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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:22 AM

Something Different... Pro-Touring VW??
 
As you can see in my other posts, I am a fan of Pro-Touring Muscle cars, however, for something different I thought I would share my buildup of my 380whp 1991 VW Gti with you all. There are a TON of pics, so be patient.

I purchased the car as a nearly mint unmolested 2 owner 91 GTI 16v in July 2002. It has all original metal, paint and has no DECs on it. It is one of the cleanest MK2 I have ever seen.

Here is how it started:

Picked up car July 20th, 2002. Here are a few shots to show you how clean it was. This was before having it detailed.

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:23 AM

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July 29th, 2002 (9 days after i got it) I took it to my good friends Momentum Motorparts for the VR6 swap.

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:23 AM

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:25 AM

I drove it for the summer as a MK2 VR6 with Coilovers and stock wheels and tires. It was really fun just as a NA MK2 VR6. After selling off some excess toys, I purchased a T3/T4 turbo setup from a friend. This also came with the trick and very limited VSR intake.

September 23, 2002

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:26 AM

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:27 AM

Here is how it looked after being detailed and cleaned up for a Eurotuner Magazine Photoshoot in Feb 2003. I also put the Bolt in Cage, Kodiak 2" Lips on the RM's, as well a full custom setero install between September and Feb. I was running 2 Xtant 2200i AMP's with a Pioneer ODR 10" Sub in a custom built enclosure, Audiophile Mids and Tweeters with a Pioneer Head unit.

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:28 AM

With this setup, we strapped it to the dyno and it put down 288hp to the wheels at 9lbs of boost. Not bad.

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That is it for now... more to come!!

Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:29 AM

So I got married in August of 2003 and moved away to Ottawa for 18 months while my wife went to school. I left my car in the hands of my good friend Shawn "Mr. Miagi" Lang. He took care of her until I got back in April of 2005. Once I got back, I drove the car again for the summer and then stored it in October for the winter. The car has never been winter driven since I have owned it. I was told by the previous owner that it was never driven in the winter when he had it either. If you see the undercarriage of the car you would agree as it is that clean!

I knew at the time when I stored it, I needed to do some work on it because the chains were getting noisy (the engine had around 150k on it), the headliner was sagging, and there was a leak somewhere in the interior (which turned out to be the sunroof drains). I decided to tear out the interior to source the leak and then in sat... Until April 2006. I took it to MMP with the intention of getting the chains done and putting in a Peloquin diff that I bought from Kompressor Kanada while I was living in Ottawa. For those that know me, you know that I can never do ANYTHING half ass and it is either go big or go home. Well this went a lot bigger than I had originally planned... silly me for thinking!

I will let the pictures do the rest of the talking.

August 2006 - I decided that since I had the interior out that I wanted to redo all of the sound dampening using RAAMmat and their closed cell foam called Ensolite. Although I do not have pictures of everything, I did every square inch in the car with the exception of the door panels which I still plan on doing. I also decided that I couldn't live with the wiring mess that the stereo installer left me. I also decided to install a Compustar Paging Alarm and a few other goodies.

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:30 AM

I then took the headliner out to Pacific Autotrim and had them redo it in Black Alcantara. I love the way it looks. They did a wicked job. They are pricey, but they do fantastic work. They do all the interior retrimming for Burrard Autostrasse and other high end shops.

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After we took out the engine, we discovered another secret present from the stereo installer. Apparently it is common practice to use drywall screws to hold the fuse block to the battery and let the battery acid leak out into the tray!

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:31 AM

I decided that I was going to clean up the engine bay before putting the engine back in. After all the work I went through detailing the engine, I didn't want it to go back into a dirty bay! I had a couple holes filled in and had the body shop do some minor smoothing and then had them repaint it. The goal was to have a relatively clean look without going nuts with the filler to make it smooth. I dont want to have to work about cracks later.

Before:

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After:

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While this was going on, I began the tear down of the engine. We took the head off and I decided to have it rebuilt with new lifters, guides, valves, seats, springs etc. After the head was removed we inspected the bottom end and were very surprised to find that it was in awesome shape. Cross hatching was perfect and everything else other than the chain guides looked like it had 50,000ks on it! A note to all, regular oil changes and maintenace will take these engines a LONG way!

Even though it wasn't necessary, we replaced almost every part with brand new parts. Water pump, billet crack pipe, thermostat and housing, all new seals, gaskets, plugs etc. Other than the bottom end, we replaced every thing.

