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ccracin 09-25-2010 04:13 PM

What's Up with Barrett Jackson Announcers
 
I have been watching a bit of the Barrett Jackson from Las Vegas on Speed. Every time a Pro-Touring car goes across the block the announcers almost seem shocked when they fetch more money than a restored car. They also have no clue what is going on with this genre. One of them called a blue 67 Camaro definitely Pro Street. This is not a passing fad. These guys should do their homework and get a clue. Am I the only one thinking this? Ok, Rant over.

tones2SS 09-25-2010 04:56 PM

HA HA!! I picked up on that too. It's funny because living out here in MA, there are very few who know what "pro-touring" actually is as well.:_paranoid

MarkM66 09-25-2010 05:05 PM

The pro touring cars are way down. :thmbsdwn:

Not sure if there's to many custom/protouring cars here, economy or what. There are about 120 more cars this year then last, so maybe there aren't enough bidders to go around.

coolwelder62 09-25-2010 06:25 PM

Mark your car is awesome should have brought twice want it did.Scott:thumbsup:

camcojb 09-25-2010 06:32 PM

Mecum seems to do better than Barrett Jackson lately.

Jody

camcojb 09-25-2010 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 307482)
I just gave my car away. They didn't show it on TV. 665.1 .

The pro touring cars are way down. :thmbsdwn:

Not sure if there's to many custom/protouring cars here, economy or what. There are about 120 more cars this year then last, so maybe there aren't enough bidders to go around.

sorry to hear that Mark, I love what you did with your car.......... :cheers:

Jody

protour73 09-25-2010 06:53 PM

.....and since when is a 1st gen Camaro Coupe, a "koo-pay", A Jaguar XK120 Drophead Coupe, YES ....... a Camaro? ummmmm, NO :rolleyes:

awr68 09-25-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 307482)
I just gave my car away. They didn't show it on TV. 665.1 .

Mark you build very nice cars! I'm suprised they didn't show it on TV....great stance and use of finishes! So with a little money in hand...what's next? It's been fun watching you go from the camaro to the nova and now the chevelle!

CNDbowtie 09-25-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 307482)
I just gave my car away. They didn't show it on TV. 665.1 .

The pro touring cars are way down. :thmbsdwn:

Not sure if there's to many custom/protouring cars here, economy or what. There are about 120 more cars this year then last, so maybe there aren't enough bidders to go around.

i just listened to Jackson being interviewed...he said both the auction and the consigner sit down and both give ballpark numbers of what both think it will sell for...then the seller has to agree that B-Js estimated hammer price would be acceptable....then when it comes across the block the auctioneer sees both prices of seller and estimated B-J prices on his computer..is that true? and if it is ...how much off where they from what Jackson thought it would hammer for...and not how much off what you thought it would go for?

Van B 09-25-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 307494)
Mecum seems to do better than Barrett Jackson lately.

Jody

At least with Mecum I can no sale it if I am not happy with the sale price without paying both buy and sell fees.

BonzoHansen 09-26-2010 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 307482)
I just gave my car away. They didn't show it on TV. 665.1 .

The pro touring cars are way down. :thmbsdwn:

Not sure if there's to many custom/protouring cars here, economy or what. There are about 120 more cars this year then last, so maybe there aren't enough bidders to go around.

Sucks Mark. I DVR'd it and fast forwarded it through like 5 hours of coverage just to see it behind a shelby for 5 seconds. I was totally let down for you.

GregWeld 09-26-2010 08:44 AM

Welcome BACK to the days where you were lucky if you got 50% of what you spent building a car when it came time to sell.

You take out all the "buyers" that hawked their house equity to buy a shiny new toy... since those days are over... and there's just not that many people left to bid these prices up.

Great to be a buyer - not so great to be a seller (aka CELLAR).

Your car was killer Mark... it's not you -- it's the market.

kochevy67 09-26-2010 09:00 AM

I agree with the Mecum auction, at least you get to set the reserve and you can remove it if it bids high enough on the block. In my opinion BJ has ruined the auction business with there look at me attitude.

cmraman 09-26-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ccracin (Post 307468)
I have been watching a bit of the Barrett Jackson from Las Vegas on Speed. Every time a Pro-Touring car goes across the block the announcers almost seem shocked when they fetch more money than a restored car. They also have no clue what is going on with this genre. One of them called a blue 67 Camaro definitely Pro Street. This is not a passing fad. These guys should do their homework and get a clue. Am I the only one thinking this? Ok, Rant over.

not to mention they don't know the difference between a resto-mod and Pro touring car. They also have been making many mistakes on just cars in general. They covered a 65 Olds 442 and everything they described about the car was completely wrong.

James OLC 09-26-2010 11:54 AM

I can't stand the commentating... sadly these guys seem to know nothing about American cars in general and after five years of muscle cars dominating they show they haven't made an effort to learn? And some of the things that they focus on???

