|
383 6spd 80Z Camaro EFI
Hi guys, I've been hanging out at Nasty Z for 3 years now when I bought my Camaro. Hell, I've been on the Beretta forums for even longer (yes, there are Beretta forums and they're pretty active actually).
I'm 22 and the Camaro is my real heavy-duty work in progress. Although, with the Beretta I have gone through and upgraded the entire suspension, dropped in a bigger engine with some bolt ons and revamped the interior. It completed the 1/4 in a blistering 17.1@79 when I bought it and now I have it down to 14.9@93. Really not bad for a car that is great in the snow and still gets me 30+ on the highway. On to the Camaro. So far I've built a ~400hp 355ci with Vortec heads and a decent cam and hooked it up to a 93-97 T56 with a Spec flywheel & clutch. I made my own 3" exhaust with an x-pipe & cutouts before 2.5" mufflers and tailpipes. I have M/T drag radials and Slide-A-Link traction bars to help it hook, because traction was pitiful before. Hotchkis front springs & swaybar along with poly bushings round out the suspension, and I have 12" disc brakes on the front with 11.5" disc on the 8.5" 10-bolt with 4.10 gears. I wedged the front subframe with solid mounts and welded in Alston connectors. I installed 4th-gen Camaro leather seats, console and ebrake lever, made my own dash bezel to house all my gauges and am in the process of converting all my lighting to LED. Also on the immediate to-do list is upgrading the electrical and installing my elec fan & water pump. This winter I also plan on painting the car and buying rolling stock. I've been building it little by little because the car is definitely a low budget build, and a lot of the parts I'm going with are GM stuff, but it runs good & works well. I've got tons of pics and info on my motortopia page (myspace for gearheads basically) and if you're curious about anything just ask. http://www.motortopia.com/garage/cars/woody2136 Here's a few teasers: 80 Camaro Z28 http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_100_5262.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_100_5276.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_100_5194.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_100_5077.jpg |
95 Beretta Z26
I have a Getrag 5spd to put in place of the slushbox and plan on upgrading the brakes with, get this, Subaru disc all the way around. Looking at my girlfriend's Legacy I think I can make it work with a little fabrication. It also needs a paint job but that's not a priority. http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_100_3956.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_100_4131.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_100_4011.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_100_4565.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...Thumbnail1.jpg |
Welcome aboard. :thumbsup: It's good to have more 2nd Gens around here.
|
Update:
I haven't posted anything on the Camaro lately, so here's an update. This winter I rewired the entire car. Battery in trunk with kill switch and remote solenoid, distribution blocks in the engine bay and relays on the high amp circuits, elec water pump and fan to free up more horsepower, new dash bezel with switches to control all my accessories, finally got my a/f and vacuum gauges hooked up and the shift light done. Interior is actually assembled and done. Switched to manual brakes with Wilwood calipers in the front. Went to a show yesterday and then got some decent pictures with the new camera and lens filters. I had my girl shoot a nice video of me pounding on it. Took it zero to redline 3rd gear, which according to gear ratios and my tire size should be 93mph. Seems about right since last year at the track I just hit 4th before the end and that was 101. Watching the video makes me grin ear to ear. haha http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoID=36237473 And on to the pics: http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_IMG_0409.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_IMG_0410.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_IMG_0417.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_IMG_0420.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_IMG_0426.jpg |
|
And some more pics from this winter:
http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_000_0013.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_000_0024.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...a5/diagram.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_000_0018.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_100_5342.jpg |
|
|
Very nice! Are you entertaining any plans of carving any corners or are you setting the cars up for straight line?
John |
Cool pics!!!! That 4th gen console looks right at home.
|
NICE!!!
I like the bezel. Looks good. The Beretta is a cool car. I had a '94 Z26, back in the day. Bought it brand new. Great car. Wish I still had it. Good luck with the build(s).:thumbsup: :cheers: |
Quote:
The Camaro has Hotchkis coils, kyb shocks, sfc's, g-braces, solid body mounts, and hd tierod sleeves, but everything else is still stock. I plan on 18x8.5 & 18x9.5 wheels with 255/45 & 295/45 NT555s and some good leafs & swaybars. |
Looks great I love the dash !
WAyne |
Scott's thread on garage journal brought me back over here after a long hiatus. Been busy the last couple years building a new car, buying a truck and then buying my first house... It won't take much to catch up on the Camaro since it has been a little neglected lately...
