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mrr1999 04-06-2011 03:24 PM

Removing stock sub-frame at home
 
Hey guys-

Anybody know of a good article on removing (and re-installing) the stock sub-frame on a first gen Camaro in a home garage?

I am looking to media blast, weld and paint the stock unit and I will be removing it at home without the use of a lift (just jacks and stands). So I wanted to know what the correct and safe way to do it was...and get it back together. This will be a one man job so I wanted to know what I was up against. Thanks.

Blake Foster 04-06-2011 03:38 PM

Our instruction kit is 2195.00 and comes with a FREE SUB FRAME
:lol: :lol: :thumbsup:

dhutton 04-06-2011 04:05 PM

Check amazon for a used copy of a book titled "Restore Your Camaro" published in the early 90's. It has a good step by step description. There is a couple of guys working on an orange Z28 on the cover.

That's a nice collection of cars you have there.

Don

mrr1999 04-06-2011 05:02 PM

Thanks, Don. I appreciate it.

The kit sounds great, Blake :lol: ....Now if your free sub-frame had a completed Camaro stuck on top of it....

Blake Foster 04-07-2011 08:55 AM

were working on that........... i think we will need to adjust the pricing slightly tho :thumbsup:

MarkM66 04-08-2011 08:58 AM

It'll be self explanatory, just get in there.

I've done them before by myself, the bare sub isn't that heavy. :thumbsup:

Scott Hightower 04-10-2011 07:00 AM

If you are doing this yourself, weld up a support frame that you can mount to a floor jack. This will make it easy to hold everything in place while you bolt it in place.

Scott
welders360

67Rally 04-11-2011 01:59 PM

Is it a rolling chassis, or is the engine and tranny already mounted?

Rolling chassis will obviously be much easier. 6 subframe mounts, 2 under the driver/passenger seat, 2 under the firewall, and 2 at the radiator housing. The front bumper supports attach to the subframe with 2 bolts each. Make sure there are no ground wires attached to the subframe, and it should just pop right out. I would hit all the subframe mounts with something like PB Blaster a couple times during the week before pulling them out. Loosen a little, tighten a little, loosen, tighten until you know for sure they aren't seized up.


Obviously you'll need to jack the car from somewhere other than the subframe to remove it.

If the engine is in place, then you have a lot more things to consider. Wires, hoses, etc.

mrr1999 04-11-2011 02:27 PM

It will be a rolling chassis. Thanks for the the great info. I imagine, once the brake lines are out and any grounding wires are removed, it should come right out. Does that sound right?

67Rally 04-11-2011 04:20 PM

Here are a couple of links on how to replace the subframe bushings. You can use this for reference to remove them all.

http://www.competitionengineering.co...c3027_inst.pdf

http://www.speedtechperformance.com/...prod/prd66.htm

When re-installing the subframe, there will be a set of alignment holes in the mounting plates at the firewall that are used to line up the subframe with the body. You can use a dowel to line the holes up before tightening down the body mounts. The diameter of the hole is something like .62 inches???

MODO Innovations 04-11-2011 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67Rally (Post 342833)
I would hit all the subframe mounts with something like PB Blaster a couple times during the week before pulling them out. Loosen a little, tighten a little, loosen, tighten until you know for sure they aren't seized up.

This is excellent advise. It can save the nuts on the body from damage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrr1999 (Post 342836)
It will be a rolling chassis. Thanks for the the great info. I imagine, once the brake lines are out and any grounding wires are removed, it should come right out. Does that sound right?

Yep, its sounds like you got it.

Blake Foster 04-11-2011 09:03 PM

you get that info i sent you?
was it any help?

mrr1999 04-12-2011 03:20 PM

No, I didn't get anything.

Blake Foster 04-12-2011 05:31 PM

Is the email in your profile correct?

mrr1999 04-13-2011 10:10 AM

Yes, sir.

David Pozzi 04-23-2011 10:25 PM

If the A arms & steering box is off, place the floor jack to the rear of the main crossmember, the rear tails of the sub will want to drag on the floor as you pull it out but you can push down on the front frame horns and pretty much balance it. Support on jack stands each rocker panel near the pinch weld. I put a 2X4 on the jack stands to give it some grip.
David

mrr1999 04-25-2011 02:49 PM

Thanks, David. I appreciate the input.

XcYZ 04-25-2011 04:11 PM

Couple floor jacks, an engine hoist, and some snowmobile dollies and you're all set. :thumbsup:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...t=26575&page=6

GregWeld 04-26-2011 09:05 AM

Here.... You do it just like this! :lol: :unibrow:



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...o/IMG_0718.jpg


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