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SDMAN 11-04-2007 06:21 PM

New mwmber with new project
 
Just a quick hello. Have a frame up custom 1970 GTO under construction. By the end of Nov, the Budnik wheels should be here and I will post up some pics of the frame/suspension and brakes.

A short list of some of the components being used; Art Morrison Max-G frame, C-5 front susp and 4 bar/watts rear susp, Mark Williams modular 9" rearend, Strange double adj coil overs, Baer 6 piston monoblocks all 4 corners, Budnik billet wheels (18"X11" F, 18"X15"R), Mickey Thompson street radials (26X12X18F, 29X18X18R), G-Force T-56 with all custom internals, etc.
Motor is a 542 inch procharged pontiac based on the IA-2 cylinder block.
Never gone to this level before. Having a blast and cant wait until its done (likely ~ June of 2008).

camcojb 11-04-2007 06:26 PM

wow, what a project! :thumbsup: Welcome to the site.

Jody

68protouring454 11-04-2007 07:10 PM

sdman you need to post pics, post some of the car before you tore it apart for maxg, use goodle picasa or fquick so you can load pics easy

NOT A TA 11-04-2007 09:01 PM

Welcome! Everyone likes pics! Post up whatever you've got. Do you have the IA II motor yet? I'd love to build one for my Firebird. Too many projects right now.

John

G-Body 11-05-2007 03:20 PM

i CANT WAIT TO FOLLOW THIS BUILD THE 70 gOAT IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN MY FAVORAITE CAR ON THE PLANET! PICS PLZZZZZ .LOL

Spiffav8 11-05-2007 03:54 PM

This will be a good one to follow. Can't wait to see some pictures.

Welcome :lateral:

SDMAN 11-05-2007 06:18 PM

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Pic of the car in a former rendition. The newer version currently under construction is going to put the car in the weeds.

907rs 11-05-2007 06:42 PM

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Pic of the car in a former rendition. The newer version currently under construction is going to put the car in the weeds.

I was wondering if you were the same guy. That is one killer car!! Have you done anything to it in the last couple of years?

SDMAN 11-05-2007 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NOT A TA
Welcome! Everyone likes pics! Post up whatever you've got. Do you have the IA II motor yet? I'd love to build one for my Firebird. Too many projects right now.

John

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Virtually the entire motor is at the machine shop. A few things that they will need to order(pistons, rocker shaft, etc). The custom Procharger mount
and accessory drive is mocked up and all it needs is to be reproduced (with a few extra details) in nicer material we can have anodized. Right now we think it will be on the dyno in mid-late January. Even if that slipped a month or two, no big deal. Car wont be ready until at least May.

907rs...Drove the car for a while and really enjoyed it. But, I wanted more. Thats what this is all about.

SDMAN 11-05-2007 08:00 PM

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Pic posting troubles.
try again.

SDMAN 11-05-2007 08:09 PM

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One more. Very early prototype work getting the Procharger on and getting the Power steering, A/C, alt and water pump drive all working together. Water pump is a custom, reverse rotation Pontiac part from Evans. The Blower drive is a 50mm wide, 8mm tooth cog. Its my first supercharged motor. 542 ci, EFI, solid roller, etc. Big inch, moderate boost (10-12#) pump gas motor. Intercooled.

Ive been busy the last couple of years.

SDMAN 11-07-2007 10:16 PM

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An early mock up to see how low we could get the front end, with the tires placed at the correct track width. I dont think we will push it to this extreme.

SDMAN 11-07-2007 10:18 PM

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These are the wheels Budnik is making for this car.

SDMAN 11-07-2007 10:21 PM

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And this is one of the monoblock front calipers that fit the C-5 spindle with a 2 piece 14" rotor. Just between you and me, I think this big brake thing is completely out of hand.

Tom.A 11-07-2007 10:42 PM

Very nice. :thumbsup:

GTOBRET 11-08-2007 04:45 PM

Wicked. Can't wait to see pics of it when it's done.

SDMAN 02-03-2008 02:11 PM

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Quick update. Here is a wheel, tire and brake shot. Wheels took longer than they were supposed to, but so is everything else.


