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j-rho 09-23-2010 01:29 AM

'67 Camaro SCCA build
 
Hi everyone,
I haven't posted much but have been doing a lot of reading on this site over the past year or more. Learned a lot of great things from the experiences of the generous members here.

Bought my '67 Camaro yesterday and am finally about to get started. Since I'm on a lot of different message boards, I've decided to detail the build on my own site, this way I only have to update a single message board instead of several.

Here's the link:
http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build

If you have any questions about it, feel free to email [email protected]

Thanks again to everyone for all you've shared!

bonecrrusher 09-23-2010 05:57 AM

Nice... I'm not sure I'd drive a car w/out a gas gauge though... LOL!

LS1NOVA 09-23-2010 07:12 AM

Nice story so far. It will be neat to see a Camaro built for dedicated autox.

Ron in SoCal 09-23-2010 09:05 AM

Congrats on the car Jason. Glad you found a suitable candidate...!

mdprovee 09-23-2010 09:35 AM

Looks like fun...I just started autocross, and would love to do what you are doing.

j-rho 12-03-2010 12:33 PM

Still a long long way from completion, but I did pick up the motor last weekend and got a couple vids of it on the dyno. Started an analysis of the front suspension also, a few posts down.

http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/

j-rho 05-11-2011 12:02 PM

Fabrication work complete, car headed in for body and paint now.
http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/

JKnight 05-11-2011 01:00 PM

Great Job Jason. I really like the alternative approach you're taking to solving some of the 1st Gen's inherent shortcomings, particularly the sway bars! Well done sir.

Bryce 05-11-2011 01:44 PM

Nice stuff! As for teh weight of a chassis mounted watts link. I built mine out of aluminum and weighs 8.4 pounds for the cradle and pivot and links.

j-rho 09-01-2011 11:23 PM

Home from paint! Goal is to have it on the road by next February.
http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build

70rs 09-02-2011 12:25 AM

Nice job on this! I really like the dedicated site and level of detail you are doing with the information. Looking forward to more updates.

Ron in SoCal 09-02-2011 08:53 AM

Sunoco Blue...love the color Jason! :thumbsup: The grey contrast is very cool also. Impressive for four months...

You know what they say, 'the last 25% takes 75% in time and chasing parts.' I hope it's less for you!

bingham72 09-02-2011 09:12 AM

Nice
 
Great read!

Flash68 02-07-2012 01:09 AM

Jason, any updates?

I read your blog and am curious what front spring rates you are planning on starting with? In the 4 digits it appears... ? :unibrow:

coolwelder62 02-07-2012 06:47 AM

Very nice build.Seem's to alot of folk's building sunoco camaro's these day's.I like it.:thumbsup:

j-rho 02-11-2012 10:43 AM

Nothing to update beyond what's on the blog unfortunately.

As for spring rates, yes, something in the 4-digit range. With the Camaro's motion ratio, they need to be that high to get to even a modest wheel rate and ride frequency.

SLO_Z28 02-11-2012 11:34 AM

Nice build!

Cant wait to see it done! There has to something other than a WRX in STX :thumbsup:

jr4452 02-11-2012 12:36 PM

Nice work, love the grey undercarriage, all business!

Ron in SoCal 02-11-2012 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rho (Post 394991)
Nothing to update beyond what's on the blog unfortunately.

Hey Jason - welcome back! You mentioned another ride to campaign on your blog. What is it?

j-rho 11-03-2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 395002)
Hey Jason - welcome back! You mentioned another ride to campaign on your blog. What is it?

Hi Ron,
Drove a Gen4 Viper this year while progressing with the Camaro.

Have wheels now, but still a ways to go. Hoping for ignition by new years.

http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/w...n-1024x551.jpg

http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/?p=1539

j-rho 01-03-2013 12:05 AM

It runs now! Sounds pretty nice at idle too. :)
http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/?p=1684

intocarss 01-03-2013 01:02 AM

Can't believe I've never highjacked, I mean seen this thread. Awesome car & sounds good too :thumbsup:

Are you running the 30/30 cam?

j-rho 01-03-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 455162)
Can't believe I've never highjacked, I mean seen this thread. Awesome car & sounds good too :thumbsup:

Are you running the 30/30 cam?

Yep, stock cam.