I also prepped the block and painted it with high temp paint. I sandblasted every piece and every bracket and had it powder coated. Any components that were hot (ie. Hot side of the turbo, exhaust manifolds, downpipe, etc.) were all blasted and coated and baked with a Thermal Barrier coating to keep the heat from radiating off. All cool components (intake manifold, compressor housing, intercooler etc.) were blasted and coated and baked with a 'Thermal Disperssant' coating that helps cool the component. It took a while to do all this and was a pretty messy job, but in the end I think it turned out very good. The sad thing about this is, once it is all back together, you cant see all the work that went into it, however, just me knowing that all that work went into it allows me to sleep at night ;)

I don't have any pictures of the tear down, but here is what it looks like all together minus the intake manifold...

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:33 AM

November 27 2006 - Car is back from the body shop with a clean engine bay. Engine has been rebuilt and is ready for mock up in the car so Mikey can start doing what he does best... Fabbing stuff!

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I think I forgot to mention that we installed a 8.5:1 head spacer for more boost! If you look closely, you can see it in this pic. You can also see the external oil cooler fitting.

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:33 AM

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January 2007 - I decided that I wanted to try and make the engine bay a lot less cluttered. So I commissioned Mikey to make me a Short Runner Intake so that the intercooler plumbing would be simpler and neater. Along with the MMP Phenolic spacer this will help keep intake temps down as well.

As usual his work is art. He truly has a gift in handling metal.

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:34 AM

Here you can see all the bungs in place for various sensors for my Innovate Motorsports Datalogger.

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January 30th, 2007 - Here are some more mockup pics in the engine bay.

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Custom throttle cable bracket:

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:34 AM

Custom MMP Scribed Fuel Rail Mounting Tabs

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Once I tore down the car and saw all the wiring mess the stereo installed left me, I was determined to get rid of all the electrical tape, hockey stick tape, and 'butt' connectors. I proceeded to strip out every harness out of the car and redo it by using proper soldering techniques with heat shrink and then using TekFlex and special heat resistant Mil Spec tape. This was a very pain staking process, but again I say, "Do it right, or don't do it at all!". I can now sleep at night knowing that everything has been done properly and will last the lifetime of the car. Here are the results:

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Here is another one of Mikey's ingenious little touches.

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:35 AM

March 2007 - Next came the mockup of the intercooler. It is a Garrett 3.25" Core. As you can see it is pretty big.

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Another thing I was working on in the background was my wheels. I took the Kodiak lips off, had them re polished, had the barrels bead blasted and powder coated black. I bought new bolts, BBS Polished caps with Carbon Fiber centers and reassembled them and mounted Falken R Compound tires.

Please excuse the next round of pics, they are from my cel phone and are the only ones I have.

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:35 AM

April 2007 - Final mockup and turbo plumbing. We coated the intercooler with the Thermal Dispersant to aid with the cooling capabilities. It also gives my car a very stealth look which I Love. Again please excuse the quality of the pictures. They are all I have from this stage.

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:36 AM

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:36 AM

Here is another thing that was going on in the background. Unfortunately I only have pics of the completed product. Again another work of art by Mikey.

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:37 AM

So here is the car in its final build status. I dont have any updated shots of the interior yet, I will try and get some.

June 2007

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:38 AM

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:38 AM

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:39 AM

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Nutsy 04-28-2008 10:39 AM

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Here is a complete listing of the specs of the car:

1991 GTI VR6T
362WHP 18PSI Pump gas (94 octane)

Engine:
Stock OBDII 2.8L VR6 Swap
MMP Custom Short Runner Intake Manifold
Doherty Stage 1 VR6 Turbo SRI Cams - Not installed yet
MMP Custom 8.5:1 Headspacer
MMP Phenolic Intake Manifold spacer
MMP/Schritt Designs custom Turbo setup all tig welded and all stainless plumbing
Garret 3.25" Core Front Mount intercooler w/ MMP End tanks
Turbonetics T3/T4 Ball Bearing Hybrid Turbo
Turbonetics Godzilla blow off valve
Turbonetics Racegate Wastegate
Greddy Profec Type B Boost Controller
MMP 4" MAF Housing
Bosch 42lb Injectors
Eurospec Adjustable FPR
MMP catch can
MMP power steering resorvior
MMP custom battery box/Deka 15lb battery
K&N Filter
MMP/Schritt Designs 3" Turbo Back exhaust
All hot side components coated with Thermal Barrier coating
All cold side components coated with Thermal Dispersant coating

