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DOOM 01-08-2014 06:42 AM

Trust me all that body prep will pay off in the end ! More you block the better the results. I'm tired just looking at it!

Smitty68 01-08-2014 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 527594)
Good grief! I should proof read my posts before I make them. Hope everyone can understand my broken English:action-smiley-027:

LOL! I think we all have some part in jacking the language up. I know I definately do. Anyway I am pretty close to Huntsville and I may have posted wrong but I did a bunch of racing at Byhaila. Mike and his dad Carlton ran both of those tracks.

makoshark 01-09-2014 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 527599)
Trust me all that body prep will pay off in the end ! More you block the better the results. I'm tired just looking at it!

Thanks, I'm trying to be as meticulous as possible making sure I don't miss anything. I didn't get this far and $10,000's of dollars to skimp at the end. Wanna come help:)?

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Originally Posted by Smitty68 (Post 527687)
LOL! I think we all have some part in jacking the language up. I know I definately do. Anyway I am pretty close to Huntsville and I may have posted wrong but I did a bunch of racing at Byhaila. Mike and his dad Carlton ran both of those tracks.

Did they drive an early 70's Camaro?

Smitty68 01-09-2014 10:39 AM

They may have I know the dad Carlton had an old narrowed up truck he raced. It was red and said his name on the door. Mike the son was in the control tower running the track. I want to say he did have a 70s camaro

DOOM 01-09-2014 10:42 AM

Man if you were closer I would be happy to!!

makoshark 01-09-2014 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Smitty68 (Post 527922)
They may have I know the dad Carlton had an old narrowed up truck he raced. It was red and said his name on the door. Mike the son was in the control tower running the track. I want to say he did have a 70s camaro

I remember exactly who they are now. I sold the son a mystery set of JE Pistons a few years ago.

I haven't been to the Byhalia track in a few years, but it shut down a couple years ago and someone came in and bought the track. They redid it and extended the dangerously short and pothole riddled shut down. I've heard it was a nice track to race on now.

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Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 527924)
Man if you were closer I would be happy to!!

Ah come on, Chicago isn't that far from Memphis. Come on, I'll take you to Krystal's/Whitecastle:unibrow:

makoshark 01-27-2014 03:24 PM

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Tons of bodywork has transpired to get the car to this stage. I still have tons of bodywork left to do, but this is a major hurdle still.

Roberts68 01-27-2014 03:35 PM

Lookin' good buddy!
 
:poke: In this stage I am thinking you should be calling it The Frankenmaro (Frankenstein monster mask green) or Sham-aro-rock?
In honor of the shamrock shake color.
:D

makoshark 01-27-2014 04:01 PM

Lime Time!

makoshark 02-01-2014 05:31 PM

Anyone here use the Devilbiss DeKup setup? I've been using it and I don't like the way the gun sprays compared to using the aluminum cup that came with the gun. Anyone else notice a difference the performance of their gun with the DeKup system?

Sonar Chief 02-02-2014 10:09 AM

Looking good!
 
Jeremy ..... WOW! The car is looking good .... do you still have finger prints left? Keep up the great work!

MX145 02-02-2014 11:13 PM

^^^^ what Chief said... Looks really good! Man that looks like a lot of back breaking work.

makoshark 02-03-2014 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 533439)
Jeremy ..... WOW! The car is looking good .... do you still have finger prints left? Keep up the great work!

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Originally Posted by MX145 (Post 533646)
^^^^ what Chief said... Looks really good! Man that looks like a lot of back breaking work.

Thanks guys! I think I still have a little bit left of my fingerprints, so no robbing any banks anytime soon:)

The shell has turned out excellent. I still have a few minor areas that need attention to it, but I'm very pleased all my hard work is paying off on it. I still have tons left to do.

I'm going to reassemble the car, at this point, so I can redial-in the rear pinion angle and make sure the rearend is square to the body before I proceed with anymore bodywork. Once that is completed I'll proceed with all the panels that bolt onto the car. I haven't messed with the car in a few days. The weather has been cold here for the most part and the idea of crawling around on a cold concrete floor hasn't appealed to me:)

waynieZ 02-03-2014 07:53 AM

I'm with Chief and MX145, nice work!

MX145 02-03-2014 07:48 PM

With all the trials you've gone through its gotta feel pretty good to be at this point! The car looks Awesome! :thumbsup:
I'm still working through trying to figure out what parts fit and the frustrations of limited to non-existent published specs.

makoshark 02-04-2014 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 533693)
I'm with Chief and MX145, nice work!

