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DENTGUY 10-27-2011 10:31 PM

Inox Shoebox build
 
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So, here goes. Absolutely love forum. Man are there a ton of amazing projects. I'm 4 years into a build that is starting to come together finally.

1956 Belair
Stainless tube chassis and cage
LS376 twin turbo
Tremec 6060
2010 Camaro IRS (refabbed out of stainless) and shortened 10"
Heavy duty axles
C6 front suspension
22x12 rear
20x8.5 front

The goal was to build a shoebox that hadn't been built a hundred times before. I always intended to do a Morrison Chassis until we dove into a bit more. So when I get a bit more comfortable with uploading pics and changing the dimensions, Ill post a few more.

Heres a few pics to get started.

Thanks fellas
Doug

daemon2 10-27-2011 10:34 PM

Looks like a great start!

fleetus macmullitz 10-27-2011 10:44 PM

Very cool to see a '56 turned into a beast. :thumbsup:

Flash68 10-28-2011 12:59 AM

Wow that is a killer project. Welcome. :thumbsup:

xtreme 10-28-2011 07:57 AM

any more pics of the suspension?

DENTGUY 10-28-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xtreme (Post 375970)
any more pics of the suspension?

Actualy yes. A ton! I need to resize them a bit! Too small to see. I'll get on that this weekend. The rear is nearing completion. The front is actually done with mock LS motor and tremec mounted in frame.
Doug

ccm399 10-28-2011 02:52 PM

Hey Doug,

Welcome!

So for the pics the best way to post them it to upload them to Photobucket or Flickr or some other Photo hosting site. Once hosted, you can copy the IMG link and paste it into your post on here. The pics will appear directly in the post and the other members will not have to click on a thumbnail to see the good stuff! :thumbsup:

Hope that helps! Can't wait to see some more progress pics.

Chris

DENTGUY 10-28-2011 03:23 PM

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A few more showing frame and stance. Mock motor.

Obviously, the frame in not complete, but here is a few in progress. Notice the cage and its inset into the body.

Thanks
Doug

DENTGUY 11-19-2011 03:01 PM

Well, car is coming along. We were able to narrow the 2010 Camaro rear end by 10 inches to our specs. Refab it out of tube and replace all those weak trailing arms with custom fully adjustable ones. Ordered up the HD axles to accompany the predicted power. All rubber bushings have been replaced with solid mounts to reduce any possiblity of flex.

The front clip is being re-attached to to body for fitment.
Doug




http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...5/cfbeeea8.jpg

And new refabbed armshttp://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...5/85a5c61d.jpg

Completely refabbed 2010 Camaro rear endhttp://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...5/cfdd07fe.jpg

All solid mounts and adjustable trailing armshttp://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...5/50cd785a.jpg

Front clip being refitted to body.http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...5/5933d727.jpg

DENTGUY 11-25-2011 10:46 PM

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Heres a few more updates from today.

Rear subframe is inside car and we are fabbing mounts. A few pics of the trailing arms refabbed. A pretty good side view of stance of the car.

fleetus macmullitz 11-26-2011 12:28 PM

Nice progress Doug.

A few questions...

What made you choose a '56? (IMO we don't see enough of them.)

What power numbers are you shooting for?

Do you have a target weight for the car?

56pickup 11-26-2011 01:33 PM

Car looks killer! Cant wait to see it done!:thumbsup:

DENTGUY 11-26-2011 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 380634)
Nice progress Doug.

A few questions...

What made you choose a '56? (IMO we don't see enough of them.)

What power numbers are you shooting for?

Do you have a target weight for the car?

Well Ive wanted 3 cars since I was a kid. 56 Bel air, 66 Nova, and 50 Merc. Ive always wanted to build an over-the-top car. This is it for me. Didn't want to build the same old Tri-Five. I've always liked the 56 the best. The front end, the rear wheel wells. It's the best of the three years.

Well that and "every 69 Camaro was already sold":woot: I feel like one of the only guys here that doesn't have one:willy:

Power goal will be near 1000HP. twin turbo LS3 running thru 6 speed tremec.

With the use of stainless as the material for the frame it should come in sub 3000lbs.

