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uthustler 07-19-2008 08:30 AM

how is this car as a pro-touring starting point?
 
Looking for a good car as a starting point and found this one. Any feedback? or thoughts/opinions on the car?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...AQ:MOTORS:1123

WILWAXU 07-19-2008 09:20 AM

Looks like a finished car. If it's what you like then go for it. If you plan to change allot of stuff on it, there are probably better options to start with.

uthustler 07-19-2008 09:29 AM

i would put larger wheels/tires, mini-tub, change little things. Is it worth $20k?

jeff hanson 07-19-2008 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uthustler (Post 157706)
i would put larger wheels/tires, mini-tub, change little things. Is it worth $20k?

It looks like it's worth at least $24K. It looks pretty decent to me. You couldn't build it for that. It all depends on how much of it you would want to change. It already has a lot of the goodies on it, so other than minitubs and maybe wheels that were larger or more your own taste (to make it your own), what else would you want to do with it? Paint and body condition also plays a huge factor in what it's worth. Again, it all comes back to what you want to do with it. If you want something to cruise around in, take to the track, beat on , and have fun, I'd have to say it looks like a pretty good deal. Then again we don't know what he really wants for it since the reserve wasn't met. I would think the reserve is somewhere in the $30 - $40 range, again, depending on the paint. I would say $20K=great deal, up to $30=fair deal, much over that, not such a deal.

PSV 07-19-2008 12:48 PM

I wouldn't consider that a starter car, its a completed pro-touring car. It would be a steal in the 20's. I agree that the reserve is likely in the 30 - 40 range.

uthustler 07-19-2008 01:37 PM

here is my question. ive come to a number in agreement with the seller, but how should I have it checked out by a local speed shop to ensure the car is in working order? Any special tests that can be done to the motor to ensure it is 100%?

uthustler 07-19-2008 01:46 PM

thanks, we both just agreed upon $23,500 as the sale price. Im going to fly out to get it.

uthustler 07-19-2008 01:57 PM

if you watch the video of the current owner driving it on that road course, what items do you think the car needs to handle/perform better on the course?

mazspeed 07-19-2008 02:01 PM

I think that's a steal at $23500.

uthustler 07-19-2008 02:05 PM

I do as well, just hope there is nothing hidden.

uthustler 07-19-2008 02:09 PM

The first thing I want to do is be able to fit 335's under the rear. Where can I get a mini-tub kit? Which would you recommend? What all will I need to fit those? Best place to get Fikse wheels? Would you go 17" in the back or 18"? How wide would you go? Id like to put 295s up front, 17" Fikse FM5s, but unsure what it takes to fit those 295's up front. Currently it has 275's.

uthustler 07-19-2008 02:18 PM

Ok, I figure 18x11 Fikse FM5's on the rear with 335/30ZR18
18x10 Fikse FM5's on the front with 295/35ZR18

How does that sound? About right? Anyone know what bolt pattern I need?

PSV 07-19-2008 02:35 PM

Great deal at 23500. I don't think you will fit 18X10 upfront without an aftermarket subframe. I believe you are maxed out at 18x8 up front. Nine ball is a fikse dealer from this site and would be able to provide more info. I like the black chrome TTII's. I would be interested in them for one of my projects if you want to sell them.

uthustler 07-19-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PSV (Post 157735)
Great deal at 23500. I don't think you will fit 18X10 upfront without an aftermarket subframe. I believe you are maxed out at 18x8 up front. Nine ball is a fikse dealer from this site and would be able to provide more info. I like the black chrome TTII's. I would be interested in them for one of my projects if you want to sell them.


10-4, if everything checks out and I can get some Fikses from him, ill shoot you a PM.

Im debating whether to go 17" or 18".

I definately want 315's minimum in the rear. Id like to go as wide as possible in the front with the current setup, but if that is a 8" rim max, what size tire could I run? 275?

PSV 07-19-2008 02:57 PM

I would go with 18s. There are some cars running a 275s up front. I think most use a 245 and that's what I have. Check out the DSE website for the mini tub. You can run as large as a 345 rear with the g-bar. I use a 335 with the DSE leaf relocation kit. You will need to narrow the rear housing and axles to around 55 inches wheel to wheel. You are looking at a large investment to mini tub and purchase fikse wheels, over 10 grand added to your purchase price just to make those changes.

tgvettes 07-19-2008 02:59 PM

For $23500 I wouldn't worry to much if something isn't perfect. If the paint and body is in perfect condition it is a steal.

