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Rick D

05-21-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS 454 (Post 481620)

Awesome work and engineering.:thumbsup: And Thanks for sharing your ideas. Mark. Maybe you can get ideas about the paint to the XV from this video Inside Koenigsegg when Christian explain the paint job on their carbon cars. Or search Agera Hundra. It Looks beautiful with its golden stripes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-IYh8Ln0wQ

Nice video!! That's a nice car for sure :G-Dub:

It's interesting how talks about what the paint weighs, when I did my buds NMCA 10" tire car a few years ago he wanted me to make sure that the primer and paint and clear coat didn't weigh to much :lostmarbles: these speed guys are crazy! Not saying I don't get it because I do, I just hope I never start to think how much can I save if I only put two coats of clear on :confused18:

GRob	05-22-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 481607)

The DSE sub frame uses 1967-9 Camaro style mounts and adaptors to put a LS into their frame. To use the direct mount LS style 2002 engine mounts we had to make new frame mounts. The shorty headers clear all the relocated OEM engine mount. DSE set up is designed to use their headers and engine mounts. Their system works great, but I wanted a differnt set up for more room and better N&V.

Mark

Thanks Mark, but could you not have run rubber SBC mounts to achieve your NVH goals? My understanding is that SBC mounts are available in many different compounds nowadays, which may have further helped with your NVH tuning.

Al Moreno

06-10-2013 07:08 PM

Mark I tried PMing you but your message box is full. When you get a chance clear a few. Need to ask you a question. THX!

Stielow

07-06-2013 07:32 PM

Guys a couple updates. I had my car together at my car party so a couple shots of the car.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps1af7e669.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...psea0a5f1e.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps04af887e.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...psc90ce8ac.jpg

Mark

Stielow

07-06-2013 07:43 PM

We have the Cooling "stack" in the car and the ECM and BCM mounted.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps88bab659.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps15f40cf8.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps224057ee.jpg

I have learned put the ECM and BCM (Fuse Block) where you can get to them easy.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps7cda2c73.jpg

Start of the inlet tube. It will flare from 4" to 4 3/4"

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps59d12966.jpg

Mark

tubbed69

07-06-2013 07:49 PM

Mark great work as always,sure has a nice stance

Flash68

07-06-2013 07:51 PM

Wider tires and stance look killer.

Do you know the front and rear new track width by chance Mark?

fleetus macmullitz

07-06-2013 08:03 PM

Mark,

It appears lower than some of your other Camaros.

Is it, or will it be?

Sieg	07-06-2013 08:11 PM

Really like the front bodywork, the styling below the headlights is very clean, including the fender to lower cowl junction.

Have you designed a bumper bar behind the carbon yet? Alloy or CM?

Good Work Mr. Stielow :thumbsup:

DaleTx

07-06-2013 08:13 PM

Looks great Mark... I am wondering how much weight savings with the carbon fiber parts on the front.

Look forward to more pictures on the build and info on the dry sump system install. The front spoiler looks great!

214Chevy

07-06-2013 08:14 PM

All of that carbon fiber looks awesome. As already stated, stance is spot on too.:G-Dub:

Stielow

07-06-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 491723)

Mark,

It appears lower than some of your other Camaros.

Is it, or will it be?

We slammed it down for the car party. Not sure if we will run it that low. It is about an inch lower than Red Devil.

Stielow

07-06-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 491725)

We will build a bumper stiffener made out of CM. It also need to reinforce the lower grill support.

Mark

coolwelder62

07-06-2013 09:10 PM

Mark,As always camaro look's great.

frankv11

07-06-2013 09:44 PM

that whole front clip is a piece of art, especially the fit on the bumper.

Matt@BOS

07-06-2013 09:54 PM

Hey Mark, how is the fit with the 315s? I bought a set of Anvil's fenders recently and I'm curious if you're happy with how the wheel and tire sits, or if you needed to add a little more backspace, or trim the inside of the fender lip to get the wheel and tire to turn without issue.

thanks,

Matt

FETorino

07-06-2013 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 491712)

Guys a couple updates. I had my car together at my car party so a couple shots of the car.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...psc90ce8ac.jpg

Mark

That hood is a work of art.:wow:

WSSix

07-07-2013 07:24 AM

Looks great as always! Keep up the good work guys!

Stielow

07-07-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleTx (Post 491726)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 491748)

I have a 18 X 11 mocked up on the front with a PSII 315/30R18. It fits OK but it needs more backspacing than I like to maintain turning radius. I'm concerned with too much tire rubbing. All my previous projects has a lot of tire rubbing and the steel parts just lost their paint. This CF parts will most likely wear away. My plan is to add steering stops and try the 18 X 11 with 7 inch back spacing. The problem is the AutoXs with the 180 degree turns. Also with AutoX like Holley Fest where there is a big bump in a very sharp turn could junk a fender. The steel parts could take a lot of abuse. Unsure on this CF stuff durability. I really like the parts and think I can make it all work.

Mark

Matt@BOS

07-07-2013 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 491797)

The delta between all the steel parts (Hood, Fenders, Inner Fenders, Header, Cowl, Lower Vance with Bumper) was 122 lbs. Some weight will need to be added back to reinforce the grill and bumper. The parts fit better than I though they would. Also then it is all bolted together the stuff feels very stiff.

