, great way to get people to buy your product,

I got another great story but it cant be discussed on these fourms, involves a high doller Chevelle build and a well named driver,

and that is why I buy as much as I can from the guys at Ride-Tech. Pick up the phone got a question and they stop what they are doing to help you. Heck I even stripped the threads on a bracket and I called them at 3pm and they packed and shipped it out to me the same day.

That is customer service.

FYI - I am in no way trying to dis DSE just stating they need to work on there customer service and when a potential customer with $20,000 in cash walks up to you at a show and tells you they want to buy your product don't blow them off twice in the matter of 10 minutes.

I'm with ya, I like there stuff and there ideas, but I'm likeing the other guys, I'm going to buy ride tech shocks when my cars ready for them,

and it's all about customer service, and I have gotten some good CS from them too,

Love the build! Especially the involvement of family! My very first car, bought as a shell and pieced back together during high school was a second gen (30 years ago).

Hydroboost seems all the rage for brakes but you're using a conventional booster?


Jeff-

Thank you for the compliments on the build.

Why not Hydroboost - not needed in this application. Most people use Hydroboost when there is a space problem or a vacumn problem and this car doesn't have either issue.

I used them on Syclone/ Typhoon projects in the past and they really work. The pedal is super sensitive and takes some getting used to.

2nd Chance Camaro - Billet Optima Battery Tray

2012 07-15 Update - Billet Optima Battery Tray
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Afternoon All,

The goal with this project is to keep it simple which means keeping the battery in the stock location. So I worked
with Ron Wilson at Wilson Muscle Cars to design a stock location Billet Battery Tray that would hold an Optima
Red Top Battery.

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If you look at the tray (in the evening after a few beers) you see a tiki face...

:lol:

Great custom solution Ron and Marty !

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Jim

Also happens after pain killers

What does it say about me if I can see it now with nothing in my system? :P Good Stuff Marty!

It means you and I are in the same boat cause I can see it too.

I understand all that has been said here. I have had issues with the DSE parts. The booster bracket ( thanks Marty for the heads up) mono to multi leaf addapter, Wiper kit for my 79 camaro the switch bracket was bent the wrong way and they told me I was wrong until I email two pictures to them and they said UMMMM I dont know what happened :rolleyes: .

The only part that I did not have a problem with was the DSE deep tubs. and the only reason for this is you have to make them fit yourself.

I do like the parts they make and usually hear good things but I will not be getting any more parts from them if I can help it. I may not have a ton of cash to spend but its still real money.

All this being said I have had nothing but GREAT customer service with the guys at Ride Tech and now I know the company that will be getting my money.

Marty keep the pics coming and sorry for the rant

Dont forget you still have my number for some pics :cheers:

Brandon

Marty,The build is coming along great.Going to be an amazing car when it's finished.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: