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scherp69 04-01-2008 08:38 PM

Project 'Overtime': Pro-Touring 68 Acadian (Nova) with L92 swap
 
So I thought I would finally do a build thread on my car. It's a 68 Acadian that I orginally bought for $700. When I got it, it was white with black racing stripes. I fixed the car up on a pizza shop manager's wage. I had it painted cherry red, rebuild the 350 and th350 and put on 15" cragar rims with BFGoodrich tires. Now that I'm a cop and make way more money than I did back then, I'm doing the car again...but the way I want to. My plans are as follows:

Pro Touring theme

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d..._Designs-2.jpg

Suspension, brakes and tires:

18" New Gen Splitters, polished lip and brushed centers. 305-30-18 in the rear and 245-35-18 in the front.
Speed Tech Performance subframe with Speed Tech high clearance tubular control arms.
Speed Tech 1.25" solid sway bar.
Unisteer rack and pinion kit
Ridetech single adjustable coil overs
Wilwood 6 piston calipers with 12.2" rotors
Prodigy bar rear suspension (airbar with adjustable arms) with Ridetech single adjustable coil overs
Moser M9 housing
Moser 31 spline axles
Strange Pro Nodular centre section with 3.70 gears and half billet posi
Wilwood 4 piston calipers with 12.2" rotors

Drivetrain:

LS3 6.2L crate motor. Hope to be around 550 hp.
Speartech ECU with DBW
Comp Cams camshaft: 226/234 .598”/.612” 114LSA custom cam using EPS on intake and LXL lobes on the exhaust.
LS3 intake with LS3 ported and polished throttle body
Speed Tech Performance / Stainless Works long tube polished headers.
Wegner Motorsports polished diamond cut serpentine kit
Tremec TKO600 with MGW shifter
Monster stage 3 clutch

Interior:

Flaming River polished tilt steering column
Flaming River Waterfall leather steering wheel
2005 GTO leather power bucket seats in front and GTO rear seats
Custom console with 7" LCD screen
Thunder Road gauge cluster
Speedhut gauges
Vintage Air Gen IV air conditions
Billet Specialties air conditions louvers

Body:

New sheet metal includes:
Goodmark: quarter panels, inner rear wheel wells, deck filler panel
Auto Metal Direct: 2" cowl hood, inner fender wells, rear cross rail, rear tail light panel, quarter panel end caps, door skins
DSE deep tubs
Firewall has been completely smoothed
Paint will be House of Kolor's apple red with black base coat

Stereo:

JL Audio stereo (haven't decided what but will be big)

More to come, but in the meantime here's some pics:

Here's what the car looked like before I started tearing into it again.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture018.jpg

Here's the car as it sits today

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0016-2.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0017-1.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0018-1.jpg

scherp69 04-01-2008 08:40 PM

Here's some of the goodies I got today :yes::)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0020-1.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0021-1.jpg
DSE Deep tubs
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0023-2.jpg

scherp69 04-01-2008 08:40 PM

Moser M9 with back brace and G-Bar ready
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0028-1.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0037-1.jpg
AirRide suspension (same as a G-bar)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0038-1.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...9/PICT0054.jpg

scherp69 04-01-2008 08:41 PM

Wilwood brakes
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...9/PICT0049.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...9/PICT0051.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...9/PICT0052.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...9/PICT0053.jpg
Hydraboost system
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...9/PICT0055.jpg

scherp69 04-01-2008 08:41 PM

I've had these for a while already, but these are the rims I have
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...9/Foose18s.jpg

I hope to get working on the car next week as the wife and daughter will be gone for 4 days. I will be living in the shop. Will update as I go. I really need to say thanks to Frank and Lisa at Prodigy Customs and www.gpsuperstore.com for the great deals. Frank also went out of his way to get all the brackets welded to the M9 so I didn't have to screw it up trying to set the pinion angle. Thanks again Frank.

ProdigyCustoms 04-01-2008 09:24 PM

Oh that M9 is sexy. You know you got the first one we have done! It is going to be real close on shock / spring clearance. I think a empty housing test would be prudent. Glad everything showed up OK, you still have one more box of brake cables, hoses, etc coming. It is shipping from us tommorrow. Maybe we should ship that straight to your place?

