ebay scumbags gonna get thiers
 

saw this on another board I frequent....well worth checking out

the whole story

I'm going to be that guy. You never....ever....ever...buy a classic car without putting your eyes or someone you trusts eyes on a car.

I agree I learned my own lesson a few years ago just not to the extreem this guy did. I swore I would never buy a site unseen again and then I bought my Cutlass that way :lol: . Orginal paint and int and 60 pics 20 from underneath there was nothing to hide:thumbsup:

Hey Gear, I hope it gets resolved for you. Very sorry to hear you got screwed over and thanks for the heads up about the P O S that sold you the car. Good luck, and glad you and the wife are safe.

I bet Jeff Schwartz could put a hell of a frame underneath it. That would at least be going in the right direction.

WOW! was that a piece of PCV pipe running down that frame rail?

This is not me just sharing with you guys. I agree the guy should have looked at it but that goes way past differing opinions of a cars condition.

I can't even remember how many times I've seen and heard of this happening. I have had several cars dropped-off at the shop that were along these lines. I had one customer buy a car that was advertised by the seller as "Ready to paint". After I removed all of the Duraglass, rivets, and seam sealer, his "ready to paint" car needed a new firewall, full floor, rocker work, A-pillar repair, roof repair, quarter repair, etc, etc. His car was so bad that unibody sections were not even attached anymore. Todd is absolutely right. If you can't look at it yourself, pay someone you trust to do so. It will save you tons of time and $$$ in the end.

I wish you the best and hope this ends positively for you.

WE had a guy bring a 69 Camaro Convertable by the shop for us to have a look at and do a quot for the insurance company, when the transporter was delivering the car it rolled off the top deck and landed on the rear tail pan!!!! and totally F'ed up the back of the car, ok e bought the car off ebay for 25,000.00 ............ first mistake! didn't go look at the car, second mistake!!!
it was a 6 cylinder, Third mistake!!!! and the car was absolutly JUNK!!! there was NOTHING good about it!!! 25K
why don't people buy a 400.00 plane ticket and go look at the car???
i don't get it

I would NEVER part with my hard earned money without seeing in person what I was getting. Like Ronald Reagan always said, "Trust but verify".

I'm sure that'll buff right out...:yes:

I am not by any means defending this, however, what did they guy think he was buying for $15k? That should have been a big red flag. Coupes in this good of shape are about $20-30k and convertibles are even harder to find and thus more expensive. One in this 'good' of shape would have been 30-40k. They didn't list the car as an original 442, but that would have pushed this close to 100k. The guy got greedy, didn't perform due diligence and got smoked. An expensive lesson for sure. As for the car sellers, well, karma is a bitch.

Can you imagine the mess under that white paint?

Darren

I have some questions.. Is the car #'s matching? Other than the floors is the body solid? What is this car worth if it was in the exact condition that this a@#$(%e stated? I can't believe this s@*t goes on today. People have alot of balls to and pull crap like this off. WOW!!! I hope this works out for you..

Not matching anything. Just a done up cutlass convertible. Based on my experience it would be a 15-18K car realisticly.

Reality looks like a $ 3500.00 parts car :yes:

I agree I would be more inclined to go see an older/classic car in person before buying sight unseen, but I can say I have bought 2 later model cars (both 2001s) out of state and sight-unseen. But I had very detailed pictures, descriptions, etc and both cars turned out to be better than I had expected when I picked them up. Just sayin....

in the email responses

and that justifies everything?


scumbags

Man, I'm sorry to hear that. I think I would have to find this guy and hang him up by his *****, I can't say that on this website, but you get what I mean. It's a shame to see crooked people out there stealing peoples hard earned money, especially in this day and age.

This is exactly what these used car dealers that specialize in muscle cars do everyday of the week.

The buy some rotted out POS and throw on $500 paint, $800 of interior, $1200 in wheels, tires and brakes.. then bingo; $25K HOT ROD with 52,000 original miles that some grandma owned.


Not all used car lots are like this but the majority are exactly as portrayed in the movies.

Scum bags.

... I've seen some around here do that, but periodically (I assume when the lawsuits start) close and then reopen under a different name.

buyer beware.
 

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1 NEVER EVER PERIOD buy a classic car sight unseen I do not care who is selling it


2 Nothing he can do the auction CLEARLY stated it was as is where is and they even went so far as to say that all older cars like this have issues that need fixing.

simple fact he screwed himself by making a new buyer mistake he trusted someone on ebay.

caveat emptor

Let the buyer beware

He doesnt have a legal leg to stand on.. the seller never once made any promise anywhere that i saw saying that the frame was in good condition or was not in need of repair he simply showed and talked up the good parts of the car and hid the bad ..

gratned i think hes a scum bag but it realy isnt anything that doesnt happen every day on ebay.

The scumbag is a licensed dealer. Hopefully he will lose his license. He states..."We have provided as much information as we can to assist bidders".
No he didn't . He purposely left out the worst part of the car. "It sits up proud and is completely ready to enjoy"....as long as you don't drive it.

I was duped in the same sort of way, but not by a dealer, but one with perfect eBay credit. I took his word for it. The car I got was a complete mess. I had 2 options. Sell the car and try and recoup my money knowing that I would be doing this same thing to someone else, or build up a car to my specs. I could not do this to someone else, but I did think if I at least told someone about the car, I could sell it that way, but I would have lost a lot of money in a week or two's time. I was so dejected by this, after thinking about it, I just could not do it to someone else, so I built up the car I have now. I would very much encourage anyone buying a car sight unseen, to ask the online group to at least look at the car in question. You just never know.