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Originally Posted by MX145 (Post 533862)
With all the trials you've gone through its gotta feel pretty good to be at this point! The car looks Awesome! :thumbsup:
I'm still working through trying to figure out what parts fit and the frustrations of limited to non-existent published specs.

Thanks guys!

Isn't hotrodding fun!?:mock:

Hang in there. Step away when you get too frustrated, but stick with your goal and she'll come together.

waynieZ 02-04-2014 08:32 PM

Hell Yeah!!!!!!!

streetbird 02-05-2014 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 533294)
Anyone here use the Devilbiss DeKup setup? I've been using it and I don't like the way the gun sprays compared to using the aluminum cup that came with the gun. Anyone else notice a difference the performance of their gun with the DeKup system?

I dont know about dekup on db but the painters at the last bodyshop I worked converted all their Sata with this system and make no significant difference.
But Im not a gun expert, maybe raise the air flow of the gun, I think the cup make a resistance to the flow of the paint.
Dont know how to explain.

GregWeld 02-05-2014 06:47 AM

I have a Sata 4000 and use their disposable cups... never had an issue with anything. But then again - I'm not Darryl Hollenbeck either... so maybe if I had an issue - I wouldn't notice it. LOL


I think it's operator error.

streetbird 02-05-2014 08:29 AM

have you spray with the gun upside down first to let the air out of the cup?

makoshark 02-05-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by streetbird (Post 534171)
I dont know about dekup on db but the painters at the last bodyshop I worked converted all their Sata with this system and make no significant difference.
But Im not a gun expert, maybe raise the air flow of the gun, I think the cup make a resistance to the flow of the paint.
Dont know how to explain.

I understand what your getting at. I did play around with the settings, but never could find that sweet spot

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 534174)
I have a Sata 4000 and use their disposable cups... never had an issue with anything. But then again - I'm not Darryl Hollenbeck either... so maybe if I had an issue - I wouldn't notice it. LOL


I think it's operator error.

Operator error has certainly 'not' been ruled out of the equation. However, I can't admit I'm wrong now can I?:)

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Originally Posted by streetbird (Post 534217)
have you spray with the gun upside down first to let the air out of the cup?

Yes, I do turn the gun upside down and give the trigger a full pull till paint begins to spray out.

Quite frankly, I never really liked the way this gun has sprayed. It is a Devilbiss Finishline 3 I purchased new for the sole purpose of spraying primer with it. I've searched around at the higher end models and researched how well they work over models such as mine. I haven't been able to come up with anyone saying the higher end guns are the go-to gun over cheaper models when spraying primers.

I'll give this gun and cup setup one more go the next time I'm ready to spray some primer. I'll throw the aluminum cup back on as well to see if it works any better. I am open to suggestions for a new gun for spraying primer though:)

streetbird 02-05-2014 02:28 PM

I use this 1.8 tips
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...psfb9886e4.jpg
and this primer nozzle
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps935c0c00.jpg
on a 670s devilbiss and it spray perfectly.
Check what size you use.
Also, check the packing in your gun and check if the nozzle had a blocked hole

makoshark 02-05-2014 02:44 PM

Thanks for the pics!

The tech sheet for the particular primer I'm having trouble with, says to use a 1.5-1.8. I first started with a 1.5 and quickly changed over to a 1.8 tip. My nozzle is different than the one your showing. Do you have a part # for that particular nozzle?

makoshark 02-27-2014 09:49 AM

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I haven't had any time to touch my car, but I did pick this up today.

I was on a sales trip last week for a company I am now part owners in and was in Moorseville, NC. I stopped by DSE and got a tour of their operations.

Roberts68 02-27-2014 01:17 PM

Sweet Machine. I have the same at work.
That one looks practically brand new, is it?

GregWeld 02-27-2014 01:44 PM

I have the Miller 210 and it's been a great machine... I like "simple" and the 210 is super simple... But it's now discontinued.

That 252 will be great for what you're doing.

makoshark 02-27-2014 02:45 PM

Thanks guys:)

It's a brand new machine. They never had time to unbox it and put it out in the showroom before I purchased it.

This machine, unfortunately, was not necessarily purchased for my resto. I bought into a small manufacturing company that is trying to get off the ground. The founder of the company has spent the past few years R&D'ing our product. and is now ready for the mainstream market. I went through his tools and basically threw it all out and told him it looks like we are basically starting from scratch.

We needed a machine to handle repetitive production and not miss a beat and this model fit the bill. They are super simple to setup and use.

Roberts68 02-27-2014 03:32 PM

Well congrats on the new venture, and best of luck to you both.

makoshark 02-27-2014 08:05 PM

Thanks for your blessing Robert. I feel it will be an extremely viable and lucrative venture.

