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Matt@BOS 05-27-2009 09:59 PM

69 Camaro at Best of Show
 
Hi everyone, I've been lurking around here for quite some time and figured it was time to finally start a progress thread for our car. Those of you that have picked up the latest issue of Camaro Performers might have noticed it in the F-body garage section, its the one pictured with the Detroit Speed subframe and LS2. Anyway, big thanks to Steve Rupp for the ink. We're thrilled and honored you thought our car was cool enough to include.

I posted an introduction of the car a while back, but didn't feel like digging it up again so here is a brief rundown of the parts, but first thanks to a bunch of vendors from this forum, namely Jon at Driverz inc, Tobin at Kore 3, as well as Tyler and the Anvil gang. Doing this for the first time has been a learning experience and all of you have been beyond helpful.

The big parts:

DSE sub and quadralink with minitubs
Forgeline ZX3Ps, 18x9 and 18x12
C6 Z06 brakes
510 hp LS2 from Turnkey
Vintage Air front runner
billet brushed valve covers from nasty performance
t56 with viper internals
Anvil hood and cowl panel
Marquez front valance

Most of the major parts have already been ordered so the project is going to be moving along pretty quickly from here on out, so if you guys aren't tired of '69 camaros, I'm sure there will be plenty of pictures to look at over the next several months.

On to the pictures. It's kind of hard to tell at first how for the car has come, but it started as a shell and is now close to paint.

this was from the ebay ad
[IMG]http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo103/69MSA/8533_1JPG.jpg[/IM
G]

quadralink installed:

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC00776.jpg

trans tunnel modified:

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC00778.jpg

wheels, I never get tired of looking at these wheels:

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC00695.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC00696.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC00765.jpg
here it is mocked up with the suspension and engine/ tans

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC00790.jpg
LS2 being fired up for the first time. We were hoping it would sound nasty, but the truck muffler kept it sounding rather benign
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC00761.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC00763.jpg

From here the car from Hot Rods and Custom Stuff to Best of Show. Hot Rods did a great job installing the tubs, etc. but I'll be honest, we just love the atmosphere at Best of Show, not to mention they're nicer, they're cheaper, they're genuinely interested in the project and they do amazing work. After arrival the car got taken apart to be soda blasted, as you can see it was pretty clean under all of the bondo, the previous owner had the quarters and fenders replaced, and work was pretty good.

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/10p2a1x.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC00838.jpg
the aftermarket fenders have needed a little bit of work, and are still being fit now. Here we found that Hot Rods had decided to cut them, it was a bit of a surprise.
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSC00828-1.jpg

Matt@BOS 05-27-2009 10:00 PM

Since everything else was so nice, we had to smooth the firewall, here it is coming together:
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop001.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop003.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop002.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop006.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop010.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop008.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop076.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop078.jpg

Matt@BOS 05-27-2009 10:00 PM

Then the shell got blocked and primed:
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop080.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop081.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop083.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop086.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop088.jpg

Undercoating:
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop093.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...SA/shop094.jpg

Finally coming back together:
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC_0726.jpg
the Anvil good is great:
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC_0733.jpg

the Marquez Valance needed a little something to complement it so I sketched up some ideas, and with some practical knowledge from the Best of Show guys, we ended up with this idea.

without anything:
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC_0728.jpg

Chin Spoiler mocked up in cardboard:
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...521091358a.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...521091358b.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...521091359a.jpg


I think that takes the project all the way up to its current progress. We've got an RS grill in boxes inside the car, and some Mercedes SL exhaust tips on order. once the exhaust gets fit into the tail panel it will be time for paint. I can't wait :D

Once again, for all of you guys out there that have had a hand in helping us get our parts, or in working on the car, we can't thank you enough. I wrote for Camaro performers that my dad and I had more passion than knowledge, and while we've learned a ton, it really is true. The car wouldn't be anywhere close to what it is now without everyone's knowledge.

Matt

Steve1968LS2 05-27-2009 10:20 PM

Cool.. I can even post progress pics in here.. lol

That's the Track Rat behind Matt's car in some of those shots..

That thing has the perfect stance right now, hopefully you can keep it that low.

70rs 05-27-2009 10:23 PM

Nice work! Thanks for posting so much info and pics. Keep it coming!:thumbsup:

tmadden 05-28-2009 03:34 AM

Nice project
 
The dash and interior work looks killer. This will be a super car when its complete. Keep the pics coming.

ironworks 05-28-2009 07:22 AM

Sharp lookin camaro.

