Starting point 69 GTO JUDGE update * 01/01/06
 

The guys are working on fit and finish. I started out with NOS rear quarters, dooor skins, fenders, valance pan, hood and trunk. The roof is the only thing that stayed. I have had the NOS parts for over 28 years.

R.P.

tough
 

That is going to be a brand new Judge. Good thing you had all of the NOS stuff for 28 years. I did the same thing to mine (69 Camaro) but I bought all of the sheet metal in the last 2 years...how about that inflation on NOS parts!

It should move right along now. It seems that it takes forever to get all of the metal work done, the finish work moves right along.

Good luck to you.

Sweet, I love GTOs!!

good luck with it.

SW

Saaa... Heeexxxyyy!

:D

Nice GTO :thumbsup:

I can't imagine what NOS parts go for today? I have noticed NOS metal
was made thicker way back then compared to the metal you buy now.

I had my first garage sale of old original parts from my car at a GTO show a few weeks back. People were helping me take the parts out of my vehicle. I sold $1700 worth of misc. parts in two hours. It was mayhem. The bad news is the cash received went right from my pocket to my wife's while we were still at the show.
LOL

R.P.

Looking good RP. Looks like you beat me with the pictures.LOL
Thanks to SW I was able to find a nos tail panel for my car. You are so right, that stuff is just bette quality than what we can buy now. I felt fortunate to find that piece. Thanks again SW. :thumbsup:

Nice Goat... im looking forward to see how your project goes, i have a '68 and i'm interested in making it a street terror... haven't started anything yet, but i plan to soon


Good luck!

1968 Gto
 

My first GTO was a 68. I'll have some pics with in the next few weeks of the 69 in progress. They'll be of a finished frame, suspension, wheels and engine. Below are pictures of my custom fabricated headers that were made for ground clearance issues. Plus rims and tires.

In the mean time I've listed some specs of the project.


Engine: 428 Pontiac engine. Ported ram air IV heads. Barry Grant 750 DP.
Modified ram air induction system.

Transmission: Tremec TKO 5-speed.

Exhaust: Headers are 2" ceramic coated Hooker pipes with 2 1/2 stainless exhaust with x pipe.

Rear Axle: 4.10

Suspension: Global West all the way around. QA1 front and rear shocks. 3" lowering springs. Front sway bar is 1 1/8.

Steering: AGR quick ratio steering box. AGR power steering pump.

Brakes: Baer all the way around. Hydratech hydroboost brake unit.

Wheels: Billet Specialties. 18x8 and 10x20. Nitro 555 Extreme tires.
Front: 18.40.235 - 4.5 Back spacing
Rear: 20.35.275 - 5.75 Back spacing

More to come.....

R.P.

Love them GTOs! Keep us posted on the progress. :thumbsup:

p.s. nice headers. :unibrow:

GTO frame, engine, wheels forth coming!
 

By the end of October 05 I should have pics. I'm still working on having new stainless brake lines made to fit the Baer brake system along with changes in the brake valve location.

www.motorcitysteel.net who is doing the labor end of things are going crazy. Taking their camera out every day snaping pictures. They will have a detail build up on the project sometime around the first of the year on their website. It truely looks like a American Hot Rod car. Lots of chrome. In a side note, I'm going broke just buying all the nuts and bolts in stainless steel.

I'm I excited? Yeah a little bit. I will be more so once the bodys done.

Stay tuned....

R.P.

Sounds like it will be nice. I also love that fact that it's a poncho motor as well. It is hard to stay faithful with the LSx's putting up such good numbers.

T-Bell
 

There is always someone faster. The 69 GOAT comes in at 3600 pounds. Its never going to set speed records. With the mild mods to the engine it should produce 475-500 HP at the crank, which is respectable. Plus I'm trying to stick to a theme with the car. A 69 Pontiac GTO Judge with a updated safety features and paint scheme which give it a 2000 era look to it.

I beleive they call this a RESTO-MOD. Correct?

R.P.

Correct, I'm going in the same direction. This is why I made the comment. Can't wait to see it.

It always takes longer then expected!
 

Sorry for the delay!

Finally a major step in the right direction. :yes:

R.P.

damn, lookin good roger....

Nice going Roger, looks cool.

