So, who's going to run an LSx engine package in their 67-69 F-body ??
 

Anty up...... and take the poll.

I just gotta do this to figure out what I can tease you guys with before SEMA. :unibrow:





I guess ignore the 'yes' if you choose a cid. And probally ignore the NA/Forced Induction questions as well.... forgive me, its my first poll. :rolleyes:

Too spendy for my blood. I'm going to stick with a normal Iron smallblock, AL heads and a carb for now...I will probably upgrade to EFI at a later date.

Unless of course I find some absurd deal....but that kinda thing never seems to happen to me.

:P Well, not with that attitude at least....... :P

i dont have an F-body.... and i aint running an LSx.

where is the 340" SB2.2 in a tube chassis race rod catagory??

Ya know how some guys seem to always be the guy who finds a near perfect car behind someones barn for $4, or are always the guy who wins the raffle even though they only bought one ticket.......................I have never been that guy......dosen't stop me from trying though.

You wouldn't happen to have an LS motor that you'd like to trade for 1/2 a bag of M&M's would ya?

Ive never been that guy either...... I feel the pain. But maybe we could work something out. What kinda M&M's were those anyway ??

My next project will have a big inch LSx.



Anybody know of someone putting one of these in their car?

http://www.hotrodlane.cc/81bbcfrontdriver.gif

Well I'm going with my modded ZZ430 for now but next year I should have my hands on the new ls7 500hp small block in my camaro :)

does it come in blue?.......... :D

Cody, it's the Chevy 8.1

Just out of curiosity, what is involved in dropping an LS into a 1st gen?

Is it a huge can of worms?
In the end would it be easier/cheaper (both perhaps) to do something more traditional but with an aftermarket EFI?

Not a F-body, but close enough

No, actually its simple if you have the right stuff. This just happends to be our specialty.......

Things you'll need:

• Engine
• Conversion engine mounts
• Conversion oil pan
• Headers and exhaust
• Transmission
• Transmission install kit to include a cross member, modified hydraulic slave and bracketry
• Driveshaft - Either shorten what you have or have a custom one built to your specs
• Computer/electronics - There are quite a few companies making drop in wiring harnesses into non EFI chassis nowadays
• Fuel system and tank for EFI system

I know I have probably left some things off of the list, but this is these are the main necessities for a swap..... depending on your chassis being a manual or automatic transmission chassis.

If you have a chance to go to SEMA, stop by.... we'll have everything on display. If not, our catalog will be here shortly with a comprehensive laydown on everything about this subject.


I just wish I could leak you guys some pictures....... :_paranoid

I'll be doing a 408 probably when i get around to the motor and have the money ;) I've been starting to read up a lot. I have the bolting stuff up part down but i'll be looking to buy most of the stuff that needs to be fabbed up. I've seen some of your other posts and am looking forward to seeing what you put out and the prices. I will definetly keep a look out ;)

Ok, perhaps I ought to have phrased it differently.
When all is said and done. In terms of cost and difficulty would it be easier to achieve a 450-550hp drivetrain with a t56 or TKO by going with an LSx platform or sticking to something more conventional?

450 - 650 with an LSx and a T56 is a near no-brainer. Its a 'piece-o-pie', cuz all the part are already available and making power with an LSx is way too easy for the modifications and moneies spent.

I wish i had some "monies" lying around to do that... *sigh*

<--- LS2 is on the way baby!

Getting ready to put one together... dont know what i am going to put it into, but it might rent the engine bay of my 68 for a wile.

I think I am going to put an ls1 in my 69. The trick is finding one cheap enough to not break me for the next year. I have seen some pretty decent ones on ebay and a few other websites. I have an 01 ss so I know how easy it is to make power with an ls1.

Funny that you word it in future tense... but yes i will "run" a ls1 in my 68, hell its already in and almost done but not done with the oil plumbing so it isnt safe to "run" :(

It's an easy swap for a used LS1, cheaper then building a sbc, and makes way more power. It is a good choice. ;)

I'm building a '68 mini-tubbed etc. I just picked it up last weekend, pics coming soon...

I'm on the fence over a killer 468 I sold a friend a few years back, not very streetable 12.5-1 roller motor, BUT MAN IT SURE SOUNDS KILLER!!

I like the idea of an LSx 6 speed combo out of a wreck, I found a motor local with all the goods for $2700. I'm not all that concerned about buying a used one, we just had a 2000 Silverado in the shop last week with 220,000 on it!

Why don't i here much about the 6.0 out of a truck? there's alot avalible.

The product I would be into is a resonably priced steel or plastic tank that looks factory and is set up to screw in a stock sending unit and pump combo, oh ya and fit my narrowed leaf springs-Chris

What do you guys think LSx-or 468?

LSx. :thumbsup:

The major difference with the truckmotor is it as a ironblock, otherwise they are the same. If you would go for really big boosted power you really need the iron block. Of course it is heavier than thoe others from aluminum but not heavier than a CSB. One benefit with the truckmotors is the price.

The obvious choice would be to go with the LSx



Jan

I am late to the game as usual, but yes, we will be using the LSx format motor in our project upgrade. Our schedule keeps getting pushed back due to workload and some issues with core level engine parts... Going to try and spend some time on development of a few other parts to suppliment the build later on.

<--- rasing hand

LS2.. an easy 570hp and great street manners, what's not to love :)

This man speaks the truth.. if you try and do a budget deal you can get better performance for the same or less cash.. and less weight.

I will continue to preach, the LS1 will hands down beat any SBC or BBC in the bang for buck category. You cant build a SBC for the amount you can buy a used LS1, plus the LS1 will make more power! The LS1 factory parts can handle WAAYYYY more power then a regular SBC. :thumbsup:

You will LOVE an LSX motor!!! :D

LS1 in a 68 Firebird
 

We are about to do an LS1 in my neighbors 68 F-body. What issues will we have with install? Will the A/C compressor in the stock location clear the right frame rail? Any and all thoughts will be much appreciated.

-Dave

Engine mounts, transmission cross member, clutch hydraulics and the oil pan..... just for starters. The AC compressor will not fit unless you use engine mounts that shove the engine foward.... but that isnt the way to go about it either. There are a few different way to go about the AC compressor but there are some good ones and definately some bad ones........

There are a couple of ways to go about this but just about all the parts you are needing are available through ATS.

What is the cost involved with this swap.

minus the engine/tranny:

A) what are the ancillary parts costs

B) can't think of a B right now

harness work 300-500
pcm reprogram 100-300
or tuner software to program pcm yourself 500-1000
motor mounts 100-200
trany xmember 100-200
fuel tank efi replacement or conversion 500-1000
oil pan 200-500
new or shortened drive shaft 300-500

other possible needs:
o2 sensors &/or wideband for tuning
fuel regulator
fuel line
belt(s)
pullys/brackets
air filter
speedo d/a converter
raidator/fan

Chicane:

What business do you have and how does someone get a catalog?
Anything LS2 oriented, I am interested in.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

tyoneal

I believe he works with ATS, and they have very cool products.

http://www.t56kit.com/

Jody

Jody,

Did I see the Mal on a trailer headed South on I-5 today?

I don't think so! :eek:

Jody

Yes a LS7 in my 69 vert, just waiting on small parts to hear it run and hopefully drive it before snow. :yes:

Show Us!!!!
 

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Of course we want pics!!!!


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