Teetoe_Jones 05-28-2009 09:19 AM

We have a saying on the west coast when it comes to body shops:

If you didn't go to Best Of Show, you don't know D!ck. (D!ck is the owner of the shop BTW.)

Matt-

Looks great. what color are you going to go with?

Tyler

rogue 05-28-2009 10:26 AM

when im done beating my car into the ground I plan on bringing it to Best of Show for the full treatment. Nothing but amazing work out of there :yes:

Matt@BOS 05-28-2009 12:25 PM

Haha, Steve your cars show up everywhere, I wouldn't be surprised if Penny was under a cover in the background somewhere.

Picking a color has been difficult, everyone at the shop jokes that we know exactly what we want, except for the color, which is true. The car is going to be a dark charcoal color, with a hockey stripe. We recently decided on the main color, which is called alloy gray. Here it is on a member's Shelby:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...ghlight=shelby

I've been working on finishing up the sketches I came up with to give the Best of Show guys some direction and idea of the couple subtle touches that are being added, here's the first one:

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...00dfcc34-1.jpg

Matt

tones2SS 05-28-2009 01:39 PM

Looking very good Matt. Keep up the great work & keep us posted.:thumbsup:

Rybar 05-28-2009 01:59 PM

Does look awesome, please keep us posted with updates. :thumbsup:

nvr2fst 05-28-2009 07:49 PM

Nice looking car Matt.
Whats your measurement from ground to rocker?
I like the added chin spoiler touch.

89 RS 05-29-2009 11:07 AM

Very nice...Can't wait to see more!

Matt@BOS 05-30-2009 01:58 PM

You know, I'm not sure how high it is off the ground at the rockers. We were looking at it yesterday, and came to the conclusion it's just low, but sits about perfect the way it is. I can tell you though that we (well, best of show) are going going to be playing around with the inner fenders and cutting the inside of the inner fender by the wheel lip so that it will be able to turn lock-to-lock. The front is also probably a couple inches lower than the back. When it is off the lift next week I'll get you an exact number on the ride height.

redfire69 06-02-2009 03:29 AM

Looks great :thumbsup: Can't wait to follow the progress!

68/Camaro 06-02-2009 06:51 AM

Nice Project Matt! Looking Awesome!:thumbsup:

Steve1968LS2 06-28-2009 12:35 PM

Saw the progress yesterday.. man, that Camaro is going to ride LOW!

http://i41.tinypic.com/2di3fae.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/n656rn.jpg

tones2SS 06-28-2009 12:54 PM

WOW!!
Very nice. That is going to ride low.:thumbsup: :cheers:

customcam 06-28-2009 06:48 PM

Verry cool
Whose VC are those? Um we need more pics like those Steve :thumbsup:

Matt@BOS 06-28-2009 08:42 PM

Steve, thanks for putting up those pics. I was going to post an update on the inner fenders, exhaust, and chin spoiler, until I realized our camera got left in Vegas, (don't worry, its getting shipped back). So as you guys can see, Best of Show has been busy making those 255s (and hopefully eventually 275s) turn lock to lock. I think they all agreed that the car HAD to be able to drive just the way it sat when it rolled in.

Customcam, by VC= valve covers, right? If so they're from nastyperformance.com

Stay tuned guys, the saga of opening up the quarter gills looks to be happening next.

Matt

Matt@BOS 07-01-2009 08:36 PM

Here are a couple more pictures that were taken over the last couple of weeks.

Before the inner fenders were nice and pretty, they looked like this: http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC_0880.jpg

And a couple of shots of the front chin spoiler, just about finished.
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC_0866.jpg

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC_0867.jpg

Just out of curiosity, what do you guys prefer for the chin spoiler, flat black, or brushed aluminum, with a clear powdercoat?

1badchevelle 07-01-2009 08:52 PM

brushed aluminum.:unibrow:

Lenie 07-01-2009 08:53 PM

Could you please ship me that spoiler, thanks.:lol: , no, seriously.
Nice work.

Vegas69 07-01-2009 10:07 PM

Nice project man. I really don't think those inner fender mods are going to help get you lock to lock at low ride height though. I always have problems on the lip not the inner fender.

zbugger 07-01-2009 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 221115)
Nice project man. I really don't think those inner fender mods are going to help get you lock to lock at low ride height though. I always have problems on the lip not the inner fender.

I don't know about that. It looks like the lip has been modified in those pics.

That car looks insanely low. I love it. I can't wait to see more on this car.

MarkM66 07-02-2009 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbugger (Post 221116)
I don't know about that. It looks like the lip has been modified in those pics.

That car looks insanely low. I love it. I can't wait to see more on this car.

I think it could go either way, depending on the offset of the wheel.

But since the car is together, I'm sure they've figured out if it works or not. :)

tones2SS 07-02-2009 09:34 AM

That looks killer Matt. Great build.
Love the chin spoiler.:thumbsup:

boonedog 07-02-2009 02:02 PM

car is lookn very nice:thumbsup:

awr68 07-02-2009 02:31 PM

Looking great!! Love the chin spoiler...I would leave it brushed to go with the wheels.

Matt@BOS 07-02-2009 05:16 PM

Thanks for the input guys.

Todd, the I was like you and a bit cynical of whether the inner fender mods would work, but they do. The bigger question is whether or not the mods will actually make a huge difference, I've heard these cars with the DSE sub isn't great a small tight turns anyway. What has your experience been?

So yesterday I decided the brake calipers needed to be powder coated. If anyone is on the fence about powder coating their c6 z06 calipers, my suggestion would be to be happy with the factory bright red. I thought it wouldn't be too expensive, maybe 50 for new seals and a couple hundred for powder coating, but GM only sells seals with pistons so everything ended up costing around 400, plus another 400 for powder coating. Should have done some research before tearing the brakes down, oh well. The whole powder coating issue has led me to a much bigger problem though, what color to paint the brakes, ultimately what color to paint the accent stripe, red or blue? If the hockey stick stripe is red, the calipers will be gray with red lettering. If the stripe is blue, then calipers would either be primarily grey, or blue with contrasting lettering. So many little decisions :willy:

here are two spray outs:
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC_0921.jpg
I've always liked red because I first envisioned kind of a dark, sinister car, but the blue really does, pop and is different. Opinions are welcome so long as they're for red :lol: . Everyone at Best of Show likes blue, what do you guys think?

Also here is a scrap panel that BOS cut up to test out how to open the gills.
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC_0922.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC_0924.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...A/DSC_0925.jpg

Matt

customcam 07-02-2009 05:22 PM

Matt yeah the VCovers are nice. Cant wait to see it Painted

dodge 07-02-2009 05:22 PM

IMO..A darker blue would work better.Be a more subtle contrast.Perhaps even a metalic pearl blue to be something completely different..Just throwing ideas out there for you :)

Steve1968LS2 07-02-2009 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodge (Post 221254)
IMO..A darker blue would work better.Be a more subtle contrast.Perhaps even a metalic pearl blue to be something completely different..Just throwing ideas out there for you :)

That pic doesn't do that blue justice.. it's much darker and richer in person.. close to my WRX blue (on my '69)

I really like the blue.. it just goes so nice with the charcoal grey body color. We could powder your calipers to match and the car would have a ZR1 flair to it.

:)

dodge 07-02-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 221257)
That pic doesn't do that blue justice.. it's much darker and richer in person.. close to my WRX blue (on my '69)

I really like the blue.. it just goes so nice with the charcoal grey body color. We could powder your calipers to match and the car would have a ZR1 flair to it.

:)

Cool Steve..It looked a little bright on my screen here:)

Matt@BOS 07-02-2009 10:01 PM

Yeah, the blue definitely looks a lot brighter in that picture than under any other light. I think the color actually has a fair amount of pearl in it, same with the charcoal. If I were to stand the panel up without direct light, the colors would be a medium blue and almost metallic black like grey. I'll get a better picture tomorrow. Oh decisions, decisions. I guess I'll have a color picked sometime next week since the brakes are at the powder coat company and they're going to want to do something soon.

Matt

tones2SS 07-03-2009 01:58 PM

With either color, it will look awesome.
I'm digging both color schemes, so I see where you have a hard time deciding. Keep us posted.:cheers:

Gordz32 07-03-2009 08:20 PM

Blue..Cough..Cough..Blue!

Vegas69 07-05-2009 06:29 PM

No real problems Matt. On the street it's always been good with very little camber. However, the last track was very tight and I had just jumped up to 275's and new wheels. It rubbed good on the fender lip. I am putting more camber in it and may raise the front a little if needed. Race and street setup are really two different animals.

brotourer 07-09-2009 07:46 PM

ohhhhh matt,
your car is going to look so super with the blue accents!

love,
your favorite fabricator, b(r)ad penny

ps. the chin spoiler and side vents are the kronicals of gnarnia


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