Flash68 02-28-2014 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 539265)
Thanks for your blessing Robert. I feel it will be an extremely viable and lucrative venture.

Sounds exciting! Nothing like a new venture to excite and scare ya at the same time. :D You can't say you don't feel alive I bet. :thumbsup:

makoshark 02-28-2014 01:18 PM

I feel like a zombie right now. I just spent 7 days on the road demo'ing our product to potential customers and trying to establish a distributor. We made several sales and brought a major distributor on board. I had to drive 3500 miles in 7 days to do all that, though.

I also came to the conclusion I am going to have to spend many many more miles on the road to increase sales. My half-ton truck isn't going to cut it, unfortunately. That is what scares me the most. I'm going to have to go out and purchase a truck capable of handling what I need. I just bought the one I have and am going to have to sell the darn thing and go into debt:(

My car just may very well be put up for sale. I'm entertaining that thought now. I need capital

Sonar Chief 03-01-2014 11:34 AM

Jeremy ... social media should keep those miles off the truck :poke: . Well, good luck with your venture and post pictures when you can, we all love pictures!

Michael

makoshark 03-01-2014 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 539514)
Jeremy ... social media should keep those miles off the truck :poke: . Well, good luck with your venture and post pictures when you can, we all love pictures!

Michael

Thanks Michael!

All the different facets of the internet definitely help in generating awareness and sales in our product. However, we deal with both residential and commercial customers. Our commercial customers are usually highway maintenance crews, municipalities, waterworks facilities, etc and they all require an in-person demonstration. We received an email from the VA in Hawaii wanting a demo. I told them if they paid my way there and back, then I would gladly give them a demo:)

makoshark 03-03-2014 04:03 PM

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I was in downtown Memphis, TN today to go over the cad files for some of the parts I'll be needing laser cut. While I was there I thought I'd snap a picture of the downtown area. We were hit by an extremely rare winter storm in March here today. This shot is the Mississippi river, which is quite high already. This picture was taken at noon today with a high of 20*. This never happens here!

Vince@Meanstreets 03-18-2014 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 539396)
I feel like a zombie right now. I just spent 7 days on the road demo'ing our product to potential customers and trying to establish a distributor. We made several sales and brought a major distributor on board. I had to drive 3500 miles in 7 days to do all that, though.

I also came to the conclusion I am going to have to spend many many more miles on the road to increase sales. My half-ton truck isn't going to cut it, unfortunately. That is what scares me the most. I'm going to have to go out and purchase a truck capable of handling what I need. I just bought the one I have and am going to have to sell the darn thing and go into debt:(

My car just may very well be put up for sale. I'm entertaining that thought now. I need capital

Have you tried angel investors? Some financies can get you a low interest grant. There are tons of programs out there for new start ups. Im not sure how they do it with partnerships, but if you have decent credit you should be good for at least 75K. Just something to think about.

The way I see it you are losing 50% but I understand you are burnt out.
You have better odds with a business loan and finishing the car later. I say take a break, apply and let it ride. The car should be a last resort.

How far is the car from being a roller?

makoshark 03-18-2014 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 542171)
Have you tried angel investors? Some financies can get you a low interest grant. There are tons of programs out there for new start ups. Im not sure how they do it with partnerships, but if you have decent credit you should be good for at least 75K. Just something to think about.

The way I see it you are losing 50% but I understand you are burnt out.
You have better odds with a business loan and finishing the car later. I say take a break, apply and let it ride. The car should be a last resort.

How far is the car from being a roller?

I have searched around a little and spoke with a few companies about some financing. Either their interest rate was at loan shark rates or they were wanting six months of financial statements. I'm not willing to accept a high interest rate loan and the company simply isn't old enough to have six months worth of financials yet, so that ruled those out.

The original company was created by a long time friend of mine, who researched and developed the product for the past four years, which we now sell. He developed the perfect product to fill a much needed void in our target market. Interest in our product has been received well. We shipped our first unit out today from our new, 50 year old building. Our product is typically targeted towards water works facilities, roadway maintenance crews, cities, etc. We are currently building a unit for LSU that they will be flying in this coming weekend to pickup.

The company is a little past the start-up phase. We are selling our products on a regular basis, however not enough yet to really turn a profit. We could get buy with the bare essentials that we are working with, but to increase production we would need more capital. Part of our sales comes from performing demonstrations. These demos are required by many of our customers before they are allowed to purchase. I do not have the truck that could handle pulling our products all over the country. I'll need to purchase a diesel truck, but just can't quite afford to do that just yet either. That, in of itself hurts, my business.

