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Flash68 09-11-2010 03:03 AM

1968 Camaro "Badmotorfinger" v2.2
 
Well I am glad to be back in the sea of Camaros. After being forced to sell my previous 68 earlier this year, I was able to get back into a position to get another one, albeit much more tame! But I like it that way this time.

I learned a lot from the past build about myself, shops, estimates, priorities, etc... and I think that's a great thing to have gone through now in hindsight. Have a few minor things I want to add or change to this car but otherwise will get to know it as is and go from there.

Well, enough talking.. here are the details and pics from today's maiden voyage. Bought the car in Modesto and drove it about 60 miles back to my new storage unit/shop in Dublin.

Body
4" fiberglass cowl hood
Viper Blue pearl paint
Full roll cage
Monte Carlo bar
Adjustable firewall and master cylinder braces
welded subframe connectors (DSE?)

Front Suspension
ATS Chicane kit with tall spindles
Bilstein coilovers
Global West A-arms
Del-a-lum bushings
Close ratio steering box
Sway bar
Wilwood Superlites 12" rotor/ 6 piston caliper

Rear Suspension
12 bolt Posi, 3.55 gears
DSE mini tubs
DSE drop leafs
Hotchkis hangers and bushings
Competition Engineering Slide-A-Links
Lowering blocks

Interior
Recaro seats
5 point harnesses
Covan carbon fiber gauge pod
Painless wiring harness

Drivetrain
377 sbc - 469 rwhp @ 6500rpm
11:1 Venolia pistons
Brodix Track 1 aluminum heads
Solid Roller cam
264/270 duration @ .050
.659/.634 lift @ .050
Rev Kit
Super Victor Intake
Demon 750
MSD ignition/coil/distributor
Muncie close ratio M-21
Centerforce clutch
Aluminum flywheel
Lakewood scattershield
15 gallon fuel cell
Holley fuel pump
Trunk battery relocation

Exhaust
Hooker Super Comp headers 1-3/4"
Dr Gas X-pipe
Flowmaster Super 40 mufflers
3" pipe with turn downs

Wheels/Tires
ZR-1 wheels satin black
17x8.5 front, 17x11 rear
235/40/17 front, 315/35/17 rear

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bulldog19 09-11-2010 04:11 AM

Nice pick up!! Sounds healthy. I like the black wheels against the blue. Glad to hear you're back in the game!!

Spiffav8 09-11-2010 04:17 AM

Good to see you back at it. Looks to be a ton of fun!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Mikael A 09-11-2010 04:45 AM

Nice I like it......so what are you going to change?

ProdigyCustoms 09-11-2010 05:37 AM

I have had a couple of 377s with that exact cam. With that aluminum flywheel, that cam, Revs like crazy I am sure. Lots of fun to drive.

Looks like a little this and that and your ready to rock!

fleetus macmullitz 09-11-2010 05:41 AM

Great looking streetfighter Dave. :thumbsup:

Vegas69 09-11-2010 08:16 AM

I'm diggin it. I'm with Frank, a few tweeks and it's yours. I'd start with taking off the front bumper and new wheels. :unibrow: If you want to bring it for SEMA, I'm sure we can stuff 4 Camaros in garages around here. :thumbsup:

tones2SS 09-11-2010 08:22 AM

That's awesome Dave. Congrats!:cheers:
Looks like a really nice car and sounds good too!:thumbsup:

GregWeld 09-11-2010 09:24 AM

Looks good!

Funny about the "learning" curve of a pro build.... and not bashing the pros here at all.... 'cause it's usually the customer driving the cost up. But the old "if you have to ask - you can't afford it" comes to mind when building HIGH LEVEL cars. These things tend to get out of control real easy.

This looks like a good car to just go out and have a blast with... and that, to me, is the best kind of car. :woot:

Ron in SoCal 09-11-2010 09:41 AM

^ yeah, what he said! And you don't have to change your screen name...:yes:

awr68 09-11-2010 09:55 AM

Very cool! It's amazing what you can pick up these days for $16k!! (yeah right!) I'm glad you were able to get it....I've always liked that car!! :thumbsup:


I'm thinking loose the front bumper...get some fuel and raise some hell!! :woot: Oh, and head to Oregon so I can have a ride!! :yes: :thumbsup:

Rybar 09-11-2010 10:03 AM

Nice pickup and congrats on getting back into the game :thumbsup:

GregWeld 09-11-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 305351)
I'm diggin it. I'm with Frank, a few tweeks and it's yours. I'd start with taking off the front bumper and new wheels. :unibrow: If you want to bring it for SEMA, I'm sure we can stuff 4 Camaros in garages around here. :thumbsup:

I'd leave the wheels and paint the stripes black.... for a more "coordinated" look and a bit "race car sinister"...

