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Steve1968LS2 03-16-2008 09:37 PM

Penny gets thrashed at the autocross... video
 
Hey, I took Larry from PT.com for a ride in my car at the Good Guys event. We shot some video off the side of the car.

He put together a cool video compliation of the day.. enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoovtq-O--Q

Lenie 03-16-2008 10:11 PM

Excellent video, thanks Steve.:yes:

Bulldog68 03-17-2008 12:22 AM

Very cool. :thumbsup:

J2SpeedandCustom 03-17-2008 05:02 AM

That's awesome Steve!!!! :thumbsup:

MODO Innovations 03-17-2008 05:12 AM

Good clean fun. Thanks for posting.

slck6t9 03-17-2008 05:25 AM

WOW Steve that looked awesome. So what was the fastest time?

Alex396ss 03-17-2008 05:26 AM

Nice! :thumbsup:

Alex

XcYZ 03-17-2008 05:57 AM

Cool video, Steve. :cheers:

MarkM66 03-17-2008 06:45 AM

Very nice. :thumbsup:

Is there a list of times?

TEDDYS CAMARO 03-17-2008 08:34 AM

Very cool video!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bow: :willy: :lateral:

darren@ridetech 03-17-2008 08:36 AM

The guys are flying back in today. I'll see if I can get a list of times from them.

wiedemab 03-17-2008 08:51 AM

Great Vid. I'm jealous, it's freezing cold in Indiana still! Damn Midwest!

Spiffav8 03-17-2008 09:03 AM

Looks like a fun event. Kind of a short track though. I was surprised to see Liz in the #13 Camaro with a faster time than Rupp. :lol:

Dude you got beat by a girl! :rofl:

Steve1968LS2 03-17-2008 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 140888)
Looks like a fun event. Kind of a short track though. I was surprised to see Liz in the #13 Camaro with a faster time than Rupp. :lol:

Dude you got beat by a girl! :rofl:

Liz's fastest time was 18.41 ... my fastest time was 18.31...

Take that sucka! Oh, and she was on sticky tires.. So, I win :woot:

But, she is most likely a better driver, she does it more while I'm sitting on my ass writing stories..

Low 17s were considered VERY good times for the musclecars.. Air Ride cars and the DSE Camaro were in that area. The CPP Nova (yellow one) and Penny were in the mid 17s.. The Air Ride guys were very helpful with ways I can tune my suspension.

Oh, the BFG tires I put on performed very well.. I was surprised how grippy they were.

Random shot of me wheeling the car:


http://picsorban.com/upload/penautox.jpg

NvrDun71 03-17-2008 09:36 AM

We need some info and pics on the Yellow CPP Nova

Steve1968LS2 03-17-2008 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NvrDun71 (Post 140896)
We need some info and pics on the Yellow CPP Nova

It's owned by CPP.

There's a story on it in the new Nova Classics magazine (on newsstands).. Has a TCI front sub and rear system. Big Wilwood brakes, etc. Nice car and it handles well, they have been busy tuning the heck out of the suspension and are really getting it dialed in.

James OLC 03-17-2008 09:58 AM

Very cool Steve.:thumbsup: Nice to see you wailing on it.

Why the tire change?

Steve1968LS2 03-17-2008 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by reboot04 (Post 140900)
Very cool Steve.:thumbsup: Nice to see you wailing on it.

Why the tire change?

No R-compound tires allowed for the Editors Challenge, so BFG sent me over a sweet set of KDWs.. nice tires!

dave96dcm 03-17-2008 10:57 AM

Wow that is rediculiousley small. I guess I'm sopiled up here we run a 80 - 100 second auto-x and you reach 60 - 70 mph.

Musclerodz 03-17-2008 11:23 AM

Steve, did you have any push? Looked like it in a couple shots. I am amazed at how flat the Air Ride cars were going through the course. Thanks for posting.

Mike

Steve1968LS2 03-17-2008 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 140910)
Steve, did you have any push? Looked like it in a couple shots. I am amazed at how flat the Air Ride cars were going through the course. Thanks for posting.

Mike

Yea, some push. Mostly because my front tires are too narrow (compared to the rears). But the suspension was very compliant and it let the rears force the front through the turn.

My rims will soon be 18x10 and I have some 275s to put on.. maybe 285s.. That should help.

I also need to tweak my spring rates and bar. She will get there, even at this stage Penny is pretty competative. I hope to improve on her over the summer.

brownz 03-17-2008 03:43 PM

man i had fun watching that video thanks Steve:thumbsup:

skatinjay27 03-17-2008 05:26 PM

sweet vid steve!!!!!
it does look like you need to stiffen up the front springs though...it looked good through the corners but it woulnt hurt to be a bit more level.

Steve1968LS2 03-17-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by skatinjay27 (Post 140945)
sweet vid steve!!!!!
it does look likr you need to stiffen up the front spring though...it looked good through the corners but it woulnt hurt to be a bit more level.

I agree.. 450s in there now.. thinking 525.