I have a 18 X 11 mocked up on the front with a PSII 315/30R18. It fits OK but it needs more backspacing than I like to maintain turning radius. I'm concerned with too much tire rubbing. All my previous projects has a lot of tire rubbing and the steel parts just lost their paint. This CF parts will most likely wear away. My plan is to add steering stops and try the 18 X 11 with 7 inch back spacing. The problem is the AutoXs with the 180 degree turns. Also with AutoX like Holley Fest where there is a big bump in a very sharp turn could junk a fender. The steel parts could take a lot of abuse. Unsure on this CF stuff durability. I really like the parts and think I can make it all work.

Mark

I was a little concerned about that. I've run 6.5" backspacing before and it was no fun on the street, or a tight autocross. The 6.5" backspacing caused wear against the carbon inner fenders, and was severe enough to distort the weave from heat. Every time I had to make a U turn the wheels would scrape against the control arms. I put rack limiters in, but then ended up with a significantly limited turning radius. I imagine that with 6.25" backspace there is still a fair amount of contact against the inner fenders from time to time. I made a simple modification to roll the inside of the fender lip up on my normal steel fenders and was wondering if modifying the inside lip on the Anvil parts might also be in order. I bought fiberglass ones and I would like to stay away from any major cutting, and glass work, but may resort to pulling the everything out a little more.

I'm sure you will figure out a solution. It seems you always do!

Matt

Ketzer

07-07-2013 06:23 PM

Bond an aluminum "rub strip" to the inner fender where you know it will rub? Very little weight, dissipate the heat... okay, maybe I'm showing just how redneck I am.:bitchslap:

Jeff-

WSSix

07-07-2013 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketzer (Post 491888)

Bond an aluminum "rub strip" to the inner fender where you know it will rub? Very little weight, dissipate the heat... okay, maybe I'm showing just how redneck I am.:bitchslap:

Jeff-

:gitrdun:

Actually, I think that's a good idea. However, I know squat about CF really.

Sieg	07-07-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketzer (Post 491888)

Bond an aluminum "rub strip" to the inner fender where you know it will rub? Very little weight, dissipate the heat... okay, maybe I'm showing just how redneck I am.:bitchslap:

Jeff-

I don't see the concept as a bad idea, possibly UMHA instead of aluminum.

http://www.crownplastics.com/polymer...sses/materials

http://www.shop3m.com/3m-uhmw-pe-tap...ssr7s8qpk.html

aggie91

07-08-2013 10:06 AM

I'm new here, but I have always liked your builds. I think the first one that hooked me as Red Witch. Then the Mule in PHR was a great car to make me want more than just a drag car. I like that you use a bunch of off the shelf GM parts on your cars.

I skimmed thru this one, but I must really read the whole thing from start to finish.

This is going to be an awsome car!

Stielow

07-11-2013 06:57 PM

Matt at Sled Alley is doing a great job on the induction tube. It is 4" to 4.5" to 4.75" inch K&N MAF sensor. Going to a nice big 5 inch inlet K&N filter. We need a lot of air to make a lot of power.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...psb2a9ab11.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...pse69fa9ad.jpg

Mark

:flag2:

Al Moreno

07-11-2013 07:07 PM

WOW, guys make it look easy. Mad skills! :hail:

efs69

07-12-2013 05:50 PM

Mark,

Could you post some more details on the oil tank mods when you have a chance.

Project is looking great....as usual.

Thanks

byndbad914

07-17-2013 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 455911)

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps0aa24acc.jpg
I can also fit a 11 inch wide front wheel!

Nice well made parts that fit well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 491797)

I have a 18 X 11 mocked up on the front with a PSII 315/30R18. It fits OK but it needs more backspacing than I like to maintain turning radius. I'm concerned with too much tire rubbing.

Mark, what offset or backspace are you using with the 11"?

I am in process right now of ordering nearly identical wheels (the GA3s, not the Rs, fit-wise identical designs) for my 66 Nova and am also going to use them on my 2011 Z06 that has ZR1 brakes (Carbon Edition). I could not get an 11"; I am having to stay at 10.5" because the inner barrel of the 11" hits the ZR1 caliper and the 10.5" just squeaks by. For the Vette I need to run a 37.5mm offset (~7-1/4" backspace) so if I were to reduce that by 1/2" I could run an 11", so maybe you are in the 6.5" BS or 25-30mm offset range or less?

If so, keep in mind if you want a more BS for fender clearance you will need to go to the narrower wheel at around 7" of BS. I will be running a 295 tire because the 315 can hit the inner fender stuff on the Z06, you can still run the 315 on a 10.5" wheel since you won't have that issue on the Camaro.

dropped72ss

07-17-2013 08:31 PM

Incredible work! Car looks amazing already, can't wait to see the finished product.

next69

08-02-2013 10:48 AM

Any updates for us Mark?

Stielow

08-06-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by next69 (Post 496869)

Any updates for us Mark?

Matt has been busy getting the cage going.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps43fdf8d5.jpg

coolwelder62

08-06-2013 08:40 PM

Mark,Matt does an awesome job on the Fabrication.I can't wait until I get some time to have him show me the art of Leading.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Stielow

08-10-2013 04:45 PM

Getting closer on the induction tube.

4 inch to 4.5 tube transition.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps369e02ec.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps0ee406ac.jpg

GregWeld

08-10-2013 04:56 PM

Charley called and said he wants a custom leather interior - big stereo - A/C - power windows and just some all around luxury items this time....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Looks great Mark!