Thanks for the orders. You know where I am if you need me.

Bulldog68 04-01-2008 11:58 PM

Nice project. I read your backstory and got a little nostalgic. I worked for 6 years at a pizza restaurant before finishing up college and becoming a cop here in California. Now it's been a little over 5 years working and I'm still not as far into my project(s) as you! Guess I need some more overtime... :D

XcYZ 04-02-2008 06:50 AM

Kick ass! :woot:

scherp69 04-04-2008 09:19 AM

Thanks for the comments guys. Maybe I should call the 'overtime build' as that's what's paying for it. Work a few shifts....buy another part. Work a few more shifts...buy some more. Hopefully I will have some more pics next week as I plan on hitting the shop for a few days.

scherp69 04-11-2008 02:20 PM

Today I was able to get the G-Bar/Air Ride rear suspension mocked up. It took some cursing and swearing, but not too much. Now I can get this thing as a roller and start putting the body panels on.

Bottle Jacks to help hold brace in place
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0014-1.jpg

Bottle Jack attached to main brace
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0013-1.jpg

Rear suspension is in!!!

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...PICT0015-1.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00212.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ICT00192-1.jpg

scherp69 04-11-2008 02:20 PM

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ICT00182-1.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ICT00162-1.jpg

tones2SS 04-11-2008 03:38 PM

That is awesome.
The build seems to coming along quickly. Keep us updated.:thumbsup: :cheers:

awr68 04-11-2008 03:40 PM

rockin'!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

waynieZ 04-11-2008 07:27 PM

Looking good keep the pictures comming.
Wayne

scherp69 04-12-2008 02:30 PM

Thanks for the comments guys. Today I started to do some more cutting. I guess there's no turning back now.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00042.jpg

scherp69 05-12-2008 04:06 PM

Well I haven't had a lot of time to work on the car since my last post, but I did get a few opportunities to get in the shop. I started doing the deep tubs install, but has taken longer than it should have. I originally cut a piece out of the floor and was going to stretch the wheelhouse, then I decided to do the deep tubs. I'm doing a lot of guess work as I can't measure from the stock wheelhouse location. My welder has become my greatest friend. Along with a sheet of metal to fill in when I cut too big. I've got the passenger side deep tub and new outer wheelhouse mocked up. I also put in a new trunk drop off. Now to mock up the quarter panel to make sure my outer wheelhouse lip is right. I did find though that with the deep tubs and the 285/35/18 tires I have....I have almost 2" more that I can go. May have to get some 12" wide rims. Anyone looking for a set of 18" Foose rims and tires?? Anyways...here's some pics.

I had to cut a rusted piece off the rocker panel. Will be an easy patch.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00032.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ICT00052-1.jpg

Frame notched.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ICT00173-1.jpg

Wheels mocked up.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00213.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00203.jpg

scherp69 05-12-2008 04:07 PM

Quite a bit of room still.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00232.jpg

scherp69 06-04-2008 11:04 AM

Well here I go changing my mind again. I am worse than my wife Last night I got a really good deal on a Unisteer rack and pinion kit with steering shaft, hoses and polished pump (thanks to Dark Angel). I also just got off the phone with Blake at Killer Customs and ordered one of the Speed Tech subframes I have wanted one from the day I saw them. When I'm done this build I don't want to say...I wish I would have done this or that. Hopefully picking everything up next Thursday. If you're looking for QA1 coilovers or a AGR power steering box, both new, I now how them for sale. Will post pics when I get the new frame.

gardnerme 06-07-2008 01:51 PM

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Scherp,

I have a question for you. I, too, have a fabricated Moser rear axle assembly (thank you, Frank) for my Camaro and started assembling it yesterday. I have never set up a 9" axle before, but it looks like the axles themselves are offset way too much to one side to make sense - it look like they are centered on the ring gear location and not the center of the third member. With the axles in the housing, does yours look something like this? Can anyone else confirm or deny that this looks correct?