After seeing the Optima street car challenge, changed my mind on how the car would be finished. Its a bit more of a "race" resto-mod. It should handle like a cart with all solid mounts and little to no poly or rubber bushing. Less flex should make for a very compliant chassis.

Doug

214Chevy 11-26-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 380634)
...What made you choose a '56? (IMO we don't see enough of them.)

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Originally Posted by DENTGUY (Post 380694)
Well Ive wanted 3 cars since I was a kid. 56 Bel air.... It's the best of the three years.

... "every 69 Camaro was already sold":woot: I feel like one of the only guys here that doesn't have one:willy:


Out of the Tri Fives, the 56 is my favorite as well. I like how the side molding is wider and comes foward and extends thru to the front fender. And that's makes two of us, because I don't have a 69 Camaro either.:(

56pickup 11-26-2011 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 509Chevelle (Post 380702)
Out of the Tri Fives, the 56 is my favorite as well. I like how the side molding is wider and comes foward and extends thru to the front fender. And that's makes two of us, because I don't have a 69 Camaro either.:(

make it 3 of us! ;) I also like the 56 the best (Coming from a Ford Guy)

JayR 11-29-2011 09:59 AM

Cool build, Doug. Where are you in WA?

Kendall Burleson 11-29-2011 11:42 AM

I like the 56 also good start love it.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

DENTGUY 11-29-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JayR (Post 381081)
Cool build, Doug. Where are you in WA?

Car is in Maple Valley.

Jason, we've met. I'm the PDR guy. You know my cousin Cody and Dave Of Collision Specialties. And you've drawn a rendering of my SS Silverado.

Btw: we need to talk wheels

Doug

coolwelder62 11-29-2011 02:07 PM

VERY,VERY Cool.Awesome fab work.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

DENTGUY 11-29-2011 03:43 PM

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Some more pics of rear end and newly fabricated arms.

Alan66ss 11-30-2011 04:14 PM

Really cool build - can't wait till it is complete.

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Originally Posted by DENTGUY (Post 380694)
Well Ive wanted 3 cars since I was a kid. 56 Bel air, 66 Nova, and 50 Merc.Doug


Well I can't agree more - I have two projects a 66 ss chevy II and my old 56 chevy - I bought it back from a fellow after not having it for 17 years.

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Originally Posted by DENTGUY (Post 380694)
Well that and "every 69 Camaro was already sold":woot: I feel like one of the only guys here that doesn't have one:willy:Doug


I have never really wanted to own one - so you definitly are not the only one.

xvette 11-30-2011 05:58 PM

very nice build , love the fab work
:thumbsup:

JayR 12-02-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DENTGUY (Post 381116)
Car is in Maple Valley.

Jason, we've met. I'm the PDR guy. You know my cousin Cody and Dave Of Collision Specialties. And you've drawn a rendering of my SS Silverado.

Btw: we need to talk wheels

Doug

Nice! Small world here in the PNW! Call me anytime, Doug and let me know if you want to put this one on paper too. I'm 30 minutes away and can come out whenever.

69x22 12-02-2011 04:41 PM

Man you guys are hard on us Camaro guys:thumbsup: Oh by the way nice car!

DENTGUY 12-08-2011 07:06 PM

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Well I've got a few more pics of the rear end fab and cage work. A pic of one of the bolts turned in the lathe for appearance. The goal was to keep the cage as tight to the body as we could. We cut out the front corners of the dash and inset the cage thru the dash, then will replace dash to fit around.

Thanks Doug

fleetus macmullitz 12-08-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DENTGUY (Post 383015)
Well I've got a few more pics of the rear end fab and cage work. A pic of one of the bolts turned in the lathe for appearance. The goal was to keep the cage as tight to the body as we could. We cut out the front corners of the dash and inset the cage thru the dash, then will replace dash to fit around.

Thanks Doug

Nice progress Doug. :thumbsup:

On average how much time do you get to spend on it each week?

GregWeld 12-08-2011 08:00 PM

I hate '56's ---- everybody has one of the dang things!:rofl:


Looks good Doug!



