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89 RS 08-13-2013 11:09 PM

Good stuff Gaetano, motor sounds healthy. Thanks for sharing man.

Ron Sutton 08-14-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 499030)
Thanks Ron. Just to give you some insight on my path to dialing my suspension in I had moved my watts pivot(not using a panhard)
Gotcha.

up last season to take the push out of the car.
Ok. Now that you lowered the front end 1/2" you're loading the front end a LOT more, and it has gripped up the front ... making the car loose with the high RC. If you're not clear, dropping the front end 1/2" is a HUGE change.

With race cars, raising or lowering either end of the car 1/8" is a significant tuning change. 1/4" is a major change. 1/2" is a ton. It will affect the car's grip balance enormously. We don't do this a lot in the front of stock cars, because we're usually at or near the minimum already. So if we need a significant change, we might raise the rear & reset all the link angles.

It slips my mind ... that because you don't have any class rules ... you can do whatever physically works. Dropping the front end 1/2" is where you got the majority of the added front tire grip. The caster & camber changes you made played a smaller role.


I am now at a point where I'm getting more front grip so I am able to drop rear roll center to increase rear grip.
Yup.Yup.

I'll double check on how much each bolt location moves roll center but my guess is about an inch.
Ok. For discussion sake, post the max & minimum height from the ground ... and the difference from hole to hole.

Skatey would be a decent description of how the front feels now.
Is "now" session #5?
At what part of the corner does the front feel skatey?
Does the rear now have "good grip" throughout the corner?


I'm thinking it's a combination of still a bit too much castor that might be affecting my scrub radius
:headscratch:
What is your scrub radius & Caster at currently?

and I dont think the toe is the same as when I left the alignment shop
Hmmm. Curbs?

not to mention it would help to have a decent set of shocks.
Of course.

I'm going to verify if the alignment moved any next Saturday.

Cool. Get your scrub radius # & caster degree then too.


sixnina 10-19-2013 06:59 AM

So how's the tuning going Gaetano any updates??
Shane

Track Junky 10-20-2013 12:20 PM

Work was super busy and then when it slowed down I renewed a couple of my certifications which meant going back to the training classes. So I am now recertified for OSHA permit required confined space entry and excavations/competent person. Also am currently trying to get approval for QSP certification. I passed my QSP exam but your not official until you get an underlying certificate so I am now working on completing the application process for my CESSWI. Lots of reading/studying to do.

As far as the car goes, after my last event at T-Hill I noticed a vibration in the drive line my last two laps of the 5th session. Turns out it was the trans. The car has been up on jack stands for the past month and I finally got time this morning to box the trans up for shipping. Going to take some time off on Tuesday to shipp'er out for refreshing.

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GregWeld 10-20-2013 03:04 PM

Hey Gae!


You know how I tune my stuff?? I drive it as fast as I can and if it starts skating around then I know I've hit the limits of traction -- either end of the car depending on which end is skating. When that happens -- I try to change my line in that same corner next time -- or I enter or exit slower. DONE.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

intocarss 10-20-2013 03:18 PM

Who built that crate for you???

Track Junky 10-20-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 511601)
Hey Gae!


You know how I tune my stuff?? I drive it as fast as I can and if it starts skating around then I know I've hit the limits of traction -- either end of the car depending on which end is skating. When that happens -- I try to change my line in that same corner next time -- or I enter or exit slower. DONE.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I think we need to work on changing your strategy :disgusted: :mock: :lol:

Track Junky 10-20-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 511602)
Who built that crate for you???

I woke up early this morning, busted out the skill saw and tape measure, then chopped and cut some 1x1 and 1/2" plywood I had laying around. Worked out perfect. Tranny fits like a glove.

Had to get it done before taking my boys to the go kart place.

Vince@Meanstreets 10-20-2013 04:38 PM

:flag2:
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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 511613)
I woke up early this morning, busted out the skill saw and tape measure, then chopped and cut some 1x1 and 1/2" plywood I had laying around. Worked out perfect. Tranny fits like a glove.

Had to get it done before taking my boys to the go kart place.

What? Dont you mean skateboard place?

FETorino 10-20-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 511627)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 511613)
I woke up early this morning, busted out the skill saw and tape measure, then chopped and cut some 1x1 and 1/2" plywood I had laying around. Worked out perfect. Tranny fits like a glove.

Had to get it done before taking my boys to the go kart place.

:flag2:

What? Dont you mean skateboard place?

No it's GW that "skates":guns:

I'm sure GW appreciates the less technical term plywood but I'd call it OSB.:lmao:

Congrats on the certs:thumbsup:

:cheers:


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