Thanx in advance.

Mike

scherp69 06-07-2008 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gardnerme (Post 152381)
Scherp,

I have a question for you. I, too, have a fabricated Moser rear axle assembly (thank you, Frank) for my Camaro and started assembling it yesterday. I have never set up a 9" axle before, but it looks like the axles themselves are offset way too much to one side to make sense - it look like they are centered on the ring gear location and not the center of the third member. With the axles in the housing, does yours look something like this? Can anyone else confirm or deny that this looks correct?

Thanx in advance.

Mike

I think you may have the same issue that I did. When my axles were ordered, they were ordered for the wrong centre section. I have a strange centre section with a billet half posi, and they were meant for another type of posi unit. I called Moser and spent about 45 mins on the phone with them before we realized that. In the end all I had to do was cut about 5/8" off the passenger side axle and they fit like a charm. Mine looked like your set up before I cut the one axle. I would suggest calling moser, tell them what kind of centre section and posi unit you have and they should be able to give you the right measurements. You may have to take a bunch of other measurements for them. Hope this helps.

gardnerme 06-08-2008 06:57 PM

Thanx, scherp. I have not actually selected the center section yet so it sounds like I will have a little play with the axles to make sure it all works. I appreciate your help.

scherp69 06-13-2008 10:03 AM

So I finally got to go to Killer Customs and pick up my Speed Tech subframe. It is awesome!!!! And it was $1000 cheaper than some of the other companies (every penny counts). I also picked up my new Unisteer rack and pinion kit, thanks to Dark Angel. Now if I can just get the deep tubs and quarter panels done...I can get the frame bolted up. Here's some pics.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00045.jpg

G-Mod built in
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00054.jpg

Built in adjustable trans crossmember
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00064.jpg

scherp69 06-13-2008 10:05 AM

Adjustable motor mounts
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ICT00073-1.jpg

Billet shock mounts
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ICT00083-1.jpg

Ready for some wider tires up front now
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ICT00093-1.jpg

A feature I hope to never use, built in tow hooks
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ICT00102-1.jpg

Sway bar mounts up front, not underneath where the frame can break (mine did)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ICT00112-1.jpg

scherp69 06-13-2008 10:08 AM

Unisteer rack and pinion kit
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...ICT00122-1.jpg

Polished pump
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00174.jpg

Braided lines
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00153.jpg

Now back to the shop to see if I can get the passenger side quarters done today.

scherp69 06-28-2008 04:06 PM

So I got the Speed Tech high clearance control arms and sway bar that go with the Speed Tech subframe. Now I have the entire Speed Tech subframe package, I just bought it in stages that's all. My plan now is to try and get the driver's side deep tub done and get the quarters on. Then I have to put the driver's side cowel panel on, finish welding up the new floor pans and I'll get to try out the rotisserie that I built.

Here's some pics of the Speed Tech high clearance control arms. These things are sick!!!

Upper Control arm with billet aluminum ball joint cover
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00055.jpg

Stainless Steel cross shafts
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00046.jpg

Lower control arm
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00065.jpg

Sway bar end links
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00094.jpg

scherp69 06-28-2008 04:07 PM

1.25" solid sway bar
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00144.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00134.jpg

scherp69 07-17-2008 02:00 PM

Well I've been able to make some pretty good progress of the past few days until the power switch on my air compressor blew. Wouldn't turn off at all. Thankfully I have a separate breaker in the shop for the compressor. Oh well..this way I'll be able to get a new on that regulates better for the plasma cutter.

Here's some pics of the passenger side that is mostly done. Still have some welding to finish up, but it's strong enough right now to be secure.

new quarter installed
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00352.jpg

Deep tub in
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00154.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00302.jpg

scherp69 07-17-2008 02:00 PM

Today I started on the driver's side. Going to replace the outer wheelhouse, put in deep tubs, replace the trunk drop off and obviously the quarter panel. Here's some before pics:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00312.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00342.jpg

The glue that didn't work :mad:
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00332.jpg

scherp69 07-17-2008 02:01 PM

And here's what I got done before the compressor kicked out on me:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00372.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00382.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00432.jpg

scherp69 07-17-2008 02:02 PM

Since I had some spare time after the compressor died, I thought I would look and see how much room I actually have to play with now that I have the deep tubs. The tires that I have in these pics are a 285-35-18. I'll have to trim the quarter/outer wheelhouse lip as it's pretty tight, but wow what a difference. If anyone ever wondered if it was worth it...here's proof.