I love build pictures. Good stuff, Roger. :thumbsup:

Hella cool!

And yes.. the repo stuff is cuddy compared to the oem parts.. That's one reason I bought Penny (and why I was willing to pay a premium).. she has all original sheet metal.

Getting the reproduction stuff to work on my 69 was hard (and expensive)..

So what color are you going with?

Roger

Looks terrific man!! I love Pontiacs too and so do a few others here (where are you Jonny). If you don't mind, PM me and tell me where your purchased your bellhousing to run a 6 speed behind a B/O/Pontiac motor. That is Cool. My next project is a 70 GTO Vert with a 455, Judge Look etc. Orbit orange or "Cheeze Whiz" Orange. Wheels Brakes etc.

Awesome Car!!

Ummgawa,

Its a 5-speed. It bolts right on to a factory bellhousing unit. Thats what I'm using. Its alum. and lighter then a steel aftermarket unit. Pressure plate even stays the same. Only thing that changes is the clutch and opening in the floor pan for the new trans. The six speed requires major changes. I did not see the use for the 6th gear. Top end of the car does not require it. Plus the 5 speed gives me the overdrive I'm looking for.

R.P.

Fair enough. Thanks for the heads up. Crusher and Gear Vendors Unit, here we come!!

For those that have not seen the artist rendering of the GTO. Click on the attachment. I'm trying to keep the car reminiscent to the muscle car era, yet still have a modern day paint scheme. Black exterior, red interior.


R.P.

:cool: :thumbsup: .

David

I like the rendering, i cant wait to get started, i just recently picked up my '68, your project makes me want to get started right away. Its nice to finally see some Goats getting built into P/T cars. Nice work, im looking forward to the progress.

Feel free to P/M me as you get started on your own project. This is the 3rd time I have reworked this car. I know almost every nut and bolt on these cars. Have sources for used parts, etc. These 68-69's do have style!

R.P.

Scott nice site.Been reading it for awhile and thought I show the car . check out competition-specialties.com build pictures of the 67 camaro

Wow, looks great so far. Not sure I would modify a real Judge because of the current prices they are commanding but it is your car and you can do it how you see fit.

What size are the wheels? IE backspacing. Looks great though.

that little goat is gonna be mighty fine after a little TLC....good luck with it

See page one of thread. I have the tires and back spacing listed there. Modify a real Judge. I say big deal! They made aprox 10,000 GTO Judges in 69. Over 70,000 69 GTO's. If it were a Cuda, with a Chrysler Hemi, yes then you have something. The Judge was named after a skit on a TV show called Laugh In. They are a Pontiac Tempest in sheeps clothing. However, I still love them.

R.P.

Hey Roger, i noticed in this thread you havent said anything about what the interior of your car is going to be like, if your running a cage, new bucket seats, etc. What are you doing for gauges, i really want some new ones but i only want them to work in the stock gauge holes, the link shows stock gauges but its just show the gauge holes.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DN

This is a link to some gauges at Jegs, i especially like these ones because of the 4 in 1 gauge.

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...0339&langId=-1

Nice, Judge Roger,


I can only hope my car turns out half as nice.

What are you going to do for brakes? Stay with the factory stuff or go aftermarket?

68-GTO

Unlike Camaro's we have very few options of fit and finish of gauges in our dashes. Because my car is a Judge I have the hood tach, and the proper gauges within the factory dash. Oil, water temp, etc. No dummy lights.

No cage, as this will be a street car. Factory red interior with console. The trunk will be plain Jane also. I will leave those two projects for another time.

Note: I'm puttting in a kick as_ stereo. Alpine!

Baer brakes on all four. See below for some of the detail work I have done on the car.

R.P.

firewall update
 

When I first took the pictures I thought what the heck is wrong with the camera. Too much glare. Nope, its the reflection from the firewall. 9 weeks to go before Detroit Autorama. I hope I make it.

R.P.

Wow, 9 weeks. Good luck!

Good luck are you going to lower the car or you sticking with the factory stance? I love those cars I hated the stance from the GM. they look to high in the front. :(

OK, Roger, you set the deadline, now get finished already. lol
The car is looking so good from what we can see. I am sure it will turn out just fine. I can not wait to see it finished. :thumbsup: