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Flash68 01-02-2008 11:56 PM

Project Vertigo update
 
I realized I kept adding pics and updates to my car in the paint/body section and so I wanted to move it to the right place. (Thanks Anthony - HA!)

Anyway, here's a quick recap of what it is and what's in it, along with pics. It just finished paint a week ago and should be back in my builder's shop in Carson City, NV by end of this week to begin installing all the goodies. Should be adding pics over next couple months til it's completed.

68 Camaro w/ all new sheetmetal
406 w/ Eagle crank and rods (built by Jody Bernard - Camcojb)
Ross blower pistons
Ported Victor Jr. heads
Holley Stealth Ram
FAST EFI
ProCharger D1SC 10-14 lbs boost
Treadstone intercooler
Cyclone Rods custom radiator w/ dual fans
Custom stainless stepped headers - 1-3/4" to 1-7/8"
TKO 600
McLeod RST Street Twin clutch
AirRide Air Bar 4-link
QA1 coilovers all 4 corners
AirRide upper/lower control arms
Unisteer rack & pinion
Wilwood 13"/12" brakes
Currie 9" rear 3.70 or 3.89 gears
custom minitub
Esajian Konker wheels - 18x9.5 and 18x12
Nitto 555 275s front, 555R drag radial rear 335s
Marquez stuff
ISS seats
Renderings by both Carter Hickman and Ben Hermance.


Hermance
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_21_full.jpg

Hickman
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_28_full.jpg

The beginning
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_26_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_27_full.jpg

The Jody Bernard-built blown 406 ~700 rwhp
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_29_full.jpg

Flash68 01-03-2008 12:10 AM

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...033_8_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_30_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_31_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_32_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_33_full.jpg

Flash68 01-03-2008 12:13 AM

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_13_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_14_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_22_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_24_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_25_full.jpg

Flash68 01-03-2008 12:14 AM

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_15_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_16_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_18_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_19_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...33_20_full.jpg

awr68 01-03-2008 12:20 AM

Lookin hot!! Love the renderings and the build...congrats on getting out of paint jail!! :thumbsup:

awr68 01-03-2008 12:39 AM

I vote for the center stripe too...but would be tempted to leave it off the deck lid.

Blown353 01-03-2008 12:41 AM

Hey, I recognize that engine!

Word of advice before it gets you in trouble or leaves you stranded... replace that power steering bracket. The idler pulley likes to blow up v-belts with alarming regularity. Been there, done that, and trashed several belts with that same bracket & idler pulley setup.

Flash68 01-03-2008 12:42 AM

Yeah, it's funny about that old Chevy... it's one of the biggest reasons I was locked up in paint jail for so damn long! LOL

We really need to nail that stance for sure. The front 275s have already been mocked up with the stock subframe and it fits good so far. Should be plenty of room in back for the 335s. Measuring for the rear end/axles next week.

Yeah I am now sure if I am gonna do the center stripe or just the small SS stripe. Still torn on that and I like them both....

Chris, I talked to Anthony awhile back about possibly trying to get my car up to you to finish paint/body but luckily my builder and painter worked it out. You were probably overwhelmed anyway! :D

Can't wait to the Cuda you are doing next.

Flash68 01-03-2008 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown353
Hey, I recognize that engine!

Word of advice before it gets you in trouble or leaves you stranded... replace that power steering bracket. The idler pulley likes to blow up v-belts with alarming regularity. Been there, done that, and trashed several belts with that same bracket & idler pulley setup.


Thanks for the heads-up... what would you recommend for a better bracket setup?

Blown353 01-03-2008 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68
Thanks for the heads-up... what would you recommend for a better bracket setup?

I built my own. It uses the same ATI spacers & pulley and fits in the same location. I made a new plate and used a turnbuckle from the lower portion of the water pump to apply belt tension, then you tighten the 2 bolts to the front of the block to lock it down.

I have a pic here where you can see it.

http://home.comcast.net/~procharged6.../psbracket.jpg

Lower bolt hole is the pivot, the upper bolt is the slot for adjustment. It has a somewhat narrow adjustment range but with the right size belt you only need it to move a little bit to achieve proper tension.

Haven't blown up a single belt with the new bracket. With the ATI setup with the idler pulley I would get about 400-500 miles of life out of a v-belt before they would start to split badly; first high RPM zing in that condition would result in a grenaded belt.

