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70rs 01-30-2010 08:34 AM

Optima Challenge Is On Now...
 
On Speed right now.:thumbsup:

This is very cool for me to watch. I just wish I had been there in person to see it. All of the cars are looking great.

GregWeld 01-30-2010 08:51 AM

Being there was better than sex :D

98ssnova 01-30-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 265945)
Being there was better than sex :D

I dont think so buddy:rofl: :rofl: I love cars but i love sex more......:cheers:

radrambler 01-30-2010 08:57 AM

ok
 
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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 265945)
Being there was better than sex :D

I was gonna say "thats what happens when you get old"..:rofl:
But even us younger guys(38) love watching cars throw down...but i think by now most of us have realized its more fun to be at a car event than cooped up in the bedroom..now matter how hot the a$$ is
They need to show more action....:(

Tom

FoxRod 01-30-2010 09:03 AM

Maybe next year they ought to do it like over a month program. 1 hour show of each event and one show to touch on the cars individually.

Chuck Byram 01-30-2010 09:08 AM

The Challenge program was OUTSTANDING! My hat's off to everybody who had a hand in it. You put on an exciting show and made us all look good!
Second favorite quote: "Trailers are for boats!"
First favorite quote: "BLEEP! Stick you piece of crap, STICK!"

Vegas69 01-30-2010 09:08 AM

That show got my motor running.....:yes:

70rs 01-30-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 265954)
That show got my motor running.....:yes:

Did that make you want to go hammer some corners Todd?:D It did that to me! My poor truck is about to get thrashed on:lol:

Vegas69 01-30-2010 09:37 AM

It makes me want to compete...

BlackenedRR 01-30-2010 10:11 AM

I recorded it on DVD, can't wait til I can sit down to watch it tonight...

67ragtp 01-30-2010 10:34 AM

Great show,cool to see many of the top pro-touring cars in the country on the track.
Im curious what you guys honestly think about the cobra competeing against these heavier cars, to me it just seemed to be a bit of a mismatch, perhaps a weight limit of 2700lbs and up should be considered. It will be interesting to see if that car returns next year. Great show!

Rich

camcojb 01-30-2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 67ragtp (Post 265968)
Great show,cool to see many of the top pro-touring cars in the country on the track.
Im curious what you guys honestly think about the cobra competeing against these heavier cars, to me it just seemed to be a bit of a mismatch, perhaps a weight limit of 2700lbs and up should be considered. It will be interesting to see if that car returns next year. Great show!

Rich

he's not invited for this years competition.

Jody

OLDFLM 01-30-2010 11:09 AM

What a GREAT show!! Congrats to Jimi and everyone who participated!!!

IF you watch real hard and don't blink you can see the FREEDOM BIRD in the background as Rupp wheels BAD PENNY out of SEMA... I was taking pics of everyone as they were driving out and had no idea they were filming...

I knew I should have gotten autographs at SEMA! LOL

chr2002ca 01-30-2010 11:13 AM

Damn that was a lot of fun to watch. Congrats to all those who participated. I'm headed out to the garage...:lol:

buickfunnycar.com 01-30-2010 11:14 AM

I'm working so I gotta wait till tomorrow...:mad:

ccracin 01-30-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 265971)
he's not invited for this years competition.

Jody

I don't think that is the right thing to do. The previous winner should be an automatic invite. The next winner can't claim to be the "Ultimate" without beating the previous winner. Everyone now knows what they have to shoot for. Coming from a racing background I am never a fan of changing the rules to eliminate competition. If it is a true street legal car then go for it. If you want to change the rules to more clearly define "Street" then that is fine, but I think you gotta run the Cobra at least one more time.

By the way, I think for 1 hour, the coverage was excellent. I want more! Great jobe to all that participated and put the show on. This was just what I needed on a 20 degree day in south west PA! :hail: :lateral: :woot:

JohnC 01-30-2010 11:38 AM

I'm curious if there will be any changes to tire regulations next year also? :question:

...or if more new "street" tires are comming out? .....hmmmm...:_paranoid

clill 01-30-2010 12:09 PM

I think the Cobra will be invited back to run exhibition class. It is not really a street car and wasn't driven by the owner or the builder. He was invited because he won a Goodguys autocross. It is a killer car but in reality I don't think any of the cars on this site stand a chance against it so it would basically kill anyone busting their butt to make the event because we would all be fighting for 2nd place. Great car but he had the gun at a knife fight.

