Are you painting or powder coating the sub? Powder just seems to hold up better from the rock chips, oils/road grime, salt...I powdered everything under mine 'cept the subframe, but that will be phase two...

Sorry to hear about the fire, scary sh...t.

What KTM do i spy in the back round? The white fender indicates that it an '11 or newer? That's my main drug, cant ride till march due to a shoulder injury

Wow!! Just saw this tonight! Sorry to hear about all of this---

I've lived through this once with the Green 69--it sucked. The good part was exactly what you are getting to do now--address some of the things you wanted to. Take care of the motor and frame stuff---you don't get too many opportunities to have both out of the car at the same time--you can always put suspension under it later (Control arms, spindles, etc). I would take the chance and rewire the front half of the car since you have it apart---upgrade wire diameter where necessary, relays, etc. Make it safe from an electrical standpoint as well. Just watch out--like Greg mentioned--otherwise you can end up with a complete tear down and a couple of years of downtime. Keep scope creep under control---funds usually force this upon us--however credit cards scream their loudest in moments like these. Keep us posted on progress---

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Thanks glassman,
I'll powercoat if finances allow it.

Fire isn't any fun, can't imagine a house fire.

'11 KTM 300XC, just sold it :( for a real good price ;) They've been my main drug since '71. :thumbsup:

Thanks Doug,
Currently waiting on State Farm's adjuster to inspect, when that happens we'll be able to act vs speculate. ;)

The two front wire looms need to be replaced IMO, I've figured OEM from Classic Ind. or equivalent. All new front and dash looms from American would be nice but I don't have huge electrical demands with a Gen 1 motor, no AC, manual windows, and no radio. Any advice on looms would be appreciated.

If I can get the new frame under it that would be nice, but it's an outside chance at this point. The front of the car was hit at some point in it's life and the sheet metal alignment isn't good. A new core support would be a good starting point as I think it's high on the driver's side........back to that scope creep issue.

No CC charging on this project, last time a ran a credit card up (thanks to a friend's inspiration) was my first and last and that was in '79. ;)

State Farm hasn't been there yet?? Here in IL they have to inspect the lose within 48 hrs of reporting the lose. How long as it been already?

Good for you Sieg on not building a CC car or home loan car! Same here on CC they are for when you need them or if I make a purchase and don't want to bring cash, but then I will pay it off at the end of the month. They don't like me at all, I used to run a balance and they liked me much more back then.

I received a claim number on Friday, my agent inquired yesterday, so hopefully today.

I was 20 or 21 and still remember opening my CC bill and seeing a balance of $2,400, looked at the minimum payment, and then at the interest and thought about it a bit and grabbed a pair of scissors and cut the card up.

Thankfully I took that approach then and the experience has stayed with me.

Yup that's why my car still isn't finished :lol: But I'm good with that. I just wait for deals to come up on the forms or eBay and then if I have the cash I will buy if I don't then the car doesn't get more parts!

So far other then some body panels and the q-link I'm trying to finish the deal on right now, I have bought all my parts at a discount. DSE mini tubs and frame connectors on eBay saved a bunch, DSE 9" housing and axles for the q-link from Ron which I stole from him :thumbsup: What a good friend he is! Just got a great deal on a set of new tires from Marty! I will finish it before my son and daughter drive :lol: Oh wait that's in 6 years :willy:

Thats my goal to build the best car I can afford!

Let me know if you need anything for under you hood I may have some good stock stuff that you could use :thumbsup:

Thanks, it appears most of the stuff damaged with the exception of wiring is aftermarket. Ron generously helped me out with a wiper motor. :thumbsup:

I'm pretty much resolved to the fact the car will never be completed and will continue to improve as finances allow. :yes:

Stopped by the shop and saw the car for the first time since the fire. It's sitting right next to a very nicely restored '63 Corvette split window........that was comforting.

The adjuster has been by and now they are having an investigator stop by to determine the cause of the fire. They must not want to pay for a new carb :_paranoid Hopefully that inspection happens tomorrow and we'll know where we stand and can plot a course.

The plan is to pull all the front sheet metal and slip the engine and trans out the front intact. This could be a golden opportunity to fix the drivers headlight bucket fit/alignment that I suspect is due to a accident distorted core support.

The owner mentioned if I want to change out the subframe he could bring the roller back to my house which could work out well if the stars align properly. :thumbsup:

Sieg not sure if it was mentioned but they will pay for the damage from the fire, but they do not pay for the part that CAUSED the fire! I've seen this many times. Once we had a Jag V12 with an engine fire in the shop, they payed for all the damage that was caused by the fire, hood repaint, fuel lines so on and so on. But they didn't pay for the wiring which they said caused the fire. That's why they send out an inspector!

Can't imagine they'd be suspicous of Lucas electrics. :rofl: What really hurts is having to pay for more of their stuff. Assuming it was an XK V12.

Since Norwood is in the shop I needed a pacifier so I brought another black and orange
adrenaline pump out of storage for an occational fix. :unibrow:

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...IMAG2725-M.jpg

mmmmmmm. I love orange and black. KTM got their first outdoor American title..woo hoo...Why you' let the 3hunny go?

Nice! :thumbsup:

I had an offer I couldn't refuse and too little time to ride. It helped fund the T56 conversion, C5 brakes, and HTP MIG/TIG/Plasma equipment. :yes: Hopefully the insurance work goes smooth and maybe we'll see some front suspension enhancements.

Here's some internals.........