Transmission:
Stock VW O2A w/ Peloquin LSD

Suspension:
Bilstein Sport Shocks & Struts
H&R Sport Springs
Neuspeed 25mm Front Sway bar & 28mm Rear sway bar

Wheels & Tires:
15" BBS RM w/ 2" Kodiak Polished Lips
Falken RT-615 Tires 205/50/15

Brakes:
MMP/Willwood 11" front brakes w/ 4 piston
Willwood Dynalite calipers
MMP 11.5" rear brakes
Willwood Polymatrix-D Pads
MMP Stainless brake lines

Bodywork/Lighting:
Crystal Clear E-Code outer head lights
Crystal Clear E-Code inner head lights
MMP Relayed Lighting Harness

Interior:
Stock 16v Recaro interior
Black micro suede Headliner
MMP Custom weld in 4pt Roll cage w/ rear strut tower bar
Autometer Sport Comp II EGT, Boost, Oil Pressur Guages
Innovate XD-16 Wideband A/F Guage
Innovate LMA3 Datalogger
Compustar Alarm w/ built in Turbo Timer
Momo Champion Steering Wheel
MKIV Polo GTI Shift Knob

I would like to thank Shawn, Mikey, Ryan, Phil, Mark, Otto and anyone else that was involved in this build! :rockin:

Thanks for taking the time to read through this post and I welcome everyones thoughts!

Trev

surreyboy 04-28-2008 11:25 AM

cool car

Spiffav8 04-28-2008 11:30 AM

I love it when a car that I normally don't pay to much attention to really sucks me in. Yours is one of those. Great work all the way around. The attention to detail and the clean look make it a real winner!

Good job and thanks for sharing! :thumbsup:

Nutsy 04-28-2008 11:40 AM

BTW here are the latest numbers.

Please note it is FWD and in complete street trim (tires, pump gas, etc.)

WHP: 380hp @ 18lbs of boost
1/4 Mile: 13.2 @ 118mph.

The car sucks to launch and i never built it to drag race it. I built it for the street and road track.

3rd gear rolling i can pull on most anything that drives on the street. It is an animal! Light to light however is another story :(

XcYZ 04-28-2008 12:20 PM

118 in the qtr! Sweet! What a fun ride that must be. :cheers:

Nutsy 04-28-2008 12:22 PM

Its pretty fun, but would be much better if it was RWD.

cometose 04-28-2008 01:52 PM

All you need now is to add syncro to get all that power to the ground!
Love mk2's, especially with the smooth sound of the vr6.Nice ride!

Nutsy 04-28-2008 01:54 PM

Actually i wouldn't bother with a syncro, i would just get another Rallye Golf and do the VR6 Turbo swap on it with the Haldex AWD setup from an AUDI.

cometose 04-28-2008 02:22 PM

That would do!

Ketzer 04-28-2008 06:52 PM

Very NICE! :wow:

Mr.VENGEANCE 04-28-2008 07:28 PM

welcome from another fellow EUROTUNER feature guy...

holler!:thumbsup:

awr68 04-28-2008 08:44 PM

I dig it big time!! Takes me back to hi-school!

Love the detail and fab work, almost looks factory...but it still has a hint that there was a lot of work performed!

Thanks for sharing!! :cheers:

Nutsy 04-28-2008 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 147257)
Love the detail and fab work, almost looks factory...but it still has a hint that there was a lot of work performed!

That is EXACTLY what i was going for. Thanks. That is a big compliment!
:thumbsup:

Nutsy 04-28-2008 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomous Type (Post 147246)
welcome from another fellow EUROTUNER feature guy...

holler!:thumbsup:

Nice rides yo! I thought i was the only dood to like VW's and Muscle!

el-camino 04-28-2008 10:30 PM

donīt sleep....
when a golf eats porscheīs and Lamboīs
http://www.dirtymedia.de/2007-10-28/...golf-580ps.wmv

ArisESQ 05-01-2008 09:58 PM

thats one hell of a trap speed. awesome golf :thumbsup:

Nutsy 05-02-2008 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill steez (Post 147712)
thats one hell of a trap speed. awesome golf :thumbsup:

I just wish i could hook it up!

ArisESQ 05-02-2008 02:19 PM

hey whatever man, the trap speed is PLENTY impressive. i'm sure that thing is a monster from a roll.


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