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DRJDVM's '69 06-15-2008 02:54 PM

Cragar Wheels ripped me off !!!
 
Well, not really :)

Check out page 75 in the August 2008 Chevy High Performance..... thats my car in their ad !!!! :D

That picture was submitted to PHR a couple of years ago for their photo contest and got a 2 page spread in the "winning photos" issue Nov 2006 pages 68-69. I got a call from a friend that though that it was my car in the ad. I thought for sure it must be another red and white striped '69, so I though no way.... then I saw the issue and there is no doubt its my car but they photoshopped Cragar wheels on to it and changed the background to a street scene. We pulled out the PHR issue to be sure and its dead on...same reflections etc etc...

Dont get me wrong.... I'm not mad they used the photo.... I just hope I can get some "swag" out of it...maybe a poster or something of the layout. For the photo contest submit, I never signed any release, but I assume it was implied when we sent them in that PHR could do whatever they wanted with them. I just had no idea that PHR could sell or give them to companies to use in their ads...thats kinda "sketchy" to me, but oh well.....

Just another magazine spot for the scrapbook:) Even if its not with my real wheels :rofl:

Looks like its on their website too and there are 2 versions!!
http://www.cragarwheel.com/current_ads.html

va72mlibu 06-15-2008 03:21 PM

Not only that, but the color ad says, "get a new look on your FORD"!!! Blasphemers!!!:eek:

DRJDVM's '69 06-15-2008 03:26 PM

Thats funny !! I didnt notice that.....the ad in the mag says Chevy, but the one on the website says Ford :)

chrismoe 06-15-2008 03:28 PM

similar experience
 
Ned,

I had a similar experience. I built a red 67 Camaro (father-daughter project) that would up in Camaro Performers a few years back. I sold the car and then was contacted by a buddy who told me that my old Camaro was being used by flowmaster in one of their 3-way fold advertisements. Sure enough, he showed me a copy and it was my old car. Fast forward to May of this year and I ran into the guy who has that car today and he confirmed that flowmaster used the car for advertising purposes and he asked for some swag. They gave him free flowmaster parts FOR LIFE!! Fast forward to yesterday and at a local show (Bowtie Bash) inside the goodie bag was the same flowmaster advertisement with my red Camaro.

Cool to see the car get some pub.

Take care,
Chris

DRJDVM's '69 06-15-2008 03:38 PM

Heres the original mag spread...
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...P1010001-1.jpg

Heres the ad....
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...amaro/ad27.jpg

Look at the reflections etc and they are exactly the same....just different wheels and background. In the Sepia version the website they kept the orignal backgorund

Van B 06-15-2008 05:25 PM

Too bad they couldn't find a car that actually had Cragar wheels on it. Probably because there aren't any....

DRJDVM's '69 06-15-2008 06:02 PM

Just to clarify one thing..... the original pix WAS NOT taken by a hired professional photographer for PHR....it was taken by my amateur friend to be submitted to a PHR contest for amateurs. No one got any $$ and no one signed a direct release to allow the pix to be sold to anyone else....

I'm alittle annoyed but not mad... Im gonna contact Cragar and see what they have to say.....

Steve1968LS2 06-15-2008 06:15 PM

Where did they get the picture??? I didn't give it to them. I'll ask Johnny but it's not something he would normally do.

Like I said, didn't get it from me. I will ask around tomorrow.

Maybe you could spin this for a free set of wheels? Should I call Cragar? lol


I saw the ad and thought it was your car but said, "no, it has the wrong wheels"

But is is the same photo... I will check around.

MtotheIKEo 06-15-2008 08:49 PM

This seems to happen semi-often in all the different automotive magazines.

Vegas69 06-15-2008 09:00 PM

Thats really the chance you take when you allow the world to see your car. I don't necessarily agree with it, but you shouldn't be suprised.

Hdesign 06-15-2008 09:20 PM

Not to mention that the wheels are photoshopped in the wrong perspective and have sterile/studio lighting.

badmatt 06-15-2008 09:25 PM

sue them bastards....

DRJDVM's '69 06-15-2008 10:03 PM

Well I found where it came from....my friend posted some of his pix on Shutterstock.com..... you can dowload images for next to nothing if you subscribe to them..... and then you can use them pretty much however you want...

I'd still take a free set of rims....but I dont really like any of their stuff......:D

Guess I could sell it off...

DRJDVM's '69 06-16-2008 09:37 AM

Like I said in my first post, I was wasnt mad at all and was flattered....then you guys got me all fired up that I got ripped off !!!! :) Its all your guys faults !!!!

Steve....I didnt meant to make accusuations that Primedia/PHR sold my stuff. That was not my intention. I know you wouldnt do that on purpose, but who knows where that digital image gets shuffled and shown around and who could get ahold of it. I was more curious about how they got it. My apologies for any hurt feelings.

I apologize to all the people at Primedia and PHR ....... :)

As for my friend posting it.... I have absolutely no problem with him posting it and getting paid for the image (even though its next to nothing on Shutterstock.com). Thats not a problem for me at all. He's a good friend and takes great pictures. I just didnt know he had posted that particular image. He has quite a few of my car, but most of them we never submitted to PHR etc, so thats why I though that pix came from Primedia/PHR. As for the compensation and them altering the image and using it in an ad....thats up to him if he wants to make a stink about it.

So now I'm back to being flattered that they used my car eventhough they changed the rims... I dont really care. Hopefully I can get some commercial swag/posters etc, but I'm cool with them using it.

Steve1968LS2 06-16-2008 10:11 AM

I was just giving you a hard time Ned.. :yes:

To be honest the theory of "Primedia gave it to Cragar" made the most sense at first, except we're not that organized.

When this happens to me I get a copy of the ad and put it in the scrapbook. Any exposure is good exposer unless it involves a goat.


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