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lhkustoms 08-10-2011 05:01 PM

67 Nova 2 Door Wagon Project
 
Well I though I would post up some pics of a new project we are working on here in the shop. Its a 1967 Nova 4 door wagon that we are transforming into a 2 door wagon. We are using the longer 2 dr sedan doors and we are planning on having a sliding rear window similiar to a chevelle 2dr wagon. the B pillar is still up in the air as far as what we are shooting for. Here is a rough draft rendering from Jason Rushforth. Plans for the car are LS1 4L65E and TCI mustang II front clip. Stay tuned for more updates.
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/9819fa7f.jpg
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/e2559456.jpg
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/8da15782.jpg
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/6814ee13.jpg
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/51dd48f5.jpg
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/6edb61c1.jpg

lhkustoms 08-10-2011 05:04 PM

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/6dfd55f6.jpg
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/4090190e.jpg
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/2a07f1af.jpg
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/154b5e8d.jpg
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/041b9a10.jpg
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/2a55d9f4.jpg

HWY Nova 08-10-2011 05:37 PM

Awesome project!

I would take the angled post from the rear door and use it on the front door.


--Eric

waynieZ 08-10-2011 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 364691)
Awesome project!

I would take the angled post from the rear door and use it on the front door.


--Eric

That would make it look sweet. Nice project.

HWY Nova 08-10-2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lhkustoms (Post 364686)

Don't pay Jason until he draws in the tires!


--Eric

coolwelder62 08-10-2011 06:11 PM

Awesome project.I have seen a few of these built before.I love the idea.:thumbsup:

lhkustoms 08-10-2011 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 364698)
Don't pay Jason until he draws in the tires!


--Eric

Eric I know im holding out on him til I see some rubber. Actually Jason threw that rough draft idea together pretty quickly for me so I could surprise the owner with a visual concept. Im waiting on the owner to make the trip up here on friday so we can nail down the B pillar design and talk over the sliding rear window and drop off some parts. The owner is really after it looking like it came from the factory as a 2dr wagon. Once we get the little specifics down Jason going to finalize the rendering.

lhkustoms 08-10-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 364699)
Awesome project.I have seen a few of these built before.I love the idea.:thumbsup:

Scott Ya im really enjoying this project. Ive seen a few done over the years. I actually built a 64 Belair 2 dr wagon back in high school but sold it shortly after high school to fund my Chevelle and lost most of the pics of it through moving a few times over the years. It was in Hot Rod mag back in 99 when I took it long haul on the power tour. This project has been in the works for a few years as the owner was interested in the 62 belair 2dr hardtop wagon concept I have on my website but decided he wanted a smaller car so hes been collecting parts for a while and now we are just getting going on it.

JayR 08-10-2011 11:58 PM

This thread and the comments have me thinking more and more about that B-Pillar and I may have to take another stab at it in the morning but what if we do the angle on the back of the door but thicken up the pillar like a Chevelle 2 door wagon? Hmmmm. To be continued........

GregWeld 08-11-2011 12:11 AM

Just start with a Nomad.... Then you'll have a good looking body to start with.

lhkustoms 08-11-2011 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 364775)
Just start with a Nomad.... Then you'll have a good looking body to start with.

Leave it to Mr. Weld for the smart a** comments.
Come on Greg if we did that we'd leave out all the fun fabrication lol

coolwelder62 08-11-2011 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR (Post 364772)
This thread and the comments have me thinking more and more about that B-Pillar and I may have to take another stab at it in the morning but what if we do the angle on the back of the door but thicken up the pillar like a Chevelle 2 door wagon? Hmmmm. To be continued........

I would think tipping the B-pillar forward slightly would be a good look.:thumbsup:

Bryce 08-11-2011 08:40 AM

This will be awesome!

dwfastcam 08-11-2011 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 364775)
Just start with a Nomad.... Then you'll have a good looking body to start with.

Good idea, then he can park it next to all of the other Nomads and tri-fives at the car show that look exactly the same.

Ketzer 08-11-2011 11:40 AM

Another vote for "tipping that B forward". Less excited about the slider windows though.


