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XcYZ 04-27-2010 10:46 AM

DSE subframe
 
I'm changing my subframe, going with DSE. It's at Autokraft getting painted. I hope to pick it up Friday afternoon, schedule permitting.

I'll post more pics of my garage subframe swap as I move forward. :thumbsup:



So.... out with the old...

http://lateral-g.org/temp/frame_out_08.jpg

http://lateral-g.org/temp/frame_out_09.jpg

96z28ss 04-27-2010 10:50 AM

Wow, didn't think the front sheet metal would stay in place when the subframe was pulled.

fesler 04-27-2010 10:50 AM

cars are never done are they? you have a nice set up already why the change

XcYZ 04-27-2010 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 284585)
Wow, didn't think the front sheet metal would stay in place when the subframe was pulled.

Yep, not a problem. :cheers:

XcYZ 04-27-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fesler (Post 284587)
cars are never done are they? you have a nice set up already why the change

lol, no, never done.

Why the change? Well, I was either going to sell my car and start a new project, or just update what I had into what I would have just build from scratch. :thumbsup:

n2protour 04-27-2010 10:58 AM

nice car, even the garage is nice :yes:

67ragtp 04-27-2010 11:04 AM

Scott - is that the height the car was at when the sub rolled out the bottom with the engine or did you pull the engine from the top first? Looks awesome, good luck with the new sub :thumbsup:

Rich

XcYZ 04-27-2010 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ragtp (Post 284593)
Scott - is that the height the car was at when the sub rolled out the bottom with the engine or did you pull the engine from the top first? Looks awesome, good luck with the new sub :thumbsup:

Rich

That's the height I needed to have the car to roll the complete subframe, motor, and trans out from underneath. I had some low profile casters for snowmobiles that worked perfect. With the casters, I only needed to have 30" from the ground to where the chin spoiler mounts to roll it out.

boonedog 04-27-2010 11:13 AM

was it just a stock subframe before?

jy211 04-27-2010 11:50 AM

wanna come over and help my garage look like yours? :D :thumbsup: :bow:

HRBS 04-27-2010 11:53 AM

That first pic is a screen savor now !
Scott... did you wear white gloves when working in there :lol:
Looks great..... cant wait to see the other "updates". :thumbsup:

camcojb 04-27-2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boonedog (Post 284595)
was it just a stock subframe before?

that is a 1 of 3 (I believe) that Wayne Due made to accept the DSE or other aftermarket parts. #2 is in my shop going in a friends Camaro. Neat idea and allows a big front wheel/tire combo and gives you a rack/coilovers/etc. but not as good as the DSE subframe.

Jody

Rybar 04-27-2010 12:33 PM

What would you build if you sold the car Scott?

Any reason for the frame change? Going to a wider front wheel/tire?

I think most of us on this site have a sickness (including myself) that we can't leave anything alone. :lol:

BTW, your garage looks killer :thumbsup:

fleetus macmullitz 04-27-2010 01:28 PM

It will be cool to read your feedback Scott, on the difference in ride and handling the DSE subframe adds to an already well executed completed build.

tones2SS 04-27-2010 04:01 PM

Very nice Scott. Making a really nice car even nicer and more nimble at that.
Nice pics, by the way!!:thumbsup: :cheers:

Reckley 04-27-2010 05:11 PM

Very cool scott. Good call going with the DSE frame.

Will you have any issues with the placement of the engine and how the headers and trans crossmember fit?

Mike

Vince@Meanstreets 04-27-2010 05:25 PM

good luck with the change Scott, I still remember talking with Wayne about that frame at the SEMA dinner. Wow, its been a while.

Are you going to sell it or find another car to put it under? You know you want to. LOL

If you weren't so far I'd offer to buy it.

What valve covers are you running?

Vince

lil427z 04-27-2010 05:27 PM

scott what # is your new ft clip.
rick k:thumbsup:

Vegas69 04-27-2010 05:50 PM

You won't regret that change, but why in the Summer!?

nvr2fst 04-27-2010 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 284663)
You won't regret that change, but why in the Summer!?

Todd maybe Scott still have snow so its a winter project LOL
Or maybe he needed to put a little dirt on the new floor.

Nice move Scott, hope you have it done for the Dells show. See you there.

Samhatco 04-27-2010 06:56 PM

Ummm.... nurse, forceps please. That the cleanest garage I've ever seen. This is going to be fun to watch. It already has been with the previous version(s).

Sam

Scorpner 04-27-2010 07:30 PM

That's the cleanest swap I think I have ever seen. I look forward to seeing the new subframe.

Vegas69 04-27-2010 07:48 PM

It's already in the 80's here, I guess it's not Summer yet. :_paranoid :lol:

XcYZ 04-27-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jy211 (Post 284600)
wanna come over and help my garage look like yours? :D :thumbsup: :bow:

Man, that was A LOT of work. I don't know that I want to do it again. :lol:



Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 284614)
It will be cool to read your feedback Scott, on the difference in ride and handling the DSE subframe adds to an already well executed completed build.

Thanks Skip. I'm looking forward to getting it on the road. I put 7,300 miles on the other subframe, so I have a good feel on how its mannerisms. I'll definitely post up some feedback.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Reckley (Post 284658)
Very cool scott. Good call going with the DSE frame.