I still have the CAD drawing of it. You can print it out to scale and use that for a template or CNC it if you want to go that route. Eventually I'll remove mine and lighten it up some with a few speed holes & pockets, it's way beefier than it needs to be. I only made it out of 3/4" aluminum plate because that's what the ATI bracket is and keeping it the same thickness allowed me to reuse their spacers & pulley.

tyoneal 01-03-2008 01:03 AM

Does the name Vertigo, come from the fact of taking some different aspects from the 68 and 69 Camaro's?

It had me confused a minute but the 69 tail lights look good on the 68.

Very Creative and cool.:thumbsup:

Ty

Flash68 01-03-2008 01:07 AM

Wow, that is beefy. Nice piece.

I will PM you to discuss that template. I think I would be interested in having one of those made. Thanks a ton.

Flash68 01-03-2008 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyoneal
Does the name Vertigo, come from the fact of taking some different aspects from the 68 and 69 Camaro's?

It had me confused a minute but the 69 tail lights look good on the 68.

Very Creative and cool.:thumbsup:

Ty

Hey Ty,

Nope, Vertigo has a personal meaning for me. About 3 years ago I came down with some strange inner ear virus that literally had me spinning for months off and on with Vertigo. No cure. No antibiotics. Just had to deal with it. Pretty miserable time in my life. So this is to help me never forget (not that I would!). Ha.

Yeah I was wondering who would notice the Marquez 69 lights cut out for the 68. We don't think we have seen anyone else do that. We told Pascual about it at SEMA when we saw him and he really liked the idea. And we got rid of the trunk keyhole there (electric kit) and centered the gas cap hole for a cleaner look.

Thanks for the compliment!

Flash68 01-03-2008 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown353
I built my own. It uses the same ATI spacers & pulley and fits in the same location. I made a new plate and used a turnbuckle from the lower portion of the water pump to apply belt tension, then you tighten the 2 bolts to the front of the block to lock it down.

I have a pic here where you can see it.

http://home.comcast.net/~procharged6.../psbracket.jpg

Lower bolt hole is the pivot, the upper bolt is the slot for adjustment. It has a somewhat narrow adjustment range but with the right size belt you only need it to move a little bit to achieve proper tension.

Haven't blown up a single belt with the new bracket. With the ATI setup with the idler pulley I would get about 400-500 miles of life out of a v-belt before they would start to split badly; first high RPM zing in that condition would result in a grenaded belt.

I still have the CAD drawing of it. You can print it out to scale and use that for a template or CNC it if you want to go that route. Eventually I'll remove mine and lighten it up some with a few speed holes & pockets, it's way beefier than it needs to be. I only made it out of 3/4" aluminum plate because that's what the ATI bracket is and keeping it the same thickness allowed me to reuse their spacers & pulley.

Hey, tried to send you PM but said your inbox is full.

XcYZ 01-03-2008 06:45 AM

I think the single stripe is cool. I have a friend with a '70 Camaro with a single stripe like that, unique yet works with the car.

Going to be a killer car. :thumbsup:

Flash68 01-03-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XcYZ
I think the single stripe is cool. I have a friend with a '70 Camaro with a single stripe like that, unique yet works with the car.

Going to be a killer car. :thumbsup:

Thanks Scott!

Flash68 01-08-2008 04:26 PM

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...h68/image5.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...h68/image6.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...h68/image4.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...h68/image3.jpg

awr68 01-08-2008 06:49 PM

Looking good!!
 
Bolting on the wheels...now that's fun!! :unibrow:

Flash68 01-09-2008 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awr68
Bolting on the wheels...now that's fun!! :unibrow:

Going up there next week for the first time in months to actually see the car and paint in person. Apparently the camera phone pix don't do it justice!

Gotta dial in the rear end measurements to get the tire/wheel fitment just right.

Alex396ss 01-09-2008 02:10 AM

One of the bestlooking 68´s I´ve ever seen!

:captain:

Alex

awr68 01-09-2008 07:09 AM

That should be an awesome trip...take lots of pics!! :thumbsup:

Flash68 01-09-2008 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex396ss
One of the bestlooking 68´s I´ve ever seen!

:captain:

Alex

Whoa.. that's a pretty strong statement, Alex! Thank you. :)

Let's hope you and I still think that when it's completed! LOL

Flash68 01-09-2008 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awr68
That should be an awesome trip...take lots of pics!! :thumbsup:

Absolutely! Got a new digi cam for Xmas, and just waiting for this damn nasty weather to finally clear up. Tahoe are has been getting hammered, and I need nice roads to take my new M3 up there. Looking forward to the drive up there in that car for some canyon carving. :)

67turbostang 01-09-2008 03:43 PM

cant wait to see the progress pics:thumbsup:

camcojb 01-09-2008 04:40 PM

wow, not sure how I missed this. The car looks great and I know the motor runs great. Don only lost one belt with that setup as we found an industrial belt that seemed to hold up much better. However, Troys advice and solution is a good one, and I recommend it if you can duplicate it.

