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rogue 12-05-2009 03:53 PM

A reminder why bolt in cages are a bad idea.
 
http://www.stinkybeaner.com/uploads/...5/mcrash00.jpg

http://www.stinkybeaner.com/uploads/...5/mcrash06.jpg

Note the Cage sticking through the floor....
http://www.stinkybeaner.com/uploads/...5/mcrash09.jpg

Cage didn't do much when it punches a hole through the floor.
http://www.stinkybeaner.com/uploads/...5/mcrash02.jpg

Driver was OK but this is a simple reminder to not half ass or do 'temporary' measures when it comes down to your safety.

BlackenedRR 12-05-2009 04:15 PM

WOW!! I wouldn't think a cage like that would make it through tech, but I don't know jack about these things.

WSSix 12-05-2009 04:20 PM

If it was welded in in the same manner and location, it would have done the same thing. That was very poorly installed regardless of bolted in or welded in. If bolts can hold skyscrapers together, they can hold a cage in a car together.

71RS/SS396 12-05-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 252718)
If it was welded in in the same manner and location, it would have done the same thing. That was very poorly installed regardless of bolted in or welded in. If bolts can hold skyscrapers together, they can hold a cage in a car together.

X2 It shouldn't be attached to the floor pan the way it was

Vegas69 12-05-2009 05:05 PM

How in the hell did he live through that? He better start going to the early and late service.:D

awr68 12-05-2009 05:11 PM

That's one lucky driver!!

fleet 12-05-2009 05:41 PM

Gives new meaning to 'tuck and roll'. :wow:

BlackenedRR 12-05-2009 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 252723)
How in the hell did he live through that? He better start going to the early and late service.:D

And buying lottery tickets...

zbugger 12-05-2009 06:32 PM

Look again. It's not even a cage. It's just a roll bar. I can't see through the doors, but I'd imagine it was just a 4 point. I wouldn't imagine it would do anything for support and safety in that sort of situation.

jst8a5.0 12-05-2009 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 252723)
How in the hell did he live through that? He better start going to the early and late service.:D

HAHA, AND wed night!

Bakaruda 12-05-2009 08:32 PM

I am glad the driver was okay.

WSSix 12-06-2009 05:54 AM

I think you're right Allen. That looks like it was nothing but a harness bar or chassis brace not a roll bar. I don't see a halo or forward tubes, just a main hoop.

89 RS 12-06-2009 08:09 AM

That's insane. Glad the driver was ok.

dropit69 12-06-2009 08:56 AM

and why is there that type of fence there looks to me like the fence caused him to flip over..id rather see more tire barriers or haystacks..

mexMan 12-06-2009 09:31 AM

That's a really unfortunate accident, BUT I don't think the bolt-on factor had the fault for what happened to the top, bolt on cages are as strong as welded ones, what makes 'em weak is the placement, I don't think that cage was bolted right, or placed right, I mean, it wasn't strong enough for the weigh of the car all on the top of it, and, of course the cage broke the floor and bended, if a welded cage is poorly welded can do the same, or if it's not right placed too. I think one of the most important stuff to do the math while installing it is the roll cage. ALWAYS is important to do the math about safety. Bolt on cage is the option I want to use for my car, as soon as I get one :).

70rs 12-06-2009 10:27 AM

Looks like there is another Ford modular motor ready for a kit car build.....:D



Glad the driver was ok. But he needs to have a chat with whoever installed that cage.

nvr2fst 12-06-2009 11:09 AM

OMG
Im surprised the driver substained minor. The flattening of the roof would make me think otherwise.
Agreed- nothing wrong with bolt in as long as you dont have this guy do it.

BRIAN 12-06-2009 01:13 PM

Anybody on here who builds cages for a living?? Curious as to reason for failure. The bar looks as if it was mounted to the rocker area vs the floor. Could the size of the pad made the difference? Although one would have to assume some art of it was simply bolted through the floor? Wish there were better pics. Could it have been unavoidable because of freak point of impact and how car landed?

By the way it did work to some degree as he walked away. Either he is one short MF of very lucky!!!

tyoneal 12-07-2009 02:40 AM

Shouldn't the safety standards set forth by the Feds have required a top that would not flatten out like that?

Aren't they suppose to hold like 2 or 3 times their weight for a certain period of time before they have a failure?

That might as well have been a rag top to start with.

Damn!

Ty


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