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...72_DFJKW-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...48_7CEr7-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...65_vJkZ6-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...81_BeLM7-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/..._i6oJD-L-1.jpg

Approx. 3.16 lbs per rwhp.

You got me drooling Sieg.....Thats some sweet looking iron :unibrow:

Name the turns buddy!

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...86_yBY4s-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...28_gEtRb-L.jpg

:thumbsup:

Nice!! :thumbsup:

Thats fricken awesome dude!! You just made my day! :cheers:

Alright, I got some help showing up outside soon so real quick,,,,12 and 13 for the first two and I dont have time to disect the last one but dont tell me and I'll be back. :thumbsup:

I know I know....think tree dude.

@Vince, with so many trees out their how will he ever figure it out. :D

Hmmmm, more Orange Track Junky porn?

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...90_hia7s-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...97_YnWxL-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...37_qTNiU-L.jpg

:thumbsup:

those don't look like 200tw tires??

Pirelli Dragon Super Corsa DOT's about $265 a set from track day vendors.

T-2 at T-Hill can be tough on tires if your air pressure is a little low. 22 psi cold Ducati 1098
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/..._qxnPx-L-2.jpg

Better air pressure worse suspension set-up, rebound, compression, and preload need some attention. 24 psi cold Ducati 1098
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/..._8oVu5-L-2.jpg

Relatively close air and suspension settings. 26 psi cold KTM 1190, less tq than the Ducati.
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...33_c5PWL-L.jpg

Here's one of many tuning videos by cycle suspension guru Dave Moss:
http://youtu.be/nhhSBwclJCo

Just because it's cool here's the KTM RC8 track bike with a 45/200/17 Michelin Slick:

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Other/KTM/i-...MAG1926-XL.jpg

Alright I'm back. All I could come up with is turn 10. :_paranoid

In all honesty I'm not positive but I think it's T-11.....uphill tight left-hander. I remember Dito down in the grass between T-10 & 11 and I think the tree is in the pit area even though it looks closer. :thumbsup:

Found this video shot a year prior: http://youtu.be/hvBr5u1uQKg if nothing else it's a good watch and I'd definitely take that car out for a session there. :yes:

I think your right. I was going to edit my response and say 11 after rethinking that chain link fence.
Those pics you added are awesome. I cant wait to get back there.

:thumbsup:

Thanks, it's a great bike track too.....except T-3 is sketchy on a bike I can't wait to get back to T-Hill and Casa Ramos :unibrow:

Stopped by the shop today for a status report and they'd just received the green light from State Farm. The inspector doesn't think the fire was caused by the carb, possibly a fuel line leak. Reasoning was the venturi's would be blackened and they are clean. Looks like they might be supplementing a new Holley HP.

Well that's good news!!!

Since AMD discontinued their '69 subframe I figured an attempt at salvaging the one I have was in order. If nothing else I figured I'd learn more fabs skills.

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...MAG2743-XL.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...IMAG2736-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...IMAG2753-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...IMAG2742-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...IMAG2752-L.jpg

I think there's hope.

The current plan is to install a piece of 6 ga. in the cross-member with two vertical risers to eliminate any jack damage.

Constructive criticism and other abuse welcome. :thumbsup:

It looks like you got a good start on it.

Looking good Sieg

Just straighten the piece you cut out -- now that you can work on it - and weld IT back in. Drill a nice hole in it in a couple places --- before you weld it back in -- locate and drill the other "side" (since your bit won't go thru both pieces with the big gap).... and when you weld the piece back in - stick a couple pipes (tubing) in the holes to span the gap - weld them in and you have your strength for the jacking

So here's a pic of a piece I did on a crossmember -- for a different purpose (to pass a fuel line thru -- but similar to what I'm talking about.....



Punch your hole




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...o/file-127.jpg




Fit your tubing




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...o/file-128.jpg




Trim your tubing to dimension:





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...o/file-129.jpg




WELD IT IN!

I like the tubing trick. :thumbsup:

I don't like trying to make this a piece of my car! :willy:
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...MAG2758-XL.jpg

When I take it to the scrap yard they'll probably laugh at me. :D

Couldn't you get a similar effect to the tubing idea by putting a couple plates perpendicular to the crossmember? They would be standing vertical. Each plate could have a shallow tab on it which would go in a slot cut in the cross member.

Buzz it in and then grind it smooth. You would be left with a box within a box so I would think it would be quite strong, and not all that hard to do.

That's the plan Robert. :thumbsup:

Besides my odds of making a good straight weld are much better compared to a round one. :D

Take good pics. I might decide to copy that idea.

What else do you have in store for this sub? I would be tempted to sandblast inside of it while you have it open for surgery... but then I live in the "Rust Belt" and despise the stuff wholeheartedly.

My car is pretty clean overall but I want to erradicate the nasty red stuff from the sub I am going to use, inside and out. It could be contagious.:_paranoid I wonder if it can jump an aluminum body mount?:lol:

Stopped by the repair shop this afternoon:

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...MAG2759-XL.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...IMAG2760-L.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...MAG2764-XL.jpg

It could be worse, like this guy who came in to get an estimate to repair his girlfriends truck after he put two 7mm Mag rounds through it sighting in his dear rifle this weekend.
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Cama...IMAG2772-L.jpg
There were two 7mm holes 1" apart on the inside rail. Those guys sporting the decals got nothing on him. :rofl:

nice group if he was 400 yards away. :yes:

Be sure to square that sucker up and brace it before you do the final welding.