You're looking at a Shelby GT500 Convertible and the remarkable thing you pick out is that they use Lucas fog lights?

Ketzer 09-26-2010 11:55 AM

I watch it with the volume turned down. I wish you could see the entire footage, get a look at cars that a regular Joe might dream for... or at least get a laugh at some of the stuff that goes through.


Jeff-

MarkM66 09-26-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CNDbowtie (Post 307510)
i just listened to Jackson being interviewed...he said both the auction and the consigner sit down and both give ballpark numbers of what both think it will sell for...then the seller has to agree that B-Js estimated hammer price would be acceptable....then when it comes across the block the auctioneer sees both prices of seller and estimated B-J prices on his computer..is that true? and if it is ...how much off where they from what Jackson thought it would hammer for...and not how much off what you thought it would go for?

They asked what I thought it would go for. But all that is totally irrelevant . It's what two people are willing to pay.

MarkM66 09-26-2010 12:19 PM

Thanks all. I'm not sure what I'll do next, probably a 1st gen Camaro.

CNDbowtie 09-26-2010 08:57 PM

anyone else surprised the 1.7 million dollar Bugatti Veyron only hammered for 700K? million dollar depreciation in 2 years!...now that sucks ass! then the big player who win the bid backs out and said it was a mistake he wasnt the high bidder...and Jackson himself bought it for the hammer price!

GregWeld 09-26-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CNDbowtie (Post 307678)
anyone else surprised the 1.7 million dollar Bugatti Veyron only hammered for 700K? million dollar depreciation in 2 years!...now that sucks ass! then the big player who win the bid backs out and said it was a mistake he wasnt the high bidder...and Jackson himself bought it for the hammer price!


Did you ever see the video of the Veyron going for a little swim? It's SUSPECTED that this is the same one....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NJmB1F2mdE

Ron in SoCal 09-26-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 307680)
Did you ever see the video of the Veyron going for a little swim? It's SUSPECTED that this is the same one....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NJmB1F2mdE

Funny you mention that Greg. During the auction of the car I noticed close ups of the grill and it looked like there were water spots on on the alum around the grill. I was thinking, that's no way to get mad money out of a Bugatti auction..!

ProdigyCustoms 09-27-2010 05:09 AM

There would have to be one hell of a disclaimer if that was the one that went swimming.

I have bought as drivers a few swimmers in my rebuuilding days. Fresh water, no worries, salt water, LOTS a worries.

ironworks 09-27-2010 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 307680)
Did you ever see the video of the Veyron going for a little swim? It's SUSPECTED that this is the same one....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NJmB1F2mdE

Kenny Davis and I said the same thing Saturday afternoon during the auction. I also thought it was strange to have almost 12,000 miles on it. If a service is 100 grand and tires are 25,000 Who would really drive that car that much. 12,000 miles seemed like a lot of mileage for a 1.7 million dollar car. JMHO

redfire69 09-27-2010 06:11 AM

So do sellers have a way of buyer their car back if they don't like the price? It seems like a few cars have been though BJ several times in one year....

MarkM66 09-27-2010 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by redfire69 (Post 307698)
So do sellers have a way of buyer their car back if they don't like the price? It seems like a few cars have been though BJ several times in one year....

You'd pay 18% over hammer price, trans there and back, trip, etc. You better really want that car back.

ironworks 09-27-2010 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by redfire69 (Post 307698)
So do sellers have a way of buyer their car back if they don't like the price? It seems like a few cars have been though BJ several times in one year....

I think they go back across many times because BJ winds up owning the car due to various issues. Like Frank's Firebird

MarkM66 09-27-2010 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redfire69 (Post 307698)
So do sellers have a way of buyer their car back if they don't like the price? It seems like a few cars have been though BJ several times in one year....

I noticed those re auctioned cars too. There was blue '67 Camaro that went after me. I spoke with the owner, he bought it last year in a "drunken stooper", got tired of it, and sold it this year. Kind of a difference in price.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=303&pop=1

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=383&pop=1

Not sure what the story was with these two re sells, but there also was a price difference.

Nice pro touring '69 Camaro.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=323&pop=1

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=383&pop=1

Cobra:

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=303&pop=1

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=383&pop=1

GregWeld 09-27-2010 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms (Post 307695)
There would have to be one hell of a disclaimer if that was the one that went swimming.

I have bought as drivers a few swimmers in my rebuuilding days. Fresh water, no worries, salt water, LOTS a worries.


The Bugatti crashed into a TEXAS LAKE.... so I would ASSume it's fresh water?

Even if the insurance company totaled the car - they sell the carcass to somebody... and a car like that is not going to just disappear.