Vegas69 01-03-2013 10:37 PM


Flash68 01-03-2013 11:09 PM

:thumbsup:

j-rho 02-18-2013 11:40 PM

Watts link is in, suspension (minus shocks) buttoned up enough to let it move under its own power.

The last time the car moved under its own power was September 22, 2010 ("The long strange trip") and on February 17, 2013, it moved itself back out - only took me about 2.5 years!
http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/w...1-1024x657.jpg

In addition to a few more pics have some boring "car rolling down the street" videos linked from http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build

WSSix 02-19-2013 12:00 AM

Congrats! I like the color combination.

CrossRamRich 02-19-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rho (Post 444294)
Hi Ron,
Drove a Gen4 Viper this year while progressing with the Camaro.

Have wheels now, but still a ways to go. Hoping for ignition by new years.

http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/w...n-1024x551.jpg

http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/?p=1539

Awesome! Gorgeous car!:thumbsup:

intocarss 02-19-2013 02:19 PM

That looks great

Flash68 02-19-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rho (Post 465731)
Watts link is in, suspension (minus shocks) buttoned up enough to let it move under its own power.

The last time the car moved under its own power was September 22, 2010 ("The long strange trip") and on February 17, 2013, it moved itself back out - only took me about 2.5 years!
http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/w...1-1024x657.jpg

In addition to a few more pics have some boring "car rolling down the street" videos linked from http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build

Killer.... Jongbloed wheels, correct?

j-rho 02-19-2013 10:05 PM

Yep, Jongbloed, the 214 Aero style.

smhigh 02-20-2013 09:36 AM

Nice Looking car
 
Your Camaro looks GREAT!!!

Nessumsar 02-20-2013 11:10 AM

Jason, I really appreciate all of the information you have gathered and distributed during this build. I am really looking forward to your thoughts on the spring rates you have chosen once you get some seat time.

j-rho 04-01-2013 01:35 AM

Here's a writeup of its first race weekend:
http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/?p=1845
http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/w...0-1024x682.jpg
Also have an in-car video for download, it is somewhat large though (~180MB):
http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/w...urDay2Run2.mp4

A long way from where it needs to be handling-wise, but now the fun can really begin!

j-rho 04-09-2013 01:31 AM

El Toro ProSolo writeup: http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/?p=1866
Video 1: http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/w.../left1_720.mp4
Video 2: http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/w.../left2_720.mp4

http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/w...9-1024x768.jpg

sik68 04-09-2013 01:42 PM

Thanks for the update Jason! Love following your build and website.

If I can throw my thinking cap on with you.

On the El Toro runs, it looks like you could be locking up the rear tires under braking? To me, it looks like that is really what's unsettling the car on turn in and keeping you so busy. In contrast, mid-corner to corner out, the car looks pretty manageable.

You're obviously a good driver, the car just looks really skittish right now but I'm sure you'll get it sorted soon enough.

:thumbsup:

j-rho 04-09-2013 02:32 PM

Hi Steven,
I think you're absolutely right, that the rear brakes are locking up. Was up late on Wilwood's site last night looking for different calipers that would shift braking bias forward. Think I have a solution in mind.

In a different setting I might try a proportioning valve, but it's not legal in the class.

chetly 04-09-2013 03:31 PM

Wouldn't it be cheaper to just get s different pad compound for the front or rear to help adjust brake bias?

I'd love to do something like this with a Mustang but I don't feel the k code 289 would have enough power to get the job done.

j-rho 04-09-2013 04:48 PM

Cheaper, yes, but I don't feel that is as good a solution. Different pad compounds behave differently as temperatures rise and fall, which would also shift the bias around somewhat unpredictably. With a little less rear piston area, the bias should be consistently shifted forward.

An old ponycar's last problem is power - I'm sure with headers, exhaust, and a solidly (but legally) rebuilt motor, you'd have more than enough power. Most cars in the class are below 200whp - but they are also small, light, with great handling and braking. Power is not that important in autocross.

pjs65 04-09-2013 05:11 PM

I still run with a SBC307 and definitely the last thing i worry about is the power , getting around corners and stopping are a bigger concern . You just have to go out and give it a try and learn from the experience and for a while get used to being slower than 1600 hatchbacks . Pete


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