I got ya now. So it is spot welded between the two. Thanks a lot!!!

Need some help
 

with the front shock setup! Lat G members I need some help figuring out spring clearance on the front, I thought I had it figured out and fabbed up some adapter plates to move the shock mounting point AFT 5/8".

Few days ago I started on the front shocks and found the spring hit the UCA ... hmmmm, I checked the static camber on the driver's side, added some washers to get -0.7, good now. Found out that if I moved the shock mount aft 5/8" the spring would clear UCA during travel. So I fabbed up a 1/4" plate and welded the RT mount on it!

Kool ... checked the passenger side camber, it was different, didn't need any additional washers to push the UCA out (see where this is going?) to get static camber at -0.7. NOW both sides have different thickness spacers .... should I be worried? Started making the same mount for the passenger side ... checking it the spring doesn't clear the UCA at all.

Part of this is due to the thickness of my adapter plate and the RT mount which pushes the mounting point out away from the frame ...

???? Should I account for the camber? Am I on the wrong track here?

I know what I need to do but don't know the best way .... I need to hack off the original mount and move it AFT 5/8" and possibly inward a little to give more angle of the dangle and clearance for the spring.

Any suggestions? Take a look at the pics I took and chime in with positive ideas to fix this.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/VIZ9xd.jpg
Passenger side static camber with less washers than the drivers side!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/VTOKtF.jpg
Passenger side washers .... spring hits UCA.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/1j7qYd.jpg
Clearance on the DRIVERS side ... 3/16"?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/qeiVcc.jpg
Drivers side camber washers and clearance!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/WklSUf.jpg
This is the RT mount I welded onto the plate to move the CL over 5/8"
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/yEfvC3.jpgOh yeah ... got my compressor in and bolted to the floor ... back in business!!

I know there is a lot going on here, hopefully the pics help visualize things here. I didn't want to hack off the frame mount just to move the shock aft 5/8" .... but I am outa options.

Any suggestions would be appreciated ...

Thanks for looking and helping me out ....

I think you should try and bolt everything up to the subframe and check everything else before you dig any deeper. Check frame rails for square and level ,steering linkage clearance, radiator support location and mounting, etc etc.

I think pushing that upper shock mount inward would cause more problems. Your basically going to have to rebuild/reconfigure the control arm mount/shock mount to be safe and still retain correct geometry.

Clean build, should be a beast.

Did you ever fix the subframe control arm/shock mount issue?

Fixed shock
 

mounting point, no more clearance issues!!! Been busy with classes lately ... had a mount design cut out and then I didn't like it. So I said to myself ... self, why don't you just move the original shock mount back the distance you need and be done with it?

So, that is what I did today ... played hookie from school work and worked in the garage until it was done, I just finished!

Cut off the mount, plated the hole leftover, squared up everything, checked, and double checked .... add welder!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/FZZaQs.jpg
Mount all welded in secure!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/wJeqeJ.jpg
Idea of how much I moved it over .... I'll weld inside when I pull the engine next!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/dycs8I.jpg
Driver's side looks good ...
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/IW93Ij.jpg
Passenger side didn't take as long ... go figure!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/iexIk1.jpg
Sitting on all fours .... heck yeah!

Just had to get this done, it was bugging me soooo bad!

Thanks for looking .... I have some class work to do now :waveflag:

I think you might want to consider cutting off the complete square tubing that supports that coil over and make another.

The way you have it takes the strength out of that shock mount and puts the load just on the 3/16th upper a arm mount. I think once the coil over starts to compress up and down its going to act like if you bent a coat hanger back and forth and shear that upper mount off.

That's a lot of weight and load to trust it the way you have it now.

Ahmed,

I have wondered how much load the upper shock mount is subjected to. There have been a number of adjustable upper mount designs over the years and I've not seen one break; doesn't mean it didn't happen and if it did happen at speed ... it could be catastrophic! :wow:

Anyone know mow much force is exerted on the upper mount? And how to measure or ensure it is reliable?

That's a good question Ron ... I was thinking of using a 1/4" plate on the engine side of the mount to re-enforce the mount, say 6" and the full width now. Just need to fix the header clearance now and then I can pull the engine ... again!

Any other ideas?

Very nice build! :D