Jeff-

lhkustoms 08-11-2011 04:50 PM

Ok so here is another rough draft from Jason with the B pillar canted to match the rear. I really like this look and would much prefer to have one piece rear side windows. We will see what the client wants tomorrow.
Just filling in trim holes today
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...NovaWagon3.jpg

GregWeld 08-11-2011 04:59 PM

I went back and looked at both... a couple of times.... the "change" isn't really worth the cost IMHO. To a designer it might make a difference - but I don't think the average guy is going to care. They BOTH look good. There's where I put my $$ -- since the "original" version doesn't look "bad" it's kinda like "why bother". Put the money somewhere else that will make a difference. BUT it's an opinion -- and everyone has an opinion. I know... I went thru this on the '32. :unibrow:

HWY Nova 08-11-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 364890)
I went back and looked at both... a couple of times.... the "change" isn't really worth the cost IMHO. To a designer it might make a difference - but I don't think the average guy is going to care. They BOTH look good. There's where I put my $$ -- since the "original" version doesn't look "bad" it's kinda like "why bother". Put the money somewhere else that will make a difference. BUT it's an opinion -- and everyone has an opinion. I know... I went thru this on the '32. :unibrow:

Blah, blah, blah.

To me, the car has a totally different look with slanted b-pillars..... just like those other Chevy wagons.... What are they called? Oh, yeah: NOMADS!

The wagon, as shown in the revised (still tireless) version will look fast sitting still (I know, its an old, over-used saying). It will aslo give it a more modern look.


--Eric

GregWeld 08-11-2011 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 364892)
Blah, blah, blah.

To me, the car has a totally different look with slanted b-pillars..... just like those other Chevy wagons.... What are they called? Oh, yeah: NOMADS!

The wagon, as shown in the revised (still tireless) version will look fast sitting still (I know, its an old, over-used saying). It will aslo give it a more modern look.


--Eric

Told ya the "designers" would all chime in! :rofl:

lhkustoms 08-11-2011 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 364892)
Blah, blah, blah.

To me, the car has a totally different look with slanted b-pillars..... just like those other Chevy wagons.... What are they called? Oh, yeah: NOMADS!

The wagon, as shown in the revised (still tireless) version will look fast sitting still (I know, its an old, over-used saying). It will aslo give it a more modern look.


--Eric

Eric I agree with you and did a little mock up last night to see what the canted b pillars will look like and it gives it a much more modern look and looks more like it came that way instead being an obvious 2dr conversion. But at the same time I get what Greg is saying and its all up to the client and deciding how much hes willing to let his wallet bleed for his tastes.

GregWeld 08-11-2011 05:14 PM

Just for "reference" here's the Nomad... A B and C pillars...




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...WeldNomad2.jpg

HWY Nova 08-11-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 364896)
Just for "reference" here's the Nomad... A B and C pillars...




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...WeldNomad2.jpg

EXACTLY!


--Eric

GregWeld 08-11-2011 05:19 PM

Eric -- It came that way!

Didn't have to pay to have it custom fabbed - and change the door glass... and the door frame.... and on and on and on...

My comment was more toward the cost / benefit side argument. Cause it looks GOOD either way. While true enough - the slanted B pillar does look more like it was designed properly. I agree with that. :cheers:

coolwelder62 08-11-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 364896)
Just for "reference" here's the Nomad... A B and C pillars...




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...WeldNomad2.jpg

Look's like Greg,Buy's the higher priced rendering's.His has the tires drawn in them.:lol:

HWY Nova 08-11-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 364898)
Eric -- It came that way!

Didn't have to pay to have it custom fabbed - and change the door glass... and the door frame.... and on and on and on...

My comment was more toward the cost / benefit side argument. Cause it looks GOOD either way. While true enough - the slanted B pillar does look more like it was designed properly. I agree with that. :cheers:

"and on and on and on..."???? We aren't talking about having medallions made here, just adjusting the shape of the door glass frame, new door glass (which is flat), and welding in the b-pillar (it has to be removed from its current location anyway). New side glass, for the wagon section, has to be made any way.

My advice: JUST DO IT!


--Eric

JayR 08-12-2011 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 364901)
Look's like Greg,Buy's the higher priced rendering's.His has the tires drawn in them.:lol:

If only his car had the wheels on it!

H8tulooze 08-13-2011 02:40 PM

Ive seen a couple, they look great.

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...owns90/468.jpg

69c4x11 08-21-2011 10:12 AM

Do-it !! my opinion,{ not worth ****{ Slant it !!! the General should have done it before it left Fisher,,

nvawgn 11-18-2011 09:25 PM

more updates?

lhkustoms 11-24-2011 02:23 PM

here are some updated pics..... we are working on the rear slider windows now and will post up some more current pics soon
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/474bab38.jpg
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/c4b1f511.jpg

Ron in SoCal 11-24-2011 02:56 PM

Hey Luke - nice work! I always wondered what the hot rodders do when they need custom side glass? Are there shops out there that do this? Is it really expensive? Researching this I found out that the front glass on chop tops were simply lowered channels.


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