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awr68 09-16-2005 06:38 PM

Red Witch?
 
What is the color on the Red Witch, got a code? Also how abot the Thrasher?

I'm just starting to research reds and I like both of them...looking for something that's bright, but has some depth and more on the blue side not orange side...if that makes any since?

My wife likes Scott's car and color, Scott do you know what it is?

Thanks in advance!!!

Your, I've changed color ideas for this car so many times I've almost gone full circle, friend... :_paranoid

Musclerodz 09-16-2005 07:11 PM

If you want to go to the blue side, you want Boyd Coddington Red. Dupont has a formula for it. If you can't find it, let me know and I will get a copy for you.

Mike

jonny51 09-16-2005 07:31 PM

Im not 100% sure but I believe Thrasher is Viper red .

BC69 09-16-2005 07:39 PM

Quote:

Im not 100% sure but I believe Thrasher is Viper red .
Yes it is. My car is also Viper red if you want to check out my pictures.

Thanks
Tim

awr68 09-16-2005 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclerodz
If you want to go to the blue side, you want Boyd Coddington Red. Dupont has a formula for it. If you can't find it, let me know and I will get a copy for you.

Mike


Thanks Mike I'll see if I can find it. I was thinking he was using PPG these days??

awr68 09-16-2005 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC69
Yes it is. My car is also Viper red if you want to check out my pictures.

Thanks
Tim

Thanks Tim, the car looks great! I think the Viper red is just a little too much on the orange side for me though...

camcojb 09-16-2005 11:25 PM

I know the red that Shaun had Boyd put on Twinsting!:unibrow:


Jody

awr68 09-16-2005 11:26 PM

Is The Red Witch possibly Torch Red?? Seems like I remember hearing that before?

mdprovee 09-16-2005 11:34 PM

I have started to paint my car Torch Red, the jambs and such. It is orange, infact if you put it up against white in the light, it looks more orange then red.

awr68 09-17-2005 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mdprovee
I have started to paint my car Torch Red, the jambs and such. It is orange, infact if you put it up against white in the light, it looks more orange then red.

Thanks Mike that saved me some frustration!! :thumbsup:

Musclerodz 09-17-2005 10:04 AM

Twinsting is an HOK color and he mentioned it in a thread here. I will have to find my article on Red Witch or Charley should chime in.

Boyd uses Dupont mostly as far as I know and the formula I have is in Dupont Chroma series. I think it is called Boyds001. It has a distinct blue tint to it.

Luckily I am buddy buddy with my paint store because they gave me over a gallon of different reds 1/2 pint at a time looking for the right red. I have tried them all except for some new ones that have come out this last year. I wanted the purest looking red without looking yellow like torch or blue like boyd's. I finally came up with a custom mix, but I think there is some factory colors out now that may be good enough for me. Or if I bite the bullet, I will paint it the way I originally wanted too which was to have an anodized red look.

Mike

awr68 09-18-2005 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclerodz
If you want to go to the blue side, you want Boyd Coddington Red. Dupont has a formula for it. If you can't find it, let me know and I will get a copy for you.

Mike

Mike, could you please get a copy of the formula for me, I'm not having any luck finding it...thanks!!

XcYZ 09-18-2005 07:16 AM

Here's DuPont Milano red, it's a color that really caught my eye. It's a shade darker than DuPont Viper red which I thought might look better with my white stripes. I took these pics a few years ago at SEMA for reference.

https://lateral-g.net/temp/red-rod.jpg

https://lateral-g.net/temp/red-red-code.jpg

clill 09-18-2005 08:18 AM

Red Witch is a Sikkens Audi red.

BC69 09-18-2005 10:49 AM

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Here's DuPont Milano red, it's a color that really caught my eye. It's a shade darker than DuPont Viper red which I thought might look better with my white stripes. I took these pics a few years ago at SEMA for reference.
That is a nice red, Scott does this mean you are planning on repainting your car?


Tim

Musclerodz 09-18-2005 02:07 PM

Scott I can't make out the code for the Milano Red. Looks blurry on my screen. Can you post it so I can check it out?

Anthony, I will call up the paint store tommorrow and post it up. It only has like 3 colors in it if I remember right.

Mike

BC69 09-18-2005 03:20 PM

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Scott I can't make out the code for the Milano Red. Looks blurry on my screen. Can you post it so I can check it out?
W9510K

Tim

Musclerodz 09-18-2005 03:55 PM

Thanks, for some reason I was seeng 5 numbers which I knew wasn't right.

Mike

68protouring454 09-18-2005 04:36 PM

red witch
 
with all this talk of the red witch, when is it going to make its debute??
jake

Damn True 09-18-2005 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 68protouring454
with all this talk of the red witch, when is it going to make its debute??
jake


Did Stielow buy it back?

awr68 09-18-2005 05:49 PM

Thanks Charley!

Mike, that would be great...thanks!!

Scott, does Milano Red look as orange in person as in the photo? What is the color of your car now??

XcYZ 09-18-2005 07:15 PM

No, it didn't have a hint of orange. Between what my digital camera captured and how your monitor is set - a lot of things can skew the actual color. Personally, I REALLY liked that color. Here's the code: DuPont Code W9510K

As for my car, it was painted back in '91 and the paperwork says it was GM Red Lacquer. That's it. lol When I get all the mechanical stuff dialed in, it will be getting media blasted and painted, it will still be red with white stripes.

Musclerodz 09-18-2005 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Damn True
Did Stielow buy it back?