I have a new Moser 8.5" rear after I twisted the stock one at the strip in '08...and still no time slips I'm happy with yet. Best so far is a 13.51@106. I've since played with the carb and it feels better, but haven't had it back out to get numbers. I did get some good Pro-touring F-body leaf springs installed, and I have Hotchkis sway bars and 18x8.5 & 18x9.5 wheels in boxes ready to go. I put in a new AN-6 fuel system and upgraded to a digital MSD HEI ignition. http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_IMG_1239.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14..._1309_copy.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_IMG_1587.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_IMG_1726.jpg http://media.motortopia.com/files/14...l_IMG_1745.jpg http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...ff106f3b1a.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg Immediate plans are for tires, with hopefully OBD1 GM EFI following and paint. |
I think I'll start a new thread for my 91 Beretta build. It accelerates, turns & stops better than new, so that should could right? haha
|
Some how it's been another 2 years with little progress...amazing how time flies.
I got the new rolling stock on and I'm happy with the fitment. A little body massaging and paint are in line next...as well as a little bit more suspension drop. http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/.../blackblue.jpg I also decided to get rid of the 15s for good. One of the stock wheels is going on my wall in the garage as a hose reel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn3YT...ature=youtu.be http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...30383022_n.jpg http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...92642046_n.jpg |
progress is good. :yes: I moved this to updates.
|
I bought a used EFI kit that came in today, I'm psyched. Everything looks good. Accel DFI with all wiring and computers: Gen7 with SFI and Alpha-N fueling. Even has the o2. And my low-pro Eddy TB linkage clears the rails with no spacer. (Sold off the shiny one...I don't like shiny). Drop base air cleaner also clears everything fine. I had to use a 1" spacer on the drop base to clear my fuel inlet on the carb, and the TB is 3/4" shorter than the carb, so I might even end up with more hood clearance with the single plane manifold than I had with the air gap! Bye bye stupid carburetor.
http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg Current setup with the airgap & carb: http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg I also bought a pair of AFR 195 CNC heads and roller rockers to make the swap from my carb Vortec intake to traditonal SBC EFI manifold. Unfortunately the heads were not the Eliminators, they were the old style. But I got a good enough deal on them that I got my money back after I sold them. Tony at AFR told me the older style would surrender about 30hp to the Eliminators on a 500hp engine. I was figuring maybe 450hp out of my 355, and it proabably would have been more like 430. Not even worth it when I'm making 400 now. So, since I'm in the market for new heads and 195s don't really cost any less than 210s or 220s...I'm contemplating a build from scratch. I figure if I can sell the current 355 carb to pan with dizzy and fuel pump included, a nice 421ci forged Dart SHP short block would be badass. Skip white has a crazy cheap price on them. 421ci with a healthy roller cam and AFR heads? Should be an easy 550-575hp. Could even crack 600 if I want to get a little crazy with the cam & compression. http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBC-CHEVY-42...&forceRpt=true http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/ROB/TEST.jpg |
Sold the Accel manifold & rails and bought a Hurricane manifold & rails. (Same carb height, but longer runners for better midrange.) It's a ProComp and the casting kinda looks like crap, but I'll clean it up. Came with ugly red anodized rails, but that's nothing a little oven cleaner can't fix. Photoshopped them black and I like the look.
Air cleaner height is actually exactly the same as the current AirGap since the TB is shorter and spacer is not needed. I've got 1" to play with to the cowl. http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg |
:thumbsup:
|
Sold the 355 to another member on NastyZ28. Glad to see it headed for another Camaro. Also found some good quality used parts on NastyZ28 for myself. I'm loving the LS craze...it makes SBC stuff cheap! Picked up a fully forged 383 short block, studded 4-bolt mains with Edelbrock roller cam (232/[email protected] .575/.584" 112) and a pair of AFR 195 Eliminators for not much more than I got out of my complete 355. Throw the EFI on and it should make an easy 500hp. And it saves me a few thousand vs building a 421 from scratch.
Since the car is apart now, I'm going to go through it completely and finally do the paint job and detail work that has been waiting. This winter I have some Beretta projects to get to before the Camaro rebirth, but I'm hoping to have the Camaro done in a year or so. More power, EFI, new paint...will be like a new car! http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/cars...Thumbnail1.jpg |
Needs more powa!
|
Already got more than that Vette, Craig! :yes:
|
Got my regulator to plumb in the fuel rail. Gonna feed the front and return out the back. I read the injectors are a little more consistent if you Y the feed to the front and link the rears of the rails to return.
I don't think I posted any pics of the valve covers the wife bought me for Christmas. I like to just stare at it. This thing is gonna be fun... http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...0/IMG_8150.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...6/IMG_8155.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...3/IMG_8154.jpg |
No updates in forever...actually just got it in the garage a couple months ago. I finally started the body work on it...modified the core support and bumper brackets to work with my wedged subframe and fit some 2010 Camaro side markers in the fender. I like the style a lot better than the original one and it fits the lines pretty nicely. Body has a couple little rust spots but not bad at all. Very pleased there. Bought patches and an OEM fender to replace the POS aftermarket one it had.