As for the frame, the rear frame rails have been moved in 3" a side, we have the custom 4 link complete, watts link is fabbed and the mount is almost ready. Coil overs are mounted as well. Should have the frame out of the race car shop late this week.
Currently stripping everything off of the body shell in preparation for cutting the floor out of it so we can mount it on the frame. Have the motor plates, dummy block and gutted 4L80-E tranny for mocking up the drivetrain. And the glass front end is going on at the same time. Once the body is on in the final position, we can position the tires, cut the axle tubes and order the axles. Then it rolls.
Likely wont post again until this is all done. See ya in late march.

Sales@Dutchboys 02-03-2008 02:20 PM

:thumbsup: Killer Project....Love the wheels and brakes!


Paul

G-Body 02-03-2008 08:30 PM

Wow!!! dont know how to say this but this black 70 GTO is the one car that I seen a few quick photos of on a GTO site and felll head over heels for kinda like the time you see that perfect woman and love at first site!
One of the reasons is my first car and favoriate car is the 1970 Pontiac GTO
always has been and the way this car is being built is like im building it myself without spending the money just how i would have built it to a tee, now we all have seen cars that yeah maybe i would change this or that but this car is dead on & wow what a sweet ride and look forward to following this beautiful car good luck and keep the cool photos comming!

Kendall Burleson 02-04-2008 01:53 PM

That GTO will make a killer ride,looking forward to see build pic.:yes:

SDMAN 05-15-2008 07:44 AM

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Yikes....it took a whole lot of time to get thru this part, but the suspension is about 95%. The rear frame rails are moved in (~3.25" a side) and its time to perform the floorectomy on the 70 GTO to get the body onto this new platform. A few quick pics.

72blackbird 05-15-2008 09:00 AM

SDMAN,
Hardcore!!! The beauty of that GTO body is that it's got alot more room for wider wheel/tires than the Firebird. Any body pics yet?

Geno

tgvettes 05-15-2008 03:44 PM

Awesome chassi SDMAN
Hope to see it soon. I work in Chandler and live in Scottsdale.

Did you build the chassi yourself?

Tonny

SDMAN 05-15-2008 08:30 PM

Nah, Im not nearly qualified to weld on chassis. It started life as an Art Morrison Max-G frame and I had a local race car shop make a few 'tweaks' to it. Actually, it needed to be tweaked because I couldnt get it made the way I wanted directly from A/M. So I did the next best thing.

It worked out real well. I will be going back to the local shop for the floor work and the cage necessary for the NHRA certification. Originally I was just going to go with a 10.0 type setup, but Ive been assured that it will be considerably quicker than 10.0, so the next cert level is 8.50. Not really a big deal, as both certs require door bars and the cross bar in back of the rear seats. Those are the pieces that make daily use a PITA. The additional bars for the quicker cert are pretty much out of the way from the seats. I guess eventually Ill see how bad it is. Ill be using moly tubing, which can be smaller diameter than standard DOM, so maybe that will help a bit. Doubtful. Also, the shop doing the work said they can make the bars as 'unobtrusive' as possible. Whatever that means. Im pretty sure Ill be covering as much of it as I can with padding.

Im anxious to get the body on this thing. Cant wait to see it at the actual ride height with the tires tucked in and up. But that wont be until mid to late July. Also need to trial fit the one piece VFN front end. Gonna do that this weekend just to see how well we did in front tire placement. Might get a pic or two of that.

badmatt 05-15-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SDMAN (Post 149560)
Nah, Im not nearly qualified to weld on chassis. It started life as an Art Morrison Max-G frame and I had a local race car shop make a few 'tweaks' to it. Actually, it needed to be tweaked because I couldnt get it made the way I wanted directly from A/M. So I did the next best thing.

It worked out real well. I will be going back to the local shop for the floor work and the cage necessary for the NHRA certification. Originally I was just going to go with a 10.0 type setup, but Ive been assured that it will be considerably quicker than 10.0, so the next cert level is 8.50. Not really a big deal, as both certs require door bars and the cross bar in back of the rear seats. Those are the pieces that make daily use a PITA. The additional bars for the quicker cert are pretty much out of the way from the seats. I guess eventually Ill see how bad it is. Ill be using moly tubing, which can be smaller diameter than standard DOM, so maybe that will help a bit. Doubtful. Also, the shop doing the work said they can make the bars as 'unobtrusive' as possible. Whatever that means. Im pretty sure Ill be covering as much of it as I can with padding.