Mark got Thrasher back when Charley got Malitude around last Christmas.

Mike

awr68 09-18-2005 08:05 PM

Thanks Scott, my research says Milano Red is an Acura/Honda color and is still being used on some models today...time for a trip to a dealership... :thumbsup:

68protouring454 09-19-2005 06:00 AM

red witch
 
and clill was having kurt urban go thru the witches motor, and i am sure it has to be done by now, is it??
jake

camcojb 09-19-2005 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclerodz
Mark got Thrasher back when Charley got Malitude around last Christmas.

Mike

And now Charley has the Thrasher again too!

Jody

clill 09-19-2005 07:55 AM

Thrasher is mine again. Red Witch engine is sitting on a broken dyno at Wheel to Wheel. Was doing break in time last week. Was making 500 ft lbs @3000 so it looks like it will make enough torque. Red Witch is still mine. Mark is taking it apart to do some updating. Nothing earth shattering just freshening.

Musclerodz 09-19-2005 08:40 AM

Did Mark decide not to do anything with it and concentrate on the Nova? Charley and Mark swap cars more than I get haircuts it seems.

Anthony, Boyd Coddington Red: paint code is BC001KM for chroma base. Here is the formula for HALF-PINT:

864 magenta 31.5
850 red 44.4
867 brilliant red 56.7
150 binder 169.4
175 binder 214.8

And for those interested in Milano Red. It has the same exact colors in it but it has less magenta which gives Boyd's red that blue hue it has. Milano red also has a Tri-coat formula which uses the magenta and a kandy.

Mike

Stuart Adams 09-19-2005 10:21 AM

Car
 
Mark has another 69 car in the works, is the news I heard.

awr68 09-19-2005 05:19 PM

Thanks Mike!!!

Yeah, Milano Red being a tri-coat kinda turns me off...

Stielow has a new project? Tell me more!!!! :thumbsup:

XcYZ 09-19-2005 05:48 PM

I had no idea it was a tri-coat. lol It sure didn't look like it. Oh well.

awr68 09-19-2005 06:16 PM

Just followed a '05 GTO on the way home tonight, that red sure looked good!

67Sally 09-19-2005 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XcYZ
I had no idea it was a tri-coat. lol It sure didn't look like it. Oh well.

My Mustang is "Malino Red". It is a Honda/Acura color. I know that the newer versions of it are tri-coat but if you go back a few more years it is not. I don't know paints but that is what I was told when I had a new hood painted. I will dig up my paperwork and provide the details.
W.

Here is a picture of my car before its current tear down. (Thanks for the instructions Bill)

Musclerodz 09-19-2005 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XcYZ
I had no idea it was a tri-coat. lol It sure didn't look like it. Oh well.

It can be used as a bc/cc or tri-coat. The formula for the base is the same for either. The mid coat has just enough magenta in it a color the binder. I for one would just leave the mid-coat out. I will be having a 1/2 pint mixed up to shoot. The nice thing about Milano is it has ALOT of pigment.

Mike

907rs 09-19-2005 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 67Sally
My Mustang is "Malino Red". It is a Honda/Acura color. I know that the newer versions of it are tri-coat but if you go back a few more years it is not. I don't know paints but that is what I was told when I had a new hood painted. I will dig up my paperwork and provide the details.
W.

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XcYZ 09-20-2005 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Musclerodz
It can be used as a bc/cc or tri-coat. The formula for the base is the same for either. The mid coat has just enough magenta in it a color the binder. I for one would just leave the mid-coat out. I will be having a 1/2 pint mixed up to shoot. The nice thing about Milano is it has ALOT of pigment.

Mike

Thanks Mike, I didn't realize that. Obviously I'm out to lunch on the technical side of paint.

68protouring454 09-20-2005 04:29 PM

muscle
 
that makes no sense.
most normal 3 stage paints, have a ground coat, which usually is alot light and full of pearl/metallic. then the mid coat is a darker shade of main color (lets say red) and very translucent (does not cover well) and it takes 3-5 coats to darken the ground coat or till you reach the color you want or are trying to match, dodge did a bunch of 3 stage colors on there cars etc in the early 2000's, a real **** up, heres some i just did last week, and there is no way you could get same color from ground coat with no mid, or by mixing same color in 2 stage, no way.
this is a pic of the 3 stage i just did i repair to, on a 2001 dodge mini van, color is inferno red.
first pic is mid coat(2nd coat) 2nd pic is color of mid coat, 3rd pic is ground coat can,4th pic is ground coat, which is first coat
see how in mid coat pic, it is very translucent on top where you can see right thru it then on bottom it is dark as there is more down there, then over on ground coat you can see how much pearl/metallic is it, thats the whole deal to 3 stage is you can spray the mid coat till you get desired darkness or effect if doing an overall, and it will look entirely different if you put one coat of mid coat or 4 coats of mid coat.

awr68 09-22-2005 05:27 PM

Just got word from Stielow (threw a friend) that the Red Witch is a '94 Mopar color in Sikkens.

race-rodz 09-22-2005 06:39 PM

late 90's ford color i beleive called rio red... its a solid non-metalic red that used a "base" red, and a transparent red mid coat, although there is an alternate formula that is standard BC/CC.... that matches better than the tri-coat formula.

there are a lot of options on the "right" red in ones eyes.... my personal flavor is viper red...i like the orange tint.

awr68 09-22-2005 08:24 PM

I saw a '06 Jetta in Salsa Red the other night that looked nice, it's a deep, but still true red...that's what I'm looking for!! :thumbsup:


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