Will you have any issues with the placement of the engine and how the headers and trans crossmember fit?

Mike

Headers are going to be the big question mark. I believe everything else will fit just fine.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 284659)
good luck with the change Scott, I still remember talking with Wayne about that frame at the SEMA dinner. Wow, its been a while.

Are you going to sell it or find another car to put it under? You know you want to. LOL

If you weren't so far I'd offer to buy it.

What valve covers are you running?

Vince

Thanks Vince. I think it was a good concept, it filled a void in the aftermarket subframe offerings. Not sure what I'm going to do with it just yet.

The valve covers are carbon fiber, from Carbon Fiber Valve Covers.com of all places. :D

XcYZ 04-27-2010 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lil427z (Post 284660)
scott what # is your new ft clip.
rick k:thumbsup:

I'll have to get back to you, it's at Autokraft getting painted.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 284663)
You won't regret that change, but why in the Summer!?

Well, they've been on back order for quite a while. I was hoping to have it ready for the Faceoff at RA, but it just didn't work out.


Quote:

Originally Posted by nvr2fst (Post 284671)
Todd maybe Scott still have snow so its a winter project LOL
Or maybe he needed to put a little dirt on the new floor.

Nice move Scott, hope you have it done for the Dells show. See you there.

Thanks Dave. What do you mean snow? I live tropical SOUTHERN Minnesota. :rofl:

See you in a few weeks. :cheers:

Stuart Adams 04-27-2010 09:16 PM

Going to be cool good buddy.

jy211 04-28-2010 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XcYZ (Post 284692)
Man, that was A LOT of work. I don't know that I want to do it again. :lol:

I'll ask again come mid-December...:rofl:

g356gear 04-28-2010 08:08 AM

What did you coat your floor with...looks great! Beautiful car btw.

XcYZ 04-28-2010 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Adams (Post 284704)
Going to be cool good buddy.

You know it! :cheers:



Quote:

Originally Posted by jy211 (Post 284742)
I'll ask again come mid-December...:rofl:

lol Well, that's true, not much to do around here that time of year.



Quote:

Originally Posted by g356gear (Post 284747)
What did you coat your floor with...looks great! Beautiful car btw.

It's 100% solids based epoxy from Wolverine Coatings. More info here:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=22182

g356gear 04-28-2010 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XcYZ (Post 284772)
It's 100% solids based epoxy from Wolverine Coatings. More info here:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=22182

Do you find it holding up? I used PPG Epoxy and I have hot lifting from the tires on my wifes sport utility. Cant seem to handle a jack without scratching either.

I saw your subframe and rotors sitting right on the floor and had to ask.

XcYZ 04-28-2010 01:34 PM

The rotors aren't on the ground, there's a set of low profile casters under the lower control arms and also under the legs of the subframe. You can see an extra set of caster sitting on top of the left frame leg in the 2nd pic. They're just hard to see under the control arms in the pics. :cheers:

It's holding up great, zero issues. I'm very happy with it.




Quote:

Originally Posted by lil427z (Post 284660)
scott what # is your new ft clip.
rick k:thumbsup:

#437

fleetus macmullitz 04-28-2010 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tones2SS (Post 284647)
Very nice Scott. Making a really nice car even nicer and more nimble at that.
Nice pics, by the way!!:thumbsup: :cheers:

Scott, you may not know this, but Tony is the New England DSE rep. (no official announcement yet though).

Part of his service is to autograph all sub-frames.

Expect a visit.


:D

tones2SS 04-28-2010 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 284796)
Scott, you may not know this, but Tony is the New England DSE rep. (no official announcement yet though).

Part of his service is to autograph all sub-frames.

Expect a visit.


:D

lolllllllll.......:rofl: :willy:
Will be following the build Scott. Car is really nice. Your garage looks nice and clean!:thumbsup:

lil427z 04-28-2010 05:50 PM

dse , they have sold a lot of ft clips. the one that i bought is #14.
rick k:thumbsup:

brans72 04-28-2010 07:18 PM

I bet $ you could sell your old sub frame on here, looks to be a nice piece.

XcYZ 04-28-2010 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lil427z (Post 284833)
dse , they have sold a lot of ft clips. the one that i bought is #14.
rick k:thumbsup:

That's a lot of frames. Hmmm, I wonder where #69 is. :D



Kurt worked well into the evening tonight getting the frame and associated parts painted. Kurt, you are the man! :bow:

Heading to Autokraft first thing Friday morning to pick it up.


http://lateral-g.org/temp/frame_painted.JPG

http://lateral-g.org/temp/frame_painted_2.JPG

http://lateral-g.org/temp/frame_painted_3.JPG

Stuart Adams 04-28-2010 08:26 PM

#69 :unibrow: :unibrow:

Looking great Scott.

syborg tt 04-28-2010 08:49 PM

yahoo !!!!

rwhite692 04-28-2010 08:54 PM

Looks sweet. I see you cleaned up the pool of anti-freeze, LOL~!

lil427z 04-28-2010 08:59 PM

dse ft clip is / looks first class.
rick k:lateral: :cheers: :woot:


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