2012 Camaro ZL1 with 550 horsepower, OH YEAH
 

Just to let you guys know, If I bought this car I would go to jail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7eD0_dlXYM&hd=1

Can you imagine cruising this car with some Motley crew or Early Metallica. OH YEAH

Still got the same ugly body. Disgrace to the ZL1 heritage. :unibrow:

The new Hot Wheels Camaro reminds me of the styling mis-cues of the Corvette or the progression of the new gen Mustangs. I'm hoping when they restyle it we'll see similar positive changes.

Eliminate curvature in nose, reduce the rocker to window sill dimension, tighten the ass-end up a little and it has potential.

I like the motor though, and I'm sure the insurance companies will appreciate the opportunity to increase rates. :D

As far as the music goes, I'd have to be listening to Molly Hatchet Flirtin with disaster. :cheers:

And thats why 13 seconds into the video there is a very small disclaimer that reads: "Professional driver on closed course. Do not attempt."

Thats there for people like us. :unibrow:

Don't hold back Todd. :lol:

The original ZL1's weren't necessarily striking with the lovely hubcaps and all, but I'd have to agree. The new body style leaves a lot to be desired. The new Corvette ZL1 is badass in my opinion, but the Camaro, well, not so much. If they do end up cleaning up the lines on the new Camaro and really allowing it live up to its potential, I wonder how much the current fugly generation would (not) be worth?

Yah, if I wanted a proper representation of a ZL1 Camaro, I'd go vintage and have me a 69 with a ZL1 block in it like Todd's. :thumbsup:

The ad says "introducing the most powerful Camaro ever".

I don't think so!

Even my '69 will have a few more ponies than that new ZL1. And my car is tame relative to the cars around here. :lol:

Here's another article and photo about it:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/09/auto..._zr1/index.htm

The stripe, new lower fascia, and side skirts do improve the look a bit. Fix the tail lights, grill, and remove the B pillar and they'll be getting somewhere.

Impressive power but not convinced it deserves the ZL1 name.

-Chevy Styling dept...."we were too lazy to doing anything cool so we'll just go with what we did for Transformers 2 years ago...AND we're keeping the Fisher Price grill that doesn't match the lower grill."

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The damn thing needs to lose serious amount of weight.

Close to 4,100lbs?! Are you kidding me?

Sure, 550 hp sounds nice, but jeez... It probably needs that much just to get to speed :mad:

Nice car, but it should have a LS7/9 427! And that front facia got worse...

Agreed on the horsepower numbers. Considering the 2011 Mustang GT500 is putting out 550HP at 3820lbs, and Ford is offering the 2011 SuperSnake with nearly 800HP, GM should've had more to offer on a legendary Camaro like this instead of just swapping an engine out of a Cadillac. I'm not sure I like the idea of a legendary Camaro getting it's butt handed to it by a fairly common(nowadays) GT500. That just doesn't seem legendary to me, although Ford fans gotta love it.

Maybe, just like the original ZL1, they're grossly understating the true horsepower and/or it would very easy to do a few mods to drastically bump up the HP numbers. If that's the case then they'd be getting close to producing something proper.

I'm sure we'll see #1 being auctioned at Barrett Jackson sometime soon. I wonder how many they will actually produce? It won't be 69 that's for sure.

X2 with ya Todd.
Didnt they sell a GM crate version at one time, not sure? Is your an original ZL1 block

I have to agree. I'm really trying to like the styling of these cars, but still can't do it.:P I do like the power plant though.:thumbsup:

Nope, mine is the modern IMPROVED version. It is in a 69 Camaro though. :unibrow:

I had really imagined the "revived" Camaro ZL1 with an LS9 and a similar treatment to what the Corvette ZR1 got. Essentially adapt the ZR1 goods to a Camaro SS; carbon fiber roof skin, a window in the hood, similar or matching multi-spoke wheels, the high end brakes, etc. And what is going on with the nose, particularly the stacked foglamps? I am pretty disappointed. A cool car, yes. But carrying the ZL1 badge? Meh... fortunately John Hennessey has the right idea.

http://www.motorward.com/wp-content/...1/camaross.jpg

Edit: That rendering doesn't match the real car. Oh well...

You nailed it Ben

YES! definitely with some Crüe blasting

Yeah I have to say I'm not a fan of the overly squared off exterior styling of the new Camaro. Currently the SS is being outperformed by the new 2011 5.0 GT. The current 2011 GT500 coupe weighs in at 3820 lbs. which gives it almost a 300 lb. weight advantage over the ZL1. The Shelby GT500 puts down 550 hp and 510 lb. feet of torque. It will be an interesting battle between the two.