There has to be good reason the bids were so low... my guess is the market "knew" something.

redfire69 09-27-2010 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 307712)
I noticed those re auctioned cars too. There was blue '67 Camaro that went after me. I spoke with the owner, he bought it last year in a "drunken stooper", got tired of it, and sold it this year. Kind of a difference in price.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=303&pop=1

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=383&pop=1

Not sure what the story was with these two re sells, but there also was a price difference.

Nice pro touring '69 Camaro.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=323&pop=1

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=383&pop=1

Cobra:

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=303&pop=1

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...&aid=383&pop=1

Yeah, the red 69 is the one I noticed this weekend. Also J2speed's camaro bob has been on the block several times over the last year or so...

GregWeld 09-27-2010 07:26 AM

Mark --

My big block 400hp 67 vette went thru BJ Scottsdale AFTER a body off restoration - 5 years after I sold it - for the same price (private sale) - and got the same exact dollars.... now subtract the body off resto - the fees - transportation - the cost of money.... :rofl:

There's a very long and sordid story that goes with this - but this ain't the "I sold my vette" thread.

GregWeld 09-27-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 307697)
Kenny Davis and I said the same thing Saturday afternoon during the auction. I also thought it was strange to have almost 12,000 miles on it. If a service is 100 grand and tires are 25,000 Who would really drive that car that much. 12,000 miles seemed like a lot of mileage for a 1.7 million dollar car. JMHO


Okay -- I'm not going to say this to be mean.... please don't take it that way.

99% of the people that are buying million dollar toys -- the cost of operation isn't really anything they think about or care about. It's all relative.

They just ain't the same as the rest of us.

ironworks 09-27-2010 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 307716)
Okay -- I'm not going to say this to be mean.... please don't take it that way.

99% of the people that are buying million dollar toys -- the cost of operation isn't really anything they think about or care about. It's all relative.

They just ain't the same as the rest of us.

Oh I fully agree, But 12,000 miles just seemed like an awful lot. I think it is totally cool to see on driven that much, I know I would and there would dog hair and fast food trash on the floor if it was mine. But How many of those cars really get driven like that? The other Mercedes had what 900 miles?

GHOSTDANCER 09-27-2010 08:42 AM

Who ever invented the DVR deserves a cold one on me :cheers: It only takes about an hour and a half to fast forward through all the crap. Was pissed I did'nt get to see more of your Chevelle. Definitely perfer to watch Meccum.

Josh69 09-27-2010 09:05 AM

For whatever reason I usually don't get to spend much time watching the auctions. I had it on for a bit on Saturday, and I was astonished at how utterly clueless the announcers were. It was like the B squad for the local college football crew trying to cover Rugby. Unbelievable. For as big of a deal as they make it, they should have experts covering the show, period. Maybe they want to dumb it down for the pedestrians, but seriously, that's not who the show draws. IMHO.

MarkM66 09-27-2010 10:55 AM

I haven't watch the auction yet, but did anyone catch this? Was it televised?

http://automotive.speedtv.com/articl...yer-backs-out/

James OLC 09-27-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 307742)
I haven't watch the auction yet, but did anyone catch this? Was it televised?

http://automotive.speedtv.com/articl...yer-backs-out/

Yep

It was the feature car of the auction and the topic of discussion for the last 2 pages.

Pretty anti-climactic on TV

MarkM66 09-27-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by James OLC (Post 307746)
Yep

It was the feature car of the auction and the topic of discussion for the last 2 pages.

Pretty anti-climactic on TV

Gotcha, I'll have to watch it. I couldn't find a video of the buyer backing out part.

MaxHarvard 09-27-2010 11:41 AM

I've been fairly disillusioned about the whole BJ experience as of late.

I just get a really shady feeling about the whole operation. The co-owner guy, can't remember his name, the one who always wears sunglasses indoors, give me a bad feeling every time I see him. The auctions themselves I think have ruined a pretty good hobby.

The horror stories of fast gavel selling, the "promised air time" or "guaranteed 2-3 min. on the block time" fiasco, the free booze to get people "loosened up" to buy... everything about it just feels off.

I can't bring myself to watch the show anymore.

~Eric

G-Body 09-27-2010 12:37 PM

Even worse than the idiots calling the show is the idiots that think they will make money selling there cars there.,

People have countlessly lost there asssses there on there cars and people seem to just follow the hype and want to be apart of the experience more power to you i didnt build my car to give it away and thats what seems to be happening at these shows sad is what it is.

And your right they do call them alll wrong and i if i have to here resto rod once more or coupe pe' aswell im going to bitchhhh slap someone.

buickfunnycar.com 09-27-2010 12:39 PM

I almost spit red wine out my nose when Craig Jackson and Steve Davis starting talking about how ethical they were how "above board" they conducted their business...I was beside myself.:rofl:


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