Gonna redo some of the wiring while I have it apart. Bought weatherpack connectors and bulkheads to get it sorted out. Want to keep it as clean as possible since there will be an EFI harness going in too. And I've pretty much decided on ditching the Accel setup and going with a Holley HP ECM & harness. The used Accel kit I bought it pretty hacked...and not that user-friendly. Mocked up the final ride height by popping the springs out and throwing some blocks under the axle due to lack of weight currently. It tucks the tire just how I want and leaves me with between 4.5" - 5" of ground clearance at the lowest spots. Hopefully that's all I need! haha http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...4/IMG_8871.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...7/IMG_8882.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...e/IMG_8909.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...d/IMG_8916.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...d/IMG_8963.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...2/IMG_8971.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...1/IMG_9008.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...a/IMG_9022.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...0/IMG_9043.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...2/IMG_9047.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...7/IMG_9071.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...9/IMG_9078.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...a/IMG_9082.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...1/IMG_9080.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...0/IMG_9090.jpg |
Was just reading this over on Nasty. Nice to see ya here.....Nothing wrong with more power!!!
|
Nice set up. Who's intake is that your using? I like the side marker lights you used they look nice. Something you probably already thought of , supporting the regulator. Vibration would make short work of the AN fitting. Its looking great.
|
Quote:
You're probably right about the regulator. I'll play with placement some when I get the engine in the car. |
Quote:
I had a '94 Z26 Beratta. I loved that car. A fun little cruiser, even though it was FWD. lol It was my daily driver back then. |
Sadly, the black Beretta is no more...killed by road salt. But I parted it to build a new roller a few years back that is pretty nice. I'll post a build thread on it some time.
http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...c/IMG_8561.jpg |
Ss Ftw!
|
After a little inner fender surgery, the tires clear on the bump stops when straight. Obviously they don't clear at steering lock, but I don't know how you would bottom the car out completely at steering lock... Couple pics here show how much room I added by rolling the lip and slightly tweaking it out in relation to the stock inner fender. Still have to finish closing it in, and adding a rail to the outer so the inner can bolt to it. It might be a little ugly, but isn't visible. Haven't decided if I will weld that part, or maybe use the 3M panel bond to keep from warping anything.
Also installed my Aerocatch hood pins and a removable tow hook to keep from wrecking the front air dam. http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...f/IMG_9117.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...a/IMG_9119.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...3/IMG_9128.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...e/IMG_9131.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...f/IMG_9143.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...e/IMG_9142.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...2/IMG_9141.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...f/IMG_9140.jpg |
Nice 80s Z. Cant wait to see more on this ride good work.
|
Finally got back on the car recently. In mockup mode now getting some things sorted out. Plasma cut a plate for the firewall and studded for the 3rd-gen column and stock gas pedal. Keeping visible fasteners to a minimum.
Got my Holley HP from Keith at CustomWorks and getting the wire routing planned. Also doing a little sheet metal work deleting the heater box and fabbing a better 6spd hump to replace the cobbed hole from when I was like 19. My SpinTechs will be here shortly, so I can finalize the floor mockup and get this thing on a buddy's rotisserie. http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...4/IMG_9497.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...3/IMG_9502.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...7/IMG_9513.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...0/IMG_9519.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...3/IMG_9504.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...6/IMG_9516.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...0/IMG_9545.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...3/IMG_9524.jpg http://www.motortopia.com/files/141/...4/IMG_9532.jpg |
Quote:
Did you happen to buy this EFI set up from JCG??? It looks like an old one of mine.... |
|
JCG sold it to another shop and I got it from them, so yes, it's the same one. 36lb injectors right?
I actually sold some of that stuff off and I'm using Holley software now...so it's all been around the block quite a bit. haha |
The minute I saw your picture posted up I knew it was my old one...
It's made the rounds! Started life at Kinsler in Michigan... to Seattle... To So Cal... to somewhere else... to you in New York... I finally gave up on the Accel Dual Sync distributors to run sequential. I was "too early" on their stuff and those distributors caused me nothing but issues. System ran much better in batch mode. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
I believe in having "inventory"..... and spares... I'm not the "budget" guy. Back in the day it was hard to find parts for EFI (or anyone that knew anything about anything for that matter). I probably still have parts and pieces for that thing... I know I still have some of the blue anodized linkage.. etc. If parts are uncommon - I buy TWO.... I switched that throttle body set up for an 8 stack... and I swapped out the Accel crap at the first chance I got. That stuff ran okay - but there was (Might still be) the worst supported stuff in the history of man. If you wanted to know something - you had to post it in a tech forum - and then keep checking back to see if they bothered to respond. |
| All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:50 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Lateral-g.net