Opps..... here we go.... $$$$$$ :rofl: :rofl:

awr68 09-11-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 305381)
I'd leave the wheels and paint the stripes black.... for a more "coordinated" look and a bit "race car sinister"...

Opps..... here we go.... $$$$$$ :rofl: :rofl:

While we are at it....swap out the hood for a 2" cowl. Yep, this is how it all starts!! Aren't we great friends!! :lol:

Flash68 09-11-2010 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulldog19 (Post 305334)
Nice pick up!! Sounds healthy. I like the black wheels against the blue. Glad to hear you're back in the game!!

Thank you. It's good to be back. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 305335)
Good to see you back at it. Looks to be a ton of fun!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thank you Curtis.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael B Alfredsson (Post 305337)
Nice I like it......so what are you going to change?

Thanks Mikael. For starters, I planned on removing the front bumper and the Slide A Links, rolling the fenders, adding a bigger fan (dinky one in there now), and maybe changing the mufflers and raising the exhaust a little bit for added clearance. I just want to drive this one vs having it at various shops for 3 years. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms (Post 305340)
I have had a couple of 377s with that exact cam. With that aluminum flywheel, that cam, Revs like crazy I am sure. Lots of fun to drive.

Looks like a little this and that and your ready to rock!

Thanks Frank. Yeah it does rev quite nicely altho I haven't really gotten into that hard yet. The shop that dyno'd it shut it down at 6500 and the curve was still heading up, so with that cam I am guessing it peaks close to 6800-7000? Was that your experience?

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 305342)
Great looking streetfighter Dave. :thumbsup:

That you Big Stein! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 305351)
I'm diggin it. I'm with Frank, a few tweeks and it's yours. I'd start with taking off the front bumper and new wheels. :unibrow: If you want to bring it for SEMA, I'm sure we can stuff 4 Camaros in garages around here. :thumbsup:

Yep, def the bumper will come off. And while I wouldn't have put those wheels on there had I built this car myself, I don't hate them and they work well with the car I think for now. So they aren't as high a priority as a bunch of other stuff I wanna do.

4 Camaros for SEMA.... damn that is tempting... let's see how this thing is doing in a month - that would be a helluva trip for sure. And who doesn't love screaming down I-5 doing 70mph @ 3300 rpm. :D

Flash68 09-11-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tones2SS (Post 305353)
That's awesome Dave. Congrats!:cheers:
Looks like a really nice car and sounds good too!:thumbsup:

Thanks Tone!

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 305369)
Looks good!

Funny about the "learning" curve of a pro build.... and not bashing the pros here at all.... 'cause it's usually the customer driving the cost up. But the old "if you have to ask - you can't afford it" comes to mind when building HIGH LEVEL cars. These things tend to get out of control real easy.

This looks like a good car to just go out and have a blast with... and that, to me, is the best kind of car. :woot:

Thanks Greggers. Oh I agree - I started with a 35-40k budget on the last one and it took off from there, 95% due to me adding things and upgrading. It's a given. I don't blame the cost on the last project on anyone but me. Once I got the car out of the first nightmare shop and took it to Gearhead, I was taken very good care of. I have nothing but great things to say about that shop I want that to be known. I just didnt get to enjoy that car enough and my life changed in those 3 long years.

But you are right on - a nice car that isn't too fancy or perfect paint/body so I can go out and have fun with it. Just what I want and need right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flash911 (Post 305371)
^ yeah, what he said! And you don't have to change your screen name...:yes:

YES! I was in love with a 67 I saw for sale but just couldn't pull the trigger because of my forum screen names... Kidding of course. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 305374)
Very cool! It's amazing what you can pick up these days for $16k!! (yeah right!) I'm glad you were able to get it....I've always liked that car!! :thumbsup:

I'm thinking loose the front bumper...get some fuel and raise some hell!! :woot: Oh, and head to Oregon so I can have a ride!! :yes: :thumbsup:

Yes it is certainly a buyer's market these days. Not quite $16k tho. :lol:

I am coming to see my relatives again in Portland in the spring I believe - we'll see if this car will join me. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rybar (Post 305378)
Nice pickup and congrats on getting back into the game :thumbsup:

Thanks Ryan.