Just buy a z06, I am sure the camaro will be as much as the zo6

x3 with Todd. As much as I love Camaros, the Gen 5 is butt ugly.
Chuck

Bingo, and much more car. :thumbsup:

You can buy a quality Z06 in the $40k range all day now.

Some people prefer to be stereotyped as having a mullet instead of being bald(ing) , Okay...

Matt

:thumbsup: :lol:

wow sounds like alot of people just wish they started reproducing 69 camaros. i know this next statement will probably cost me my latg membership but..... 69 camaros to me arent the best looking to begin with! and yes i do agree that the new ones arent either!

both the new camaro and challenger have the same main problem, the are way too tall in between the rockers to the windows. they look like the fat chicks the are in jeans 3 sizes smaller than they should ever be seen in.

Ford still has the best looking retro styled new muscle! and that new 5.0!.... wow!:woot:

also if i could take one of the new camaro or challenger and section them about 2 inches they would intantly be 100 times better:thumbsup:

Rodger, slap your boy for the whole group.:D

haha yeah yeah. did i forget to metion that i am and always will be a ford guy. but i must say that with me its all about proportion and execution. any idea could be a good one but execution is what makes or breaks it.

sorry to all you 69 lovers. but building daves 69 car has really opened my eyes to all that i dont like about 69s. and we have fixed many of them on his!

I was kinda guessing that:(

Rodger, As Todd said, give him a slap:lol:

Well there is an ass for every seat and a girl for every guy, Different strokes for different folks.

I confident that if Brycen built his dream 69 mustang he would want to cut that up just as much as we have a 69 Camaro. I mean heck, brycen took a mustang bumper and build a new center on the pullmax and hung it on that crazy 69 Camaro we are building and it looks good doing it.

One of the things I always "counsel" friends about when we go to a "car show" together is that every one of these cars represents what the OWNER wants.... and that it doesn't matter what "they" (my friend) think. I tell them -- "when it's your car - you can do whatever you want to it"... until then, just shut the " " up...

And YES I really do have that conversation every time.


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Everybody's wallet is different - tastes - memories - desires... I say -- build or buy whatever turns your crank... and as long as you're a car guy and care about the hobby. We're all good.

Now.... about those plug wires wrapped around the shock tower there... You mind shortening them up a bit? Oh and that nasty group of wires ganged onto the battery terminal there... Yeah that's gotta go... and where the hell did you get those Radir wheels? :woot:

I assuming everybody but YOU. I heard some rather strong opinions on a few un named cars during SEMA. :D

Thus the lines at the bottom of my post about the plug wires etc.....

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There are some just nasty (as in BAD - not Bad azz) cars out there... :D

[QUOTE=ironworks;332927]Well there is an ass for every seat and a girl for every guy, Different strokes for different folks. [QUOTE]

I totally agree, I was just pokin fun.:cheers:
It'd be damn boring if we all liked the same cars , or football teams or.... Most of the fun comes from having a spirited discussion about whats "BEST".

I had a friend bring his Mustang into my toy shop recently to use the hoist to put some track pads in. He told me he was surprised that I let a Ford into my shop. I told him Fords were welcome to come in "they just couldn't stay overnite":lol:

BTW I think 69 Mustangs are gorgeous cars. But I'll deny ever saying it!! ooops it's in print:_paranoid

At least it had plug wires... that's better than some of the 1:1 scale models on display... :)

Brycen, I completely agree. The Mustang wins the styling, yet I heard the Camaro out sold the Mustang for the first time in 20 some years? The customers wallets over-rule free opinions every time. ;)

Giving credit where credit is due - yes the Camaro did outsell the Mustang...not by very much though. Here's the big "but"...BUT don't forget that this restyled retro Mustang had already been around for 5 years before the Camaro was raised back to life from extinction. And the 2010/2011 Mustang styling is just a refresh on the 05-06 bodystyle. Not really new news? Based off of what i read here about how much die hard Camaro fans aren't too fond of the new Camaro styling. Plus with the beating the new 5.0 Mustang is putting down on the portly Camaro SS it won't be long before the Mustang sales scales tip the other direction. 50th anniversary for the Mustang is looming on the horizon along with an all new Mustang for 2014 with IRS, no more retro styling and it will be sold as global car. Gonna be really ineteresting to see how the next couple years pan out in the pony car wars! I did I leave the Chally out? Probably because it won't be around. The Challenger is cool, yeah yeah Hemi, nice styling but not competitive in bang for buck. Slowest, and heaviest....