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XcYZ 12-01-2011 05:34 PM

Buy Stielow's Pro Touring book directly from him
 
Just a heads up, you can now order Mark's Mule build book 'Pro Touring' directly from him on his website:

www.MarkStielow.com


$26.95, free shipping. :thumbsup:


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camcojb 12-01-2011 05:50 PM

got a copy here, it's a very nice book.

brownz 12-01-2011 05:53 PM

Dang! just got mine last week from DSE with some other stuff I orederd, GREAT book!!! Thanks Mark!

GregWeld 12-01-2011 06:47 PM

Who??



:lol:

Spiffav8 12-01-2011 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brownz (Post 381670)
Dang! just got mine last week from DSE with some other stuff I orederd, GREAT book!!! Thanks Mark!

Me to. Paid almost as much for the shipping as I did the book! :faint:

I'm all for buying direct from the source and wish this would have happened last week. Oh well....awesome book and SO much help. I'll be dragging this one around in my flight bag for awhile. :thumbsup:

camcojb 12-01-2011 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 381680)
Who??



:lol:

Stigelow man.............. Stigelow. :lol:

Flash68 12-01-2011 07:39 PM

Already have the book -- great one it is.

Now... when can we expect more content from markstielow.com? :unibrow:

Track Junky 12-01-2011 07:52 PM

I bet we see an IRS build for the next one.

Congrats on the book. I'm a cheap SOB and I dont even buy magazines so I wont by the book but congrats on the book and as I said before, Mark is the one that got me started in all of this back in 2000.

With all the money Mark has made me dump into my car I think I should get a free-bee :lol:

Just kidding and once again congrats on what I am sure is an awesome book :thumbsup:

Scorpner 12-01-2011 09:09 PM

Awesome! :thumbsup:

Van B 12-01-2011 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 381702)
I bet we see an IRS build for the next one.

Shouldn't be long before we find out. The car has to be to that stage if not further already.

wiedemab 12-02-2011 05:02 AM

Done and Done!
 
I've been meaning to buy it - - thanks for the reminder. I'm happy to buy it directly from Mark too!

Stielow 12-02-2011 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Van B (Post 381722)
Shouldn't be long before we find out. The car has to be to that stage if not further already.

Thanks for the positive feedback on the book. I have had fun with the book.

I will not be using an IRS on my next project. An IRS can work given enough development time. A solid axle is 3 things I like: relatively cheap, durable and developed.

Things that worry me about an IRS are power hop, strength, mass and durability. I have pounded on my Currie / DSE 4 link and have had no issues once I made it into a floater with the ZR-1 bearings.

I have worked with a number of IRS rear suspensions and they are superior to a solid axle for ride, weight transfer, rear camber gain and putting power down on rough corners. I have also seen how much development work was required to make them live and work with an engine making 550 ft*lbs of torque. My new car is way North of that number around 800++ ft*lbs.

Part of the way I’ve been able to build as many cars as I have is to not put too much reach in each one of my projects. I’m an evolutionary builder vs. a guy that makes each car revolutionary. Keeping with the same basic car has allowed me to evolve my projects to the point the Red Devil is. The Red Devil was nothing really trick it was just the accumulation of the all projects I have done to date. So now that I’m doing my 13th Camaro I’m picking and choosing the stuff I liked and getting rid of the stuff I did not like. The Red Devil it a direct descendent of the Mule. When I was at the Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals it was fun to look at the Mule then the Red Devil and remember what I kept that worked and what I changed that did not. Today with all the aftermarket parts available it is much easier to build a Pro-Touring car than ever. Just have a purpose or vision of what you want your car to be.

Not to plug my book, but a lot of what I did on the Mule is still very relevant today even though that car was started almost 10 years ago. If the Mule was a fresh build today I’m sure it would make a splash at most car shows……. It stopped traffic all weekend at MCACN. :thumbsup:

Mark

fleet 12-02-2011 08:53 AM

Mark,

Good argument for not using an IRS.

That being said, if you were to use an IRS, would you adapt a lot of the ZR-1 set-up since it is proven to work at power levels beyond the 550 fwtq you referenced, or would you go in a different direction?

Thanks.

rrunner68 12-02-2011 09:59 AM

Just out of curiosity, how non-camaro friendly is this book?

Flash68 12-02-2011 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrunner68 (Post 381801)
Just out of curiosity, how non-camaro friendly is this book?

One thing that applies to any car build is the great organizational and management techniques Mark shares in this book. It really is full of interesting and yet useful tools and advice beyond just Camaro parts. I think you would find it a rewarding book, Dan.

OLDFLM 12-02-2011 10:55 AM

2nd Gen! 2nd Gen! 2nd Gen!
 