Gap between tire and wheelhouse/quarter lip
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00442.jpg

Distance between wheel and inner wheelhouse now
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00482.jpg

This is a 2 1/2" piece of square tubing that fit between the tire and inner wheelhouse
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00532.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00512.jpg

scherp69 07-17-2008 02:02 PM

So now I am definately going to send my rims away and get them widened to 12". I need to find a tire though that will fit flush with the rim. Here's what I mean:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00602.jpg

Anyone have any ideas? Well I've locked the shop up and will be off to New York on Sunday for a much needed holiday. In the mean time...off to KMS Tools so I can get my compressor fixed :(

street3285 07-17-2008 02:06 PM

Looking good...... so you were able to clear a 12"?
We found the largest without having clearance issues was a 10" or 11" with a 305mm to 315mm tire. Did you move the frame rails in?

scherp69 07-17-2008 02:11 PM

It hasn't cleared yet...I'm assuming I will be able to though with the extra 2 1/2" clearance though. I haven't moved the rails, just notched them. I'm running a g-bar so that's given me some extra clearance. I guess I just got lucky.

street3285 07-17-2008 02:20 PM

I have the same setup on a 70 Nova (g-bar and DSE tubs), and were only able to get a 305/35/20 in there, on a 10" wheel. There is a lot of room to the inside, but with a 12" wheel, there wouldn't of been enough clearance for a driver without rubbing everywhere. We had test fitted a 295/45/18 and it cleared about the same.

I say if you can fit the 12" and a 335mm tire, go for it! Post pics, I would be interested to see how it fits.

scherp69 07-17-2008 02:48 PM

Thanks for the info. I'll definately keep that in mind before I go and send my rims away. I might be better off with an 11" rim then and maybe 315's. Will try and find some to test fit before I do anything though. Thanks again.

street3285 07-17-2008 03:13 PM

No problem, look forward to seeing the progress on the car. Jon @ Driverz Inc is great at finding what tires are available and what works best. Give him a shot.

WILWAXU 07-26-2008 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by street3285 (Post 157382)
I say if you can fit the 12" and a 335mm tire, go for it! Post pics, I would be interested to see how it fits.

What he said. An take allot of pictures :D

waynieZ 08-02-2008 01:07 PM

Any new pictures?

scherp69 08-02-2008 06:49 PM

I've got a little bit of an update and a few pics. My wife and I went to New York for a week so didn't get much time in the shop. I did get to spend one day last week in the shop. I hope to get out there again on Thursday and Friday.

The driver's side deep tub is going pretty good. I need to cut out the pieces to fill in the frame rail and gap between the trunk and frame rail. It was also good, I looked at some 315 wide tires online and found that on a 11" rim, they will measure 12.6" wide. I cut out a 12.6" wide piece of cardboard and put it in the wheel opening. Lots of room all around!!!! Think I know what size tires I'll be going to. Might even try a 325!!!

Some people have asked about notching the frame rails when installing the deep tubs. Here's some pics of what the frame rail looks like notched. The openings will be filled in with some 1/8" steel plates and the tubs get welded to those plates.

Marking for the frame notch
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00047.jpg

Frame notched
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00056.jpg

Frame notched from underneath
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00104.jpg

Areas to be filled in with 1/8" steel plates
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00135.jpg

Hopefully on Thursday and Friday I"ll get the frame filled back in and then will start on getting the tubs and quarter welded on. Wish I had more of an update but the little vacation got in the way :lol: And if my wife heard me say that, she'd kill me.

scherp69 08-15-2008 04:25 PM

Here's the frame filled in:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d.../PICT00562.jpg


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