Not enought stuff for a bodies
 

is it just me, or is all the cool after market stuff just for f bodies? i look around on allmost ever car site link and i see that a bodies get no love. Whats up with that? I want a set of mini tubs and i want cool interior peices too. Come on, when do the mid and full size folks get their x mas?

Yep, F-body's get a lot of love. lol

Lateral-G and Pro-Touring.com are predominantly Camaro-based sites. Probably 90% of their content is devoted to those cars. There are lots of products for A-bodies out there but the majority of their owners are still "lost in the 60's" so the demand for protouring parts isn't as high,,yet.

Yet another reason why us F-body guys love our cars... tons of stuff to choose from :D

good luck on your quest for A-body goods :)

I have a 64' chevelle! I am just going to make most of the stuff for mine! like mini tubs etc.etc.

F-body guys have it easy.................

Helpful Tip #1: Many stock-car guys still use chevelles, so look at places like AFCO and other dirt-track suppliers for affordable suspension parts. :thumbsup:

Try finding pro-touring parts for a Mopar B body

What about this? An IRS for Chevelles and A-bodys

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CORVE...QQcmdZViewItem

Now that is cool. Don't know if $1800 would leave my pocket that easy. But still cool. There is stuff out there. It just takes digging and most of the time waiting. It's like the A-bodies are step children. Suspension parts aren't too hard to come by but it is true that Camaros get more stuff. And I am not even going to get into the BOP thing. Sheesck. This is where ingenuity comes into play.

That looks pretty cool, but the test really points out that it won't drastically lower the car. I wonder how low you can go with that setup...

we had to fabricate most of our crap! :cool:
www.zefhix.com

Only four more weeks until the official debut...I'm exhausted folks, hope you're going to like it.
-Keith

Keith, I've noticed that you haven't been around much lately - I figured the thrash was on. Good luck, and I'm looking forward to seeing it. :thumbsup:

Hey Keith cant wait to see it!!! :willy: :thumbsup:

The hum in the air over here is retarded......we've had a few catastrophes and a few hero stories I plan on making known to everyone as soon as I can...probably after SEMA. I've had two full time jobs since she came back from paint and body. In fact, I'm only typing now because the chemical stripper is fizzling away our 468's and 4L80E's paint so we can apply a multi-stage. Otherwise I'd be back out in the garage right now!.... :willy:

I really want to make sure that I tell the real story with this car. Not the fluffy love magazine article type but the real deal. All the ****; heartaches, realizations, compromises, impossibilities, interventions, a few good men/women, the unbelievable loyalty of one or two people, and the amazing betrayal of others. This build story could read like a hollywood script and anyone close to me or the project knows that I'm telling the truth here. I plan on making sure that everyone knows exactly what has happened as soon as I actually get the car done. I haven't meant to leave everyone in the dark so standby.....

ATS A-body products are on the stove. Be looking out just after the first of the year.

But dont forget Marcus and SC&C. They do the math....

I feel your pain Keith. I have been thru some of the same stuff. It is truely amazing to me how sorry some of the companies we all deal with customer service is. I am talking well know companies that charge top shelf prices. Good Luck with finishing up and I will see you there. I may need help pushing-lol

That IRS is pretty cool. Man, I change my mind enough as it is. If I had an F Body I don't think I would know what to do with all of the choices. :willy:

Sweet!

SW

It looks good, but you're spending WAY too much money for what you get; a carrier bracket and toe rods/mounts for $1800... you still have to buy your own takeoff C4 rear suspension, which isn't that ideal of a IRS setup in the first place (ever see what happens when the halfshafts break?) Also, you're putting that C4 IRS into a car that weighs >500 lbs heavier than the original application, so you're putting more than the design load onto the components.

The semi-bolt on (some welding) idea is cool, but it's way overpriced IMO and for that price you should be installing something better than a C4 setup. Also, they altered the toe rods on the outer carrier blocks-- was any math done on those new toe rods to see how they affected geometry, or was the only consideration "bend 'em till they fit without cutting the car?"

It does look good though. :P

I have a lot of ideas and plans sitting around to re-do my suspension (homebuilt 3-link out back, 3-4" longer LCA/UCA combo up front, etc) but before I build anything I'm going to pick up another frame and box/stiffen it; by that time there may be bolt-ons out there that do what I want. If not, I'll still build my own.

Troy

If its a chassis your looking for, (A-body) look at www.pathfinderchassis.com

They had one of there chassis on display at a show a couple weeks ago and it looked real nice. The whole reason it caught my eye was because they build them for 64-67/68-72 Chevelles and I happen to have a 64 so I had to check into it. I was impressed with the quality and engineering they put into it. They had a LS6 and I believe a T-56 trans if I remember right sitting in it so that also caught my eye. Looked real good.

Kurt

www.autokraft.org

That is SWEET... visually anyways! Tough to make a call without hard numbers.

I wonder how the torsional / longitudanal stiffness numbers compare with a stock chassis, along with weight. It looks like it would be stiffer than the factory piece, and I like the front shock hoops and crossbar to fight frame "sag" under hard loads up front.

Also, I wonder how the suspension geometry is... the front looks like it will have a very aggressive negative camber gain on compression judging by the UCA angle, however scrub radius doesn't look too hot judging by where the balljoints sit in relation to the wheel. I was hoping for a 3-link out back but the 4-bar if done right would work very well. It might be time for a phone call and ask for the numbers-- roll centers, camber/bumpsteer, FVSA, etc, and last but not least, price... :unibrow:

WOW!!!! That thing looked awesome. Yeah price vs real world use would be the thing. You have to remember that these guys are in the racing business. For a daily driver, I think a complete chasis like this would be overkill. In my book anyway. Still sweet to know that they are out there for the people with big wallets.

There was a thread over at PT.com about this chassis and I wasn't to impressed with it considering they build race car chassis. Here is just a short list IMO:

1. FVSA way to short. camber gain in bump has to be crazy
2. Shock hoops have no lateral support and with the coil over not mounted
and will flex in a turn. The tower bar does very little except to transfer
some load to the welds on the other hoop. A Monte Carlo bar would be
better.
3. Billet aluminum solid motor mounts. I hope they are 6061 T6 or forget it.
4. Rod ends in the upper rear link picture look to be radial only so they will
bind almost imediatley
5. Picture may be decieiving but it appears there is very little clearance
between the sway bar arm and the R&P arm. Could be ugly in the right
situation.
6. I also wonder about torsional rigidity. The outer rails look ok, but don't
know about the rest.

Mike

Mike, you summed up a lot of my thoughts. It looks great in pictures until you start to look more closely, which I did just a little while ago. From the very first glance at it I didn't like the UCA angle and my visual guesstimate of the scrub radius didn't look too hot-- heck, my immediate thoughts were "worse than stock." I also didn't like the idea of a 4-link out back-- when I saw rod ends everywhere I immediately thought "factory A-body bind-o-matic" C4L.

I was hoping, just hoping, that being a racing chassis fab shop they would have put *real* geometry into the frame/suspension, but I was worried when they had the frame listed under "street rod" on their webpage-- because when I hear street rod I immediately think beautiful but not very functional/performance oriented. Looks like this may be another classic case of that.

Again, it looks great, but it appears to have "missed the mark" when it comes to performance.

Guess I'll stick with modding the spare factory frame I have, because I can do it right... and probably cheaper.

Troy