On Sunday the Air Ride guys upped the comp and rebound which make the car much better. Even with the body leaned over the tires stayed on the pavement, I'm sure most of that reason is the no-bind deal with the three link.

More front tire will help also.

final cut 03-17-2008 05:47 PM

Steve, great video! Thanks for throwing in a few pics of the Fairlane. I was going to introduce myself , but you were pretty busy , your car looks real good on the track.

lowboy 03-17-2008 06:00 PM

Would raising the watts link up one notch help w/body roll? What about a rear swaybar? I have the LD 3-link on my 69 Camaro as well (not running yet) and I'm debating on installing a rear bar. I shot Mark an email awhile ago inquiring about a rear bar for his set up and haven't gotten a response yet. Do you know if there is a rear bar assembly that will work w/3-link?

Thanks..

cmraman 03-17-2008 06:11 PM

Spell check Steve. Shouldn't the title read Goodguys, not GoogGuys?:D

skatinjay27 03-17-2008 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 140946)
I agree.. 450s in there now.. thinking 525.

On Sunday the Air Ride guys upped the comp and rebound which make the car much better. Even with the body leaned over the tires stayed on the pavement, I'm sure most of that reason is the no-bind deal with the three link.

More front tire will help also.

do you have a adjustable splined type front sway bar? so you could bmake the bar rate harder? cause i seen car perform great with the whole soft spring/big bar set-up.

didnt you go down in spring rate after the accident?
im installing 700# in my car right now... but then again ive got a iron block sbc...

mazspeed 03-17-2008 07:12 PM

Nice cars out there and great job Steve. I wish I could have gone. That is a lame autocross track though. I take it, it was not a N.A.S.A or a S.C.C.A track? More of a weekend proving ground? Still cool to see all those muscle cars on the track. Come up on the 3rd weekend of May to the Duel at DeAnza.

Steve68 03-17-2008 07:21 PM

So it's becoming true the 18x12 are too big for the rears, smaller rims here I come,

Brigzee 03-17-2008 07:32 PM

That is what it is all about. Great video and pics.

bill amsley 03-17-2008 07:44 PM

super cool looks like a blast

Steve1968LS2 03-17-2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve68 (Post 140964)
So it's becoming true the 18x12 are too big for the rears, smaller rims here I come,


It's always been true.. and they are not TOO big.. the front 255s are too small. Oh, and we are building cool street cars.. not race cars :)

Lots of fast cars running 335/275 though.. It also has a lot to do with chassis set-up.

parsonsj 03-18-2008 05:47 AM

Nicely done Steve! Congrats on the event!

Quote:

do you have a adjustable splined type front sway bar? so you could bmake the bar rate harder? cause i seen car perform great with the whole soft spring/big bar set-up.
For a car that pushes, you want a softer front bar, or a stiffer rear bar. And Steve's right: not enough front tire. It's always the limiting factor on our cars.

jp

Steve68 03-18-2008 06:54 AM

I'm done changing my car, for now I'm staying with the stock front sub, I'm more into finishing the car than tearing it apart for a change,

I'm limited to a 18x8.5 with a 245 or a 255,

dave96dcm 03-18-2008 10:10 AM

A rear bar would make a huge difference for the better on that car.

Rybar 03-18-2008 01:10 PM

Nice vid Steve, looks like you had fun driving the car. :thumbsup:

Stuart Adams 03-18-2008 01:48 PM

Steve drove it hard. I'm sure with time and a little tweaking it will be better. Very nice car and sounds great also. :thumbsup:

Stuart Adams 03-18-2008 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazspeed (Post 140961)
Nice cars out there and great job Steve. I wish I could have gone. That is a lame autocross track though. I take it, it was not a N.A.S.A or a S.C.C.A track? More of a weekend proving ground? Still cool to see all those muscle cars on the track. Come up on the 3rd weekend of May to the Duel at DeAnza.

Air ride ran it well. It was popular with fans. There are a million more safety issues with higher speeds and the fans would not be as close to the action. After all it is a car show by nature, not a race. Sure added to the show. The whole track was easily visible by the spectators, which made it fun. I'm sure the vendors in the PT arena are loving($) it. Good time to be selling parts and services, IMO.

Steve1968LS2 03-18-2008 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Adams (Post 141075)
Air ride ran it well. It was popular with fans. There are a million more safety issues with higher speeds and the fans would not be as close to the action. After all it is a car show by nature, not a race. Sure added to the show. The whole track was easily visible by the spectators, which made it fun. I'm sure the vendors in the PT arena are loving($) it. Good time to be selling parts and services, IMO.

Yep... this was a car show, not a track day. HUNDREDS of spectators got a taste of the action and because of the design we were able to give rides to those people in attendance.

I can't tell you how many cute girls hopped into Penny for a lap or two. This was GREAT for our hobby since a bunch of people at a "car show" got exposed to cool cars getting used instead of parked in a static display.

Also, because of the track helmets weren't required which meant that anyone could take thier car around the track and again, it made it possible to take riders.

A S.C.C.A guy was there teching the cars and I'm sure he helped lay out the track. It was a blast to drive and sure beat standing around all day with a polish rag.


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