Lateral-g Forums

Lateral-g Forums (https://www.lateral-g.net/forums/index.php)
-   Chassis and Suspension (https://www.lateral-g.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=38)
-   -   Camaro full frame (https://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17456)

intimidator69 11-13-2008 10:34 PM

Camaro full frame
 
Just wandering if anyone put a full chassic in a 69 camaro?I was thinking of putting one in my 69 camaro.I wanted to know which is best and what if any mods. need to be done to body?

wiedemab 11-14-2008 07:06 AM

If were to go the full frame route, I'd probably have to go with an Art Morrison Max G.

If you are really interested, here is one that Kenny Davis Hot Rods has for sale that a customer is no longer going to use.

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sho...&highlight=max

Here is a link to an album of one of Art Morrison's customers that put a Max G under a '69.

http://www.artmorrison.com/gallery/v...9Camaro&page=1

If you aren't interesting in fabbing all new floor etc.. Schwartz has a bolt in full frame option.

http://www.schwartzperformance.com/

CraigMorrison 11-18-2008 09:12 AM

In addition to our MaxG style platform, we are in the process of attaching our front and rear subs together and will be offering a much more user-friendly first gen Camaro chassis. Should be out early 09.

3_z28camaro 11-18-2008 02:52 PM

These guys have a full frame for first gen Camaros as well as many others cars. If and when I do the suspension upgrade for my '69 Camaro I plan to use this full frame.

http://www.streetrodgarage.com/camarochassis.aspx

deuce_454 11-18-2008 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3_z28camaro (Post 177650)
These guys have a full frame for first gen Camaros as well as many others cars. If and when I do the suspension upgrade for my '69 Camaro I plan to use this full frame.

http://www.streetrodgarage.com/camarochassis.aspx

thisone has been discussed here before... the watts-link geometry is WRONG!! but the owner chimed in and posted that the chassis in the picture was for a customer who requested it be bolt in only.. with room for full length exhaust so im sure you can order one with correct geometry is you are at all interested in handling.....

i think the max-G is a safer bet though!! and it has been proven time and time again that it is cheaper in the long run just doing it right from the beginning

comp-spec 11-18-2008 03:41 PM

Full frame...... MAX G all the way, Just take a look at one

fesler 11-18-2008 04:52 PM

Art Morison all the way we use there stuff on a lot of cars and it just works and fits perfect.

68protouring454 11-18-2008 05:06 PM

that deal kenny davis has is a steal if you are even close to wanting one, save 4k

3_z28camaro 11-18-2008 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce_454 (Post 177656)
thisone has been discussed here before... the watts-link geometry is WRONG!! but the owner chimed in and posted that the chassis in the picture was for a customer who requested it be bolt in only.. with room for full length exhaust so im sure you can order one with correct geometry is you are at all interested in handling.....

i think the max-G is a safer bet though!! and it has been proven time and time again that it is cheaper in the long run just doing it right from the beginning

I was not even thinking of using the setup they have shown, currently I am thinking about using Corvette suspension. Sorry for the slight thread hijack.

comp-spec 11-18-2008 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3_z28camaro (Post 17765)
If and when I do the suspension upgrade for my '69 Camaro I plan to use this full frame.

http://www.streetrodgarage.com/camarochassis.aspx

:question:

3_z28camaro 11-18-2008 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comp-spec (Post 177785)
:question:

To me a full frame is the only real answer to Camaro suspension issues. I like this particular frame because the guys who build it are very open to requests. I would like to use C4/C5 Corvette suspension with a full frame for my '69 Camaro. There are a lot of nice subframes out there but I would like my front and rear tied together with something more than sub frame connectors.

Still if there is something better out there I am willing listen.

Sorry for the thread hijack again.

The WidowMaker 11-18-2008 10:24 PM

i couldnt find the thread discussing the watts, but those pics would steer me away from that company. even if told to build it like that, i wouldnt put my name on it.

as far as sources, the ones given will get you started. you'll most likely have some floor mods, but it would be worth it.

ironworks 11-19-2008 12:05 AM

We could build you a tube frame for camaro, We have done tons of Novas and are currently doing a tube frame 67 camaro. The tube frame will allow you to have any ride height and make the best use of space. Typically you gain about 3 inches of interior room over a Morrison Chassis.

Rodger

CraigMorrison 11-19-2008 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 177857)
Typically you gain about 3 inches of interior room over a Morrison Chassis.

Rodger

Which is exactly why we are coming out with a new 1st gen Camaro frame. New chassis will have 0 headroom loss.

MoparCar 11-19-2008 08:14 AM

Craig,
Camaro only? No Mopar E-body revised Max G in the works? I know, I know....we're the minority :D

Silver69Camaro 11-19-2008 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3_z28camaro (Post 177800)
There are a lot of nice subframes out there but I would like my front and rear tied together with something more than sub frame connectors.

I'm wondering if you are underestimating the strength of a unit body with subframe connectors. That type of construction is stronger than, say, a Chevelle with a bolt-on full frame. AND it's much lighter, making it an all-around win-win situation. The only way you're going to get much more strength out of the car is if you run a roll cage.

Using our rear clip with it's 0.120" thick rails to replace the stock .045" rails also adds considerable strength as well. If you put jackstands on 3 corners of my car, the remaining corner sags about 1/8" or so. It's rock solid.

ironworks 11-19-2008 10:25 AM

2 Attachment(s)
As you can see the floor ends up even with the rocker. So you actually sit 2" below where the original floor was.

Craig that sounds like a bitchin idea I look forward to seeing the product.

Rodger

frankenstang 11-19-2008 08:40 PM

I sent the original poster a PM. Thanks

3_z28camaro 11-20-2008 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver69Camaro (Post 177917)
I'm wondering if you are underestimating the strength of a unit body with subframe connectors. That type of construction is stronger than, say, a Chevelle with a bolt-on full frame. AND it's much lighter, making it an all-around win-win situation. The only way you're going to get much more strength out of the car is if you run a roll cage.

Using our rear clip with it's 0.120" thick rails to replace the stock .045" rails also adds considerable strength as well. If you put jackstands on 3 corners of my car, the remaining corner sags about 1/8" or so. It's rock solid.

That is all very interesting. Thanks.

I guess one the things that attracts me to the full frame is being able to use C4/C5 Corvette suspension and having something solid in the rear that the IRS could attach to. Another thing I liked about the SRG frame is that I do not have to cut up my floors.

fleetus macmullitz 11-22-2008 01:38 PM

Any idea on the weight difference between a subframe vs full frame setup on the 1st gen Camaros, everything else being equal?


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:06 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Lateral-g.net