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC_4357.jpg

DENTGUY 12-08-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 383028)
I hate '56's ---- everybody has one of the dang things!:rofl:


Looks good Doug!



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC_4357.jpg

:thumbsup: Yeah, they are like Camaro's. Everyone has one.:lol:

DENTGUY 12-09-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 383024)
Nice progress Doug. :thumbsup:

On average how much time do you get to spend on it each week?

I'd say probably 20 hours a week! Sometimes more.

fleetus macmullitz 12-09-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DENTGUY (Post 383113)
I'd say probably 20 hours a week! Sometimes more.


That's a lot obviously. Nice that you can keep making some timely progress on it. :thumbsup:

I noticed you've got some big wheels planned for it. What influenced you to choose those sizes?

DENTGUY 12-09-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 383245)
That's a lot obviously. Nice that you can keep making some timely progress on it. :thumbsup:

I noticed you've got some big wheels planned for it. What influenced you to choose those sizes?

The 20/18 wheel combo has been done A LOT! I'm trying to remake a car thats been made a thousand times before. Not Easy! I guess its like trying to build a 69 Camaro that people look at and say "wow" . Hard to do something that so many people have done well so many times before.

DENTGUY 12-10-2011 09:51 PM

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Drove out to see my car and fiddle today. Discussed rear seat arragements and front wheel size. Also tunnel thru middle of car. The goal is to leave the cage exposed and also the tunnel showing the bars, finished as brushed stainless. Final frame and cage should be done by years end.

Try not to get too attached to those 90's Vette wheels:lol:

Thinking about colors and finishes. And still trying to figure out a catchy name for this build.

Doug

DENTGUY 12-13-2011 04:57 PM

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Set the motor in for the first time..

xtreme 12-13-2011 05:03 PM

Looks great man! How did you correctly set up all the suspension geometry on your build? I havent got to that stage yet on mine

DENTGUY 12-13-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xtreme (Post 383912)
Looks great man! How did you correctly set up all the suspension geometry on your build? I havent got to that stage yet on mine

I originally had the front cradle out of a corvette. We took all the measurements and went from there.

The rear is set the same way. I have the rear subframe out of the 2010 Camaro still and we put a stock one in the air and took every measurement know to man...

Hows your build coming along????

xtreme 12-13-2011 05:38 PM

Awesome build you have going, I love the stainless tubing! I might have to ask for your opinions in the future when I get to the suspension if you dont mind. , Ive got the entire rear cradle and rails out of a c5 vette waiting for measurments and I should be able to either grab a front cradle from a friend or take measurements off another friends vette for the front suspension.

The biggest hold up for me right now is the jig, probably bit off alittle bit more then I can handle on it but, Im planning to do something about it this week or the next. I have had the car for exactly three years now and all I want to do is complete the jig, mount the body, engine, drivetrain, suspension, etc and Ill be ok for ahwile. Thanks for asking

DENTGUY 12-13-2011 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xtreme (Post 383919)
Awesome build you have going, I love the stainless tubing! I might have to ask for your opinions in the future when I get to the suspension if you dont mind. , Ive got the entire rear cradle and rails out of a c5 vette waiting for measurments and I should be able to either grab a front cradle from a friend or take measurements off another friends vette for the front suspension.

The biggest hold up for me right now is the jig, probably bit off alittle bit more then I can handle on it but, Im planning to do something about it this week or the next. I have had the car for exactly three years now and all I want to do is complete the jig, mount the body, engine, drivetrain, suspension, etc and Ill be ok for ahwile. Thanks for asking

No problem. Ill get you in touch with Mike who's doing all the fab work and suspension set up. He really knows his stuff. He's built a race car or two. He did some fab work on his brothers 29 roadster at Bonneville. Qualified 3 times for the world record. 227 MPH. Pretty sure neither of us will go quite that fast.:thumbsup:

xtreme 12-14-2011 05:38 AM

I appreciate it! Keep the pics coming. So how much longer do you think you have in the project?

jy211 12-14-2011 06:47 AM

we need more shoebox builds :thumbsup:

Ricochet 12-14-2011 07:53 AM

Awesome build you have coming together! Look forward to watching this one.


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