The main reason I need capital is to help handle the Purchase Order's that my customers are required to use. My product is expensive and it is expensive for me to build. It's difficult to produce my product without capital upfront. I haven't spoken with my bank just yet about helping with the costs to build on the PO's. I'm hoping they would be more lenient in their rules to cover them. It's virtually risk free.

My friend that started this company do an excellent job in developing the product, but has no clue how to run a business. He essentially handed over the company to me and became an employee. We filed the dissolution papers with the state to dissolve the old company and created a new one with me as the sole owner. I have not looked into angel investors. I've been trying not to have to sell off pieces of the company to get it fully operational. This week I plan to try and explore as many avenues I feel is available still to me to help raise capital. One of those is the sale of my car. Hate to do it, but if its the only place I can find it, then that is where I'll have to get it. It hurts to even think about taking half of what I have in it. Trust me!

I could have the car assembled in a day, by myself and drive it out of the garage in two days. Of course, it still wouldn't be considered a roadworthy car.

Thanks for the tips!

I was born and raised in a family owned service business and handling a manufacturing business is quite a bit different.

Vince@Meanstreets 03-18-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 542173)
I have searched around a little and spoke with a few companies about some financing. Either their interest rate was at loan shark rates or they were wanting six months of financial statements. I'm not willing to accept a high interest rate loan and the company simply isn't old enough to have six months worth of financials yet, so that ruled those out.

The original company was created by a long time friend of mine, who researched and developed the product for the past four years, which we now sell. He developed the perfect product to fill a much needed void in our target market. Interest in our product has been received well. We shipped our first unit out today from our new, 50 year old building. Our product is typically targeted towards water works facilities, roadway maintenance crews, cities, etc. We are currently building a unit for LSU that they will be flying in this coming weekend to pickup.

The company is a little past the start-up phase. We are selling our products on a regular basis, however not enough yet to really turn a profit. We could get buy with the bare essentials that we are working with, but to increase production we would need more capital. Part of our sales comes from performing demonstrations. These demos are required by many of our customers before they are allowed to purchase. I do not have the truck that could handle pulling our products all over the country. I'll need to purchase a diesel truck, but just can't quite afford to do that just yet either. That, in of itself hurts, my business.

The main reason I need capital is to help handle the Purchase Order's that my customers are required to use. My product is expensive and it is expensive for me to build. It's difficult to produce my product without capital upfront. I haven't spoken with my bank just yet about helping with the costs to build on the PO's. I'm hoping they would be more lenient in their rules to cover them. It's virtually risk free.

My friend that started this company do an excellent job in developing the product, but has no clue how to run a business. He essentially handed over the company to me and became an employee. We filed the dissolution papers with the state to dissolve the old company and created a new one with me as the sole owner. I have not looked into angel investors. I've been trying not to have to sell off pieces of the company to get it fully operational. This week I plan to try and explore as many avenues I feel is available still to me to help raise capital. One of those is the sale of my car. Hate to do it, but if its the only place I can find it, then that is where I'll have to get it. It hurts to even think about taking half of what I have in it. Trust me!

I could have the car assembled in a day, by myself and drive it out of the garage in two days. Of course, it still wouldn't be considered a roadworthy car.

Thanks for the tips!

I was born and raised in a family owned service business and handling a manufacturing business is quite a bit different.

Yeah I hear you, i am in the same boat. I passed on loans and am running it on my own cash. Hang in there. It all works out.

I may have a client that may want the car but I'd have to transport. That's why I asked how far from being a roller. I'll do the math and make a proposal.

makoshark 03-18-2014 07:50 PM

I certainly appreciate it Vince. I can make the car a roller, no problem. I was at that stage that I needed to make it a roller again to do a few things before I jumped back into the body getting it ready for paint. However, all this happened and the car got pushed to the side.

69Z28X11 03-20-2014 10:27 PM

Hold Out!!!
 
I have spent three hours catching up on your build! DON"T SELL!! I understand what you are going through and have been living pay check to pay check the past two years. Watching your build has kept me going and I've had to watch my car take a back seat ride for a long time. Needless to say, I have a place you can store it if you need it. Money will come and go. It's gone now but it will return in the next year or so. If you sell it, you will for sure regret it. I've sold lots of things over the past two years to make ends meet. The only thing I neglect to sell is my car. I have taken on a second job to help fund my build as well. I will be in Memphis next month for a bachelor party. May try and stop by to look at your car if thats possible. :happy23: Ill buy the first round if your up for it. Best of Luck to you!

Smitty68 04-01-2014 11:07 PM

Car is coming along great man! Keep on grinding away at it.


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