Flash68 09-11-2010 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 305381)
I'd leave the wheels and paint the stripes black.... for a more "coordinated" look and a bit "race car sinister"...

Opps..... here we go.... $$$$$$ :rofl: :rofl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 305387)
While we are at it....swap out the hood for a 2" cowl. Yep, this is how it all starts!! Aren't we great friends!! :lol:

You guys... I am trying to hold off on getting crazy here and you are not helping!! :willy:

torino420 09-11-2010 02:38 PM

Looks nice!

maybe replace the flowmasters *wink* *wink*

Can't wait to see it in person.

Van B 09-11-2010 03:53 PM

Is that the car that was on this or PT.com for sale a year or so ago? I like it...

camcojb 09-11-2010 04:20 PM

that's great Dave, glad to see things have improved. :thumbsup:

Jody

Vegas69 09-11-2010 04:44 PM

Maybe a OD conversion is first. You won't be doing 70 with King kiss ass Renner. Even though I think he still has a 3 speed? :lol:

Flash68 09-11-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by torino420 (Post 305409)
Looks nice!

maybe replace the flowmasters *wink* *wink*

Can't wait to see it in person.

Thank you, and I think you're right on the mufflers. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 305415)
'Jersey weighs in on your big decision...

http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/tv_sound..._your_mind.wav

That link didn't work for me.... I got some weird redirected site?:question:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Van B (Post 305425)
Is that the car that was on this or PT.com for sale a year or so ago? I like it...

Thanks, and yep it was. I was actually getting pretty close to buying a 67 in Texas when I found an old expired craigslist for this car about 2-3 months ago and went and contacted him thru the forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 305426)
that's great Dave, glad to see things have improved. :thumbsup:

Jody

Thanks Jody. Hope your biz is going the right direction as well.

I need to email you about that Mark VIII fan...

Flash68 09-11-2010 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 305428)
Maybe a OD conversion is first. You won't be doing 70 with King kiss ass Renner. Even though I think he still has a 3 speed? :lol:

Oh yeah. That is definitely the first major thing to address IMO. And like I was talking to you before - possibly put a hydraulic roller cam in place of the big nasty solid roller.... some improved low speed torque and drivability would be kinda nice. But.... maybe after awhile an LS/T56 swap could be in my future.... :_paranoid

Renner and his pro street, I mean, pro touring 69 with 24's? Does he use the line lock when he takes off for his auto-x runs? :D

Flash68 09-11-2010 05:16 PM

A couple more pics of caging, trunk/fuel cell, and suspension.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSC_0141.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...oween08016.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...009b45bd42.jpg

ProdigyCustoms 09-11-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 305395)
Thanks Frank. Yeah it does rev quite nicely altho I haven't really gotten into that hard yet. The shop that dyno'd it shut it down at 6500 and the curve was still heading up, so with that cam I am guessing it peaks close to 6800-7000? Was that your experience?

Easy. In my street racer I have a 271 / 279 @ .050 in my 6" rod 404CI and I always shift it at 6800 on and it goes out the back door at 125MPH at 6400 RPMs on motor passes and it goes out the back door at 7400 on nitrous passes and it never lays down.

You have a much better stroke / bore ratio for RPMs and I ASSUME it is a 6" rod motor which would make the rod ratio killer to. I would bet 6800 to 7000 is a good shift point for you.

Flash68 09-11-2010 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms (Post 305438)
Easy. In my street racer I have a 271 / 279 @ .050 in my 6" rod 404CI and I always shift it at 6800 on and it goes out the back door at 125MPH at 6400 RPMs on motor passes and it goes out the back door at 7400 on nitrous passes and it never lays down.

You have a much better stroke / bore ratio for RPMs and I ASSUME it is a 6" rod motor which would make the rod ratio killer to. I would bet 6800 to 7000 is a good shift point for you.

Yeah thats screamin. Im not sure yet what the rod length is.. I got 3 big envelopes of receipts and paperwork I still need to go through that came with the car.

But yesterday I just wanted to get the car home safely. :D I'll rev that sucker up here soon and see how it goes. It does have a high rev kit on it I believe. We'll know soon enough. :lol:

6D9 09-11-2010 11:25 PM

Congrats Dave!!! Im so stoked you got it. Where gonna have to get together soon for sure. Still gonna try and hit the strip with us on Oct 16th?? I hope so! Sucker should flat rip!