HOLOHAN'S HOT ROD SHOP 01-30-2010 12:21 PM

I agree, another good show by Bud Brutsman. He's definately got some talent, along with a great team with him to produce a quality show.

camcojb 01-30-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ccracin (Post 265980)
I don't think that is the right thing to do. The previous winner should be an automatic invite. The next winner can't claim to be the "Ultimate" without beating the previous winner. Everyone now knows what they have to shoot for. Coming from a racing background I am never a fan of changing the rules to eliminate competition. If it is a true street legal car then go for it. If you want to change the rules to more clearly define "Street" then that is fine, but I think you gotta run the Cobra at least one more time.

By the way, I think for 1 hour, the coverage was excellent. I want more! Great jobe to all that participated and put the show on. This was just what I needed on a 20 degree day in south west PA! :hail: :lateral: :woot:

read Charley's response for more info. It's not a street driven car anymore, I think he said it had been tracked only since the 70's, no street time at all since then. The owner didn't drive the car, had a friend drive it who was a national autocross champion and I believe owns a driving school. So in essence anybody now has to compete against a pro in a race car if they want to knock him off the top. I don't know of a true street car that will do that.

I had no problem with him competing, he earned it by winning a Goodguys autocross event which automatically qualified him for the shootout. Super nice guys and a very cool car, but it'd take a race car most likely to compete with him, as his is a race car with a pro driver, and a substantial weight advantage.

As Charley mentioned, they might bring him back for the exhibition class, they had other race cars in that class running last year, cool to see.

Jody

coolwelder62 01-30-2010 01:01 PM

I hope I can win a goodguys autox in 2010 so we can come back.My friend Boris Said he would drive my car next time.:lol: :lol:

camcojb 01-30-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 265993)
I hope I can win a goodguys autox in 2010 so we can come back.My friend Boris Said he would drive my car next time.:lol: :lol:

that'll work Scott................ :rofl:

GregWeld 01-30-2010 03:32 PM

I agree with Charley -- The Cobra was super kool --- and was an absolute treat to watch! And, like they said on the show - seeing one of these compete and really get thrashed on, is rare, but it shouldn't really be considered as a street car.

Watching this event on TV wasn't the same as being there - but they did a good job of showing how hard these cars were pushed. Watching it brought back good memories of a great day... and I was just a spectator!

Great group of people - great group of cars! Kudos to Optima and all of the other sponsors.

Finch 01-30-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnC (Post 265981)
I'm curious if there will be any changes to tire regulations next year also? :question:

...or if more new "street" tires are comming out? .....hmmmm...:_paranoid


The tire rule has changed and will be 200 TW.

Stuart Adams 01-30-2010 03:34 PM

With no Cobra it will be very competitive next year. It will be interesting to see the changes people have to make to get into that 1:47 or so time on the track to compete with DSE, Marks new car, and Jackass. Can't wait already.

Enjoyed the telecast today. Good job to all the Optima guys, great event for all of us.

MattG 01-30-2010 03:50 PM

That was so cool to watch! Got me fired up and I wanted to go drive some, then I remembered the 3 inches of snow that just fell...Dohhh! :willy:

David Pozzi 01-30-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuart Adams (Post 266007)
With no Cobra it will be very competitive next year. It will be interesting to see the changes people have to make to get into that 1:47 or so time on the track to compete with DSE, Marks new car, and Jackass. Can't wait already.

Enjoyed the telecast today. Good job to all the Optima guys, great event for all of us.

If the Treadwear's 200 for 2010, the track times set by the Cobra, DSE, and Jackass from last year's OPTIMA event should be pretty safe. Those cars ran DOT "race" rubber, i.e. Hoosier A6's, BFG R1's, etc. Their treadwear is 30 or 40 which is pretty damn soft.

And I don't think the Cobra won a Good Guys autocross but rather just asked to compete. Not entirely sure, though. The owner was at the Pleasanton Good Guys last June but ran the Hoosiers on the Cobra so could only do exhibition. He struggled on that tight course.

David Pozzi

camaro41701 01-30-2010 04:20 PM

Does anyone stick the tires to check the compound?We always checked the tires with what I think was called a dyrometer.

ccracin 01-30-2010 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 265992)
read Charley's response for more info. It's not a street driven car anymore, I think he said it had been tracked only since the 70's, no street time at all since then. The owner didn't drive the car, had a friend drive it who was a national autocross champion and I believe owns a driving school. So in essence anybody now has to compete against a pro in a race car if they want to knock him off the top. I don't know of a true street car that will do that.