Tonny

uthustler 07-19-2008 04:22 PM

my main concern is i dont want a blown tranny or motor

mazspeed 07-19-2008 04:38 PM

You're not going to get 295's in the front with your current subframe. DSE makes mini tubs for the car. DSE also makes a subframe where you can go as high as 285-295 in the front. CAR makes a subframe where you can use 315's in the front.

uthustler 07-19-2008 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazspeed (Post 157760)
You're not going to get 295's in the front with your current subframe. DSE makes mini tubs for the car. DSE also makes a subframe where you can go as high as 285-295 in the front. CAR makes a subframe where you can use 315's in the front.

then ill stick with 275's up front.

customcam 07-19-2008 07:58 PM

Check this beast of a build
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the suspension sponsors to the left of the screen have almost everything depending on which way ud like to go
Art Morrison, dse, Sc&c, Ats,Frank@Prodigy etc Keep u sposted on what u decide
:thumbsup:

Tom.A 07-20-2008 11:01 AM

Hope the deal don't fall through :rolleyes:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...t=13287&page=7

uthustler 07-20-2008 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom_a (Post 157810)
Hope the deal don't fall through :rolleyes:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...t=13287&page=7


suit yourself, you dont know the details but like to pass judgement based on another jealous person's assumptions that were wrong. Do as you wish, but I know the truth. There are always jelous haters in every crowd. I guess you are the one this time.

Tom.A 07-20-2008 11:26 AM

Your right I don't know the all the details and don't really care but it seems kinda odd that these deals don't go through.....I see you have another user name on PT.com with same thread. The actual owner of that car is a member there so maybe he will chime in. Hopefully you do get the car if you are actually are wanting to buy one and if so I am sorry in advance. But if not why waste peoples time?

uthustler 07-20-2008 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom_a (Post 157813)
Your right I don't know the all the details and don't really care but it seems kinda odd that these deals don't go through.....I see you have another user name on PT.com with same thread. The actual owner of that car is a member there so maybe he will chime in. Hopefully you do get the car if you are actually are wanting to buy one and if so I am sorry in advance. But if not why waste peoples time?

Well hopefully the owner WILL chime in. I just asked for his address to send the deposit. I dont waste time, but I dont just throw money at the first car I see.

rogue 07-20-2008 05:14 PM

lol I've heard about this guy on numerous forums.

he's almost famous for this kinda crap.

MarkM66 07-20-2008 06:34 PM

That many deals "falling through."

Wow, you must have a black cloud following you, lol.

MarkM66 07-21-2008 08:34 AM

I guess this one "fell through" too. Seems to have been relisted.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...3756.m14.l1318

And the bidding went higher then the "agreed upon" price of $23,500 . :_paranoid

camcojb 07-21-2008 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uthustler (Post 157814)
Well hopefully the owner WILL chime in. I just asked for his address to send the deposit. I dont waste time, but I dont just throw money at the first car I see.

what happened?

Jody

camcojb 07-21-2008 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 157900)
I guess this one "fell through" too. Seems to have been relisted.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...3756.m14.l1318

And the bidding went higher then the "agreed upon" price of $23,500 . :_paranoid

it was higher than his "agreed price" yesterday when he said he'd bought it and the auction was still going.

Jody

AnthonyT 07-21-2008 03:16 PM

This person claiming to have bought my car has not and the car has been relisted. I will re-post when it has sold. He never did give the deposit I asked for to hold the car.

Sorry for the confusion.

camcojb 07-21-2008 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyT (Post 157955)
This person claiming to have bought my car has not and the car has been relisted. I will re-post when it has sold. He never did give the deposit I asked for to hold the car.

Sorry for the confusion.

thanks for the explanation Anthony. If you read the links in this thread you'll see that it appears he's done this many other times. Too bad he doesn't realize that it's just a waste of everybody's time, and in the end he looks like an idiot when people figure out what he's doing.

Good luck on your sale; that car should sell fast, great buy for the price.

Jody

mazspeed 07-21-2008 03:29 PM

Somebody who jerks people off like this (no pun intended) should be banned.

camcojb 07-21-2008 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazspeed (Post 157959)
Somebody who jerks people off like this (no pun intended) should be banned.

I thought of that Mike, but then he can't come back on the site and get what he so richly deserves........................... :unibrow:

mazspeed 07-21-2008 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 157961)
I thought of that Mike, but then he can't come back on the site and get what he so richly deserves........................... :unibrow:

:rofl:

Tom.A 07-21-2008 03:44 PM

Anthony, Sorry your time was wasted but as Jody said great car for the price and it should sell quick. :thumbsup:

AnthonyT 07-21-2008 03:48 PM

Thanks

ironworks 07-21-2008 04:05 PM

So why don't you change the name of the post to help the guy sell the car to someone else, and when hustler comes back it should really blow his mind. Due to his track record he will come back and when he does we will be ready.......

The post could read great 69 camaro for sale by member who hustled him around.

Rodger

MarkM66 07-21-2008 04:22 PM

uthustler,

Please get some help. Seriously.

camcojb 07-21-2008 05:12 PM

well, I'm gonna lock this up. Decided to ban the guy. Kinda sad that there are people who think it's fun to string us and sellers along on a car purchase. I don't want anymore time wasted on the guy personally.

Jody


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