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jimbo 03-11-2011 08:38 AM

Master cylinder in trunk??
 
A 57 Chevy on ebay. How exactly does this work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...fCarsQ5fTrucks



http://app4.websitetonight.com/proje...7CHEVY_081.JPG

Rhino 03-11-2011 08:45 AM

I would assume a hydraulic coupling of master/slave cylinders, similar to a hydraulic clutch linkage. Look between the booster and the battery, you'll see what looks like a hydraulic cylinder.

My biggest worry would be trying to carry engine vacuum all the way back there.

Romulus 03-11-2011 08:49 AM

Yup. More than likely he has a small single cylinder under the dash attached to his brake pedal that runs a hydraulic line back to the trunk to activate the dual master cylinder.

And then he has to plumb a vacuum line back there from the engine.

The things we will do for a clean firewall. :_paranoid

bentfab 03-11-2011 09:26 AM

Junk !!!

pacificustoms 03-11-2011 09:42 AM

I wonder what the dipstick in the trunk is for? Did it have IRS?

jimbo 03-11-2011 10:00 AM

Corvette suspension.
Crazy looking tube chassis.
The funny thing is there is still a master cyl on the firewall. I assume it is for hydraulic clutch.

http://app4.websitetonight.com/proje...7CHEVY_084.JPG
http://app4.websitetonight.com/proje...7CHEVY_006.JPG

Rhino 03-11-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo (Post 337693)
The funny thing is there is still a master cyl on the firewall. I assume it is for hydraulic clutch.

It's probably an unboosted master that is running the slave in the trunk.
That's a complex mess of brakes for no apparent reason.

I don't see a clutch linkage of any type. I'd assume it's an automatic.

GregWeld 03-11-2011 10:27 AM

What a waste of effort - time - and money.

Put a good properly sized Wilwood manual M/C either under the dash using the Kugel 90* set up like I have on my '32 Ford -- or hang it on the firewall...

Looks to me like he was trying to get power brakes without having the ugly booster in the engine room -- but a properly set up brake system doesn't need a booster of any kind. A booster is a bandaid for improperly set up brakes.

bentfab 03-11-2011 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 337698)
What a waste of effort - time - and money.

Put a good properly sized Wilwood manual M/C either under the dash using the Kugel 90* set up like I have on my '32 Ford -- or hang it on the firewall...

Looks to me like he was trying to get power brakes without having the ugly booster in the engine room -- but a properly set up brake system doesn't need a booster of any kind. A booster is a bandaid for improperly set up brakes.

On the money Greg !

Shmoov69 03-12-2011 09:29 PM

I think it's just a spare in a mount.....kinda like a spare tire mount!!! LoL:thumbsup:


Wow, THAT is over engineering right there!!:willy:

Six_Shooter 03-13-2011 07:58 PM

A friend of mine and I were discussing this very idea, well it was someone he knew that did it.

The reason the guy that he knows that did it, was for weight balance.

GregWeld 03-13-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Six_Shooter (Post 337998)
A friend of mine and I were discussing this very idea, well it was someone he knew that did it.

The reason the guy that he knows that did it, was for weight balance.

Sorry - and not directed at you... but that's a real "non issue" given the total weight of the components involved.

Six_Shooter 03-13-2011 08:14 PM

For the guy that was a friend of a friend, it wasn't a "total" weight issue, it was a balance issue, of getting the front to rear weight bias 50/50 as well as left right to 50/50.

Some people will go to extremes to get things they way they want them.

Sometimes just moving a few pounds in one direction or another can really change weight bias.

I agree that there are other ways to achieve weight bias improvements, but this is how some people do it, other's will move the rads to the rear of the vehicle, fuse blocks, seating position, etc, etc.

Rhino 03-13-2011 08:17 PM

I'd agree that some people go to extremes... but at the same time he could have gotten that same balance by using a stock style composite intake.

It would have been a whole lot less work. :)

GregWeld 03-13-2011 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhino (Post 338003)
I'd agree that some people go to extremes... but at the same time he could have gotten that same balance by using a stock style composite intake.

It would have been a whole lot less work. :)

:rofl: :rofl:


Like I have to tell my friends sometimes... "just because you can, doesn't mean you should".

Vegas69 03-13-2011 10:18 PM

Greg, we're boys but I disagree with you. There is a a reason factory cars all have power brakes. They take less leg with more braking force with a larger bore master cylinder. Higher, harder, compensating system.

wedged 03-14-2011 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhino (Post 337674)
Look between the booster and the battery, you'll see what looks like a hydraulic cylinder.

the brass colored piece is a proportioning valve.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhino (Post 337674)
My biggest worry would be trying to carry engine vacuum all the way back there.

why ? that would be the last of the worries on this Rube Goldberg mess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 337698)
What a waste of effort - time - and money.

:willy: :rofl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shmoov69 (Post 337896)
I think it's just a spare in a mount.....kinda like a spare tire mount!!! LoL:thumbsup:

:rofl:

qbrown 03-14-2011 08:14 AM

When I was scrolling through the pictures I saw the master cylinder mounted on the firewall and literally stopped scrolling to try and figure this out. I just want to know who the builder was so I could ask why he thought it was a good idea to run double the amount of brake lines. Maybe he was getting paid on a per bend basis?

The chassis on this car looks awesome. Not a fan of that interior at all. And the wheels feel like an after thought to me.

Oh well to each there own.

GregWeld 03-14-2011 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 338027)
Greg, we're boys but I disagree with you. There is a a reason factory cars all have power brakes. They take less leg with more braking force with a larger bore master cylinder. Higher, harder, compensating system.

Factory cars aren't race cars - they're for little old ladies to go to the grocery store and they're built so you can stop with your big toe. No LEG involved at all. :rofl:

Romulus 03-14-2011 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 338024)
:rofl: :rofl:


Like I have to tell my friends sometimes... "just because you can, doesn't mean you should".

says the guy with a 45 page build thread on his "completed" hot rod. :lol:

I'm guilty of overthinking pretty much everything... so threads like this remind me to K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid):rofl:

GregWeld 03-14-2011 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romulus (Post 338055)
says the guy with a 45 page build thread on his "completed" hot rod. :lol:

I'm guilty of overthinking pretty much everything... so threads like this remind me to K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid):rofl:

:rofl: Touche!


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