I had no problem with him competing, he earned it by winning a Goodguys autocross event which automatically qualified him for the shootout. Super nice guys and a very cool car, but it'd take a race car most likely to compete with him, as his is a race car with a pro driver, and a substantial weight advantage.

As Charley mentioned, they might bring him back for the exhibition class, they had other race cars in that class running last year, cool to see.

Jody

No arguments there Jody. I guess no matter how good the coverage, this kind of stuff just doesn't get out in the open without sites like this. I still stand by my first comment, changing rules to eliminate competition is never a good thing. But, in this case it sounds like he got in through a "loop hole". If rules get changed to maintain the spirit of the whole competition then that is not a bad thing. Thanks to all of you that were there giving the whole story.

:cheers:

coolwelder62 01-30-2010 04:27 PM

I think I will go to the shop start building an alum. body for my camaro.That and my friend Boris Said he would drive should give me an unfair advantage which is what a sunoco camaro should have.:thumbsup:

JohnC 01-30-2010 04:54 PM

:rofl:
Quote:

Originally Posted by finch (Post 266006)
The tire rule has changed and will be 200 TW.

Ahhhh! can you say P-S-2's......

What an awesome event....and what a bunch of comedians....

"trailers are for boats"....:rofl:

..."don't tell my wife I said that" :lol:

How many times can I replay this before I break my dvr???

coolwelder62 01-30-2010 05:08 PM

Well I guess I will put the PS2's back on.And body want to buy a set of BFG's R1's only used on 1 sunday afternoon to go to church.Like cond.:lol:

Steve1968LS2 01-30-2010 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clill (Post 265984)
I think the Cobra will be invited back to run exhibition class. It is not really a street car and wasn't driven by the owner or the builder. He was invited because he won a Goodguys autocross. It is a killer car but in reality I don't think any of the cars on this site stand a chance against it so it would basically kill anyone busting their butt to make the event because we would all be fighting for 2nd place. Great car but he had the gun at a knife fight.

I felt bad for the driver Jim.. he didn't even exist in the show or in many of print stories.. I felt bad he beat me in the autox until Dave told me he founded the Evolution Autocross Schools. lol

The opening line in my caption about the Cobra is "We never stood a chance..." And I said we were relegated to fighting for 2nd place.

Great event, great show and it's an honor to be associated with all of you. :thumbsup:

Steve1968LS2 01-30-2010 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro41701 (Post 266019)
Does anyone stick the tires to check the compound?We always checked the tires with what I think was called a dyrometer.

Nothing that fancy.. they operated on the honor system and just checked the tires treadwear rating.

sixtnine 01-30-2010 06:52 PM

First I would like to say the event coverage was great. I just happened to be flipping channels when I saw it comming on. When someone said earlier it would take a race car to beat the Cobra the first one that came to mind was Big Red. Any opinions how Big Red would do?

Steve1968LS2 01-30-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sixtnine (Post 266057)
First I would like to say the event coverage was great. I just happened to be flipping channels when I saw it comming on. When someone said earlier it would take a race car to beat the Cobra the first one that came to mind was Big Red. Any opinions how Big Red would do?

BR would lose.. well, unless it was a top speed acceleration deal. The power to weight to tire contact patch math just favors the Cobra. BR isn't made for quick handling. It's made for a specific task which it does VERY well.

Vegas69 01-30-2010 08:51 PM

Big red is not a multi purpose car. That's the beauty of the Optima challenge, it's a combination of exactly what we are all striving for around here. Highly capable in a road race, autocross, trip up the coast, and winning the car show. It's not easy to walk the centerline.

awr68 01-30-2010 10:01 PM

Great show! But like Greg said, it's MUCH more fun being there!! :yes:

Good to see so many of our 'family' in the show...great job guys - and Mary! :lateral:

And hats off to Optima and all the make it happen!! :thumbsup:

Finch 01-31-2010 07:34 AM

There are more rule changes for this year around who can drive the car in the competition as well as a drive portion to prove out the street manners of these cars. This along with 200 TW tires will make for some close and intense action.

I feel this event is starting to change the hobby. Until now most of the big name shops built cars just for the SEMA show, Now they will build cars just for Optima and swing by SEMA on the way to the track.


What a great year we have ahead of us.

Rybar 01-31-2010 09:50 AM

Just watched it on my PVR.

Very cool show and congrats to all of you who made it on. Whoever produced the show did an amazing job of showcasing the cars, events and people.


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