I totally agree about the cam......thats a big ol sucker for a nice street car. Something in the 240 ish at .050 would be alot more street friendly and still run super hard.

Flash68 09-12-2010 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6D9 (Post 305465)
Congrats Dave!!! Im so stoked you got it. Where gonna have to get together soon for sure. Still gonna try and hit the strip with us on Oct 16th?? I hope so! Sucker should flat rip!

I totally agree about the cam......thats a big ol sucker for a nice street car. Something in the 240 ish at .050 would be alot more street friendly and still run super hard.

Thank you Ron. Yes definitely.. been wanting to check out your car too. Will have to see on the drag day on the 16th... would like to come.

Yeah I think the cam is matched well for the motor but not so much for street driving and cruising. The cam is Vertigo was around 240/250 @ .050 and it was pretty easy to cruise I thought.

6D9 09-12-2010 08:05 PM

Cool keep me posted!

Tom.A 09-12-2010 11:41 PM

Congrats Flash :thumbsup: That did not take long at all. I remember seeing the car posted before and I liked it. Keep us posted

Flash68 09-13-2010 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom_a (Post 305596)
Congrats Flash :thumbsup: That did not take long at all. I remember seeing the car posted before and I liked it. Keep us posted

Thank you Tom! Yeah it seemed a while, but it wasn't bad. I guess it seemed like forever just cuz I never really got to enjoy the first one and put a lot of miles on it.

This one will get the miles. :cheers:

Matt@BOS 09-13-2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 305430)
Renner and his pro street, I mean, pro touring 69 with 24's? Does he use the line lock when he takes off for his auto-x runs? :D

No, I think he just took off the right rear drum brake which gives him the same effect.

BTW, I really like the car and its "all business" look. I don't know how many owners it has had but I remember driving behind it for a while on my way back from the Pomona swap meet several years ago. It definitely has a presence on the road.

Matt

Flash68 09-13-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69MSA (Post 305652)
No, I think he just took off the right rear drum brake which gives him the same effect.

BTW, I really like the car and its "all business" look. I don't know how many owners it has had but I remember driving behind it for a while on my way back from the Pomona swap meet several years ago. It definitely has a presence on the road.

Matt

Ahhh good ole Renner. :captain:

Thanks Matt. I know of 3 owners (I got one big ass folder/binder of receipts and paperwork for each one, which is nice).

So what did this thing look like when you saw it down there? I thought it's been a local Norcal for quite awhile but maybe not...

skatinjay27 09-13-2010 09:14 PM

congrats dave glad to see ya got a car you can enjoy!!!!
looks sweet but I think it needs some 69 tail lights!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:
well at least a streetfighter spoiler .:thumbsup:

Flash68 09-13-2010 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skatinjay27 (Post 305724)
congrats dave glad to see ya got a car you can enjoy!!!!
looks sweet but I think it needs some 69 tail lights!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:
well at least a streetfighter spoiler .:thumbsup:

Thanks AJ! yeah yeah it could probably use a lot of things eh. :willy: :lol:

I do have the streetfighter spoiler on my wish list... good call... but I really am determined to keep this thing as cheap as possible. Only looking for used parts if I can find them for now. I learned a lot from that damn Vertigo car. :D

awr68 09-13-2010 09:40 PM

The only thing it needs is me behind the wheel! :unibrow:

6D9 09-13-2010 10:04 PM

How about a idle video.....:unibrow:

waynieZ 09-13-2010 10:23 PM

The car looks great. Good luck with it.

Flash68 09-13-2010 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 305729)
The only thing it needs is me behind the wheel! :unibrow:

Easy there killer... you have your own sweet money ride coming home soon :unibrow: :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6D9 (Post 305734)
How about a idle video.....:unibrow:

That's a good call. I'll get on it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 305737)
The car looks great. Good luck with it.

Thankya Wayne.

Matt@BOS 09-14-2010 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 305707)

So what did this thing look like when you saw it down there? I thought it's been a local Norcal for quite awhile but maybe not...

Can't remember the details too much, as it was a few years ago, but it looked about the same I think. The wheels might not have been blacked out back then. For some reason I think it used to have a set or red hash mark stripes over the side of the fender too, but I could be wrong. Either way, it looked pretty nasty driving down the road.

I'm glad it went to a good home.

Matt


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