I'd still love to see Mark do a 2nd Gen... am I the only one??? :_paranoid

hifi875 12-02-2011 11:21 AM

just ordered mine.:thumbsup:

67ragtp 12-02-2011 12:43 PM

just ordered but wife wont let me see it till xmas :(

SpeedyV10 12-02-2011 12:55 PM

Just ordered 2. Thanks Mark!

:thumbsup:

sik68 12-02-2011 02:31 PM

BAM! Just purchased; can't wait!


Amatouring 12-02-2011 04:07 PM

I bought and read a copy when it first came out. When I was at MCACN, I meant to bring it along and see if I could get it signed. I forgot it at home so I did what any normal person would do. I bought a new one and had that one signed. I don't currently have a Camaro, but the techniques in that book are still worthwhile.

cheezer 12-08-2011 04:03 AM

Canadian/International orders
 
I tried to buy a copy yesterday, but my purchase was refunded.

I presume because it was an international order, outside the continental U.S.

How can I get a copy up here ?

cheezer

Nine Ball 12-08-2011 05:26 AM

Ordered!

Looking forward to the read, thanks Mark.

Tony

ModernMuseum 12-08-2011 05:51 AM

Awesome. Ordered.

Stielow 12-08-2011 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezer (Post 382895)
I tried to buy a copy yesterday, but my purchase was refunded.

I presume because it was an international order, outside the continental U.S.

How can I get a copy up here?

cheezer

Sorry, I've had orders from Finland. Canada and Australia. I'm not set up to ship international. I do know it will cost more to ship out of the continental USA and every time I've tried to ship international it has been very expensive and a hassle.

The book is also sold through http://sdparts.com/ (Scogging Dickey) and www.DSE.com (Detroit Speed). I think either of those sources can handle international shipments.

Thanks everyone for the orders, I shipped out about 20 books yesterday. You should see them soon.

Mark Stielow

Stuart Adams 12-08-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 382911)
Sorry, I've had orders from Finland. Canada and Australia. I'm not set up to ship international. I do know it will cost more to ship out of the continental USA and every time I've tried to ship international it has been very expensive and a hassle.

The book is also sold through http://sdparts.com/ (Scogging Dickey) and www.DSE.com (Detroit Speed). I think either of those sources can handle international shipments.

Thanks everyone for the orders, I shipped out about 20 books yesterday. You should see them soon.

Mark Stielow

Glad your getting them sold.

BODYSHOPMARO 12-13-2011 04:49 PM

love it!

mpozziCPL 12-13-2011 06:51 PM

Just got our books today and thanks, Mark. Got a chance to look through the first few pages and you've built some very cool cars. Can't wait to get more acquainted with the pages in the next few weeks and a lot of your speed secrets will hopefully be included in upcoming months.

Thanks again,
Mary Pozzi

Formula43 Wheel 12-13-2011 06:59 PM

Great book a must read before building a new ride of any make/model.

clill 12-13-2011 07:26 PM

You guys quit kissing up to his new book. He is gonna get a fat head and I won't be able to steal any more cars from him.

mikels 12-14-2011 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clill (Post 383962)
You guys quit kissing up to his new book. He is gonna get a fat head and I won't be able to steal any more cars from him.

Gonna??? Little late for that, isn't it Charlie? He already had to order a new helmet 1 size bigger....

Given the ink he's got through the years, he's still pretty grounded.

clill 12-21-2011 05:56 PM

https://www.youtube.com/user/V8TV

Track Junky 12-21-2011 09:56 PM

Thanks for sharing, that was a really good interview.

Looking forward to the next build.

Flash68 12-24-2011 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clill (Post 385409)

Nice. Even Stielow plans on going "more race car" with the next build. Where he goes, many follow! :D :thumbsup:

XcYZ 12-24-2011 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 385926)
Nice. Even Stielow plans on going "more race car" with the next build. Where he goes, many follow! :D :thumbsup:


I think it's more of Mark going full circle. :thumbsup:

Flash68 12-24-2011 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XcYZ (Post 385936)
I think it's more of Mark going full circle. :thumbsup:

Good point. But not many were following or knew who he was back in early 90's. Now he's a damn legend! :thumbsup:

And his comments about going race car were telling in that the recent Optima group of cars have "inspired" him to go this direction.... as you say... again. :)

Spiffav8 12-24-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 385926)
Nice. Even Stielow plans on going "more race car" with the next build. Where he goes, many follow! :D :thumbsup:

"More Race Car" is that anything like "More Cow Bell". :lol:

89 RS 12-25-2011 08:51 PM

I got the book for Christmas today from my wife... pretty stoked and ready to start reading!

Diognes56 12-26-2011 07:21 AM

Well I know what I am going to order tonight! One more thing to read this winter.

David


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