Im anxious to get the body on this thing. Cant wait to see it at the actual ride height with the tires tucked in and up. But that wont be until mid to late July. Also need to trial fit the one piece VFN front end. Gonna do that this weekend just to see how well we did in front tire placement. Might get a pic or two of that.

Swing outs?

SDMAN 05-16-2008 07:52 AM

I had swing outs on the previous version of this car. They pivoted at the bottom and when closed, had a pin at the top that kept them closed. That setup worked, but because of the pivot at the bottom and pin at the top, they rattled. A lot. No big deal on a race car. Open headers will mask almost all of the other noises.
Im looking into removeable door bars. Something that bolts in, tight, when it has to be there, and can be left in the shop when youre driving on the street. My chassis guy has some interesting ideas that sound good.

dhondagod 05-16-2008 10:07 AM

Try theses from PolyPerformance. (GREAT company to deal with):thumbsup:



http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...lamp-p-66.html



Car looks killer so far.



Chris:cool:

SDMAN 05-20-2008 10:11 PM

Thanks Chris. Ill let my chassis guy look those over. He's the expert on that safety/NHRA legal stuff. But I am also looking for a pedal set for brakes and clutch. I see where polyperformance.com has a pretty good selection. Im looking into the CNC brake stuff (not really familiar with them). Need a dual M/C setup with a B_bar for the brakes and a single for the clutch. They list exactly what I need in at least 4 pedal ratios. Baer says either the 6.2 or 6.8 ratio with their recommended M/C sizes for the monoblocks.

G-Body 05-21-2008 08:40 PM

Did i mention im loving this build like a Wholeee bunch wow:willy:

boonedog 05-23-2008 11:04 AM

def going to be sweet what size tires are you running in the front and rear?
Are you going coilover or air ride?

boonedog 05-23-2008 11:06 AM

sorry clicked back to the first page and anwsered all my questions.

SDMAN 08-06-2008 09:57 PM

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OK, now were getting somewhere (at last!!!!). The body is about to be introduced to the frame. Actually, these are old pics (about a week), and the body is on the frame. Oh man....does it look KILLER!!! The stance is just perfect. We even got those huge 18" mickeys all the way inside the rear wheelwells, and at full compression, there is .250" between the tire and well (no bump stops installed yet).

The ride height puts the top of the wheelwell opening dead even with the top of the rim both front and back. Its LLOOOWWWW. Ill get more pics soon. here is a taste.

SDMAN 08-09-2008 02:33 PM

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Here is a pic of the body on the frame showing the rear ride height. Until its sitting on the ground, its hard to really get a feel for how low it is, but measurements say about 6" lower than stock. Still working on the front end, but it should be rolling in a week. More pics to follow.

G-Body 08-09-2008 03:30 PM

Dude just so you know you are building my dream car if i could build any car money not an option even it would be this car nice to see it come together and not be out of my checkbook lol!
Congrats awesome ride!:bow:

SDMAN 08-09-2008 06:07 PM

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G-body....thanks. Im pretty happy with it so far. I realize it will photograph way better once it rolls (and looks like a car instead of a bunch of pieces). But for now....heres a few more.

455T/Akid 08-10-2008 12:47 PM

what kind of front & rear suspension are you running? btw the '70 GTO is the car I hope to get one day, it look's beautiful

SDMAN 08-10-2008 01:30 PM

Up front its all corvette C-5. Power rack, Strange double adj coil overs and sway bar. In the back is a 4-link with a watts. Also Strange D/A coil overs and a sway bar. Currently working out final sway bar sizes and spring rates.

tazzz2_ca 09-09-2008 05:07 AM

re rims
 
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Originally Posted by SDMAN (Post 118625)
Pic of the car in a former rendition. The newer version currently under construction is going to put the car in the weeds.

I'd sure like to know what that rim on the car currently is???? Can't tell from the angle, but it sure looks good from the pic...Please drop me a line at [email protected] if you wouldn't mind please...
Thanks,
Albert

SDMAN 10-10-2008 12:10 PM

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Rims currently on the car are Budnik Billets (Lateral). Here are a few recent pics.

tones2SS 10-10-2008 12:18 PM

WOW!!
That build is coming along very nicely.
can't wait to see her done. Love the stance and rear view of the car.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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