Good luck, I'm impressed! :hail:

Jody

mdprovee 01-09-2008 10:34 PM

Car is looking great, like the color. Keep us updated.

Flash68 01-09-2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camcojb
wow, not sure how I missed this. The car looks great and I know the motor runs great. Don only lost one belt with that setup as we found an industrial belt that seemed to hold up much better. However, Troys advice and solution is a good one, and I recommend it if you can duplicate it.

Good luck, I'm impressed! :hail:

Jody


Hey, thanks Jody. Can't believe it's been over a year now since I picked up that motor at your house. Wow.

So, did you guys include that "industrial" belt with the parts that came with that motor? I am gonna try to have that bracket made. Unless Troy wants to make me one for a fee... :unibrow:

I was going to get ahold of you sooner or later about tuning this thing once it's all ready to fire (for compensation, of course). My guy has a lot less experience than you with these setups, and since you built this motor, you obviously know it. I will send you a PM or email soon to discuss it if you don't mind. I have to drive back to Bay Area from Tahoe anyway so you're not too far out of the way.

cheers,
Dave

Flash68 01-09-2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdprovee
Car is looking great, like the color. Keep us updated.


Thanks Mike!

camcojb 01-10-2008 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68
Hey, thanks Jody. Can't believe it's been over a year now since I picked up that motor at your house. Wow.

So, did you guys include that "industrial" belt with the parts that came with that motor? I am gonna try to have that bracket made. Unless Troy wants to make me one for a fee... :unibrow:

I was going to get ahold of you sooner or later about tuning this thing once it's all ready to fire (for compensation, of course). My guy has a lot less experience than you with these setups, and since you built this motor, you obviously know it. I will send you a PM or email soon to discuss it if you don't mind. I have to drive back to Bay Area from Tahoe anyway so you're not too far out of the way.

cheers,
Dave

pretty sure the belt is in there. The tune in the FAST ran great with that engine in Don's car, so it should fire right up and be happy for you too. Then just do any fine tuning necessary, but probably won't need much. Let me know.

Jody

Flash68 01-10-2008 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camcojb
pretty sure the belt is in there. The tune in the FAST ran great with that engine in Don's car, so it should fire right up and be happy for you too. Then just do any fine tuning necessary, but probably won't need much. Let me know.

Jody


Yeah okay I remember you saying it has a really good base tune and should work pretty good. Could always do a dyno tune later to really maximize.

Would adding the intercooler or larger headers change anything for the tune?

thanks!

whytry 01-11-2008 09:22 AM

Car looks awesome! Nice work.

You have EFI, I'm jealous.:bow:

Alex396ss 03-12-2008 09:21 AM

Any updates or pics?
It´s been a while since the last ones, lol ;)

Alex

Flash68 03-12-2008 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex396ss (Post 140143)
Any updates or pics?
It´s been a while since the last ones, lol ;)

Alex


Hey Alex, thanks for checking in! Someone has to stay on top of this car! LOL

I do have a few pics, but am going up in 2 weeks to take more and should have some good progress pics as it is nearing the final stage. Been toying around with my M3 in the meantime and even test drove an 01 Porsche 996TT today. Gotta do something to keep my mind off the Camaro! :D

Spiffav8 03-13-2008 12:07 AM

I'm with Alex. Let's see what you've got for now. :D

Flash68 03-13-2008 12:25 AM

You ask and you shall receive. :D


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f.../carson014.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f.../carson004.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f.../carson010.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f.../carson011.jpg

awr68 03-13-2008 12:54 AM

Lookig good!! :thumbsup:

tones2SS 03-17-2008 04:33 PM

WOW!!!!
not only does she look mean, she's got the power to back it up.
VERY NICE!!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Denvervet 03-17-2008 07:00 PM

I like that color. Looks sharp. BTW I think you're maybe missing a header pipe or two.

Flash68 03-18-2008 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tones2SS (Post 140932)
WOW!!!!
not only does she look mean, she's got the power to back it up.
VERY NICE!!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks man! :thumbsup:

Flash68 03-18-2008 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denvervet (Post 140951)
I like that color. Looks sharp. BTW I think you're maybe missing a header pipe or two.

Yeah we are experimenting with a new exhaust scavenging theory - one pipe her cyclinder head. Should be sweet! :D

thanks for the kind words.


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