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Iamtheonlyreal1 12-02-2011 11:12 AM

I knew I liked Adam Carolla for some reason.. His take on the OWS Generation. LOL
 
I knew I liked Adam Carolla, and now I know why... He nailed on the head here in his rant, there is a bit of profanity involved, but the message is spot on..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cJD8pZiRIzs


qnitro 12-02-2011 03:33 PM

I Love This Interview

73CPCAMARO 12-02-2011 03:48 PM

:thumbsup: :cheers: :woot:

Al Moreno 12-02-2011 04:44 PM

That was really good stuff! I think though that if you edit out all "F" words, you can shorten the interview from 9 minutes down to 2, LOL. :D

booah 12-02-2011 04:49 PM

Spot on and in Australia its the exact same thing. There's no such thing as failing and staying back another year in school. Taxes, same thing here.

Iamtheonlyreal1 12-02-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 381860)
That was really good stuff! I think though that if you edit out all "F" words, you can shorten the interview from 9 minutes down to 2, LOL. :D

Probably true, but if you notice, that is the form of communication that the generation he is talking about understands. If it was someone in a suit, with proper vocabulary, I dont think they would even listen.. ha ha Atleast I hope a few of them listen and catch a clue.

I must say though, he is all over the map when it comes to explaining why and how these generations have come to be, but it does nicely tie in all together. I am also a child of the 70's-80's, and I have witnessed pretty well everything he is talking about.. I remember seeing other kids get the special treatment (ass douche), and I can honestly say, I appreciate the fact it didnt happen to me.. LOL

MattO 12-02-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 (Post 381867)
Probably true, but if you notice, that is the form of communication that the generation he is talking about understands. If it was someone in a suit, with proper vocabulary, I dont think they would even listen.. ha ha Atleast I hope a few of them listen and catch a clue.

It's sad but true. My generation swears more than any of them before. I talk like a sailor and I'm really trying to get better at it.

I can't agree with this rant more. I'm only allowed to press the 'Like' button once... :lol:

I'm personally embarrassed by these OWS brats. Bunch of whiny little pricks who don't understand why their degree in liberal arts didn't help them get a job. Life isn't fair, at all. Many of them need to learn this lesson. I worked very hard to get what I have and I'm ashamed at the thought that THIS might be the movement that defines my generation.


Just... yeah, I'm going to walk away from the computer and lower my blood pressure. I get so pissed at the mere thought of these idiots... :willy:

Sieg 12-02-2011 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 (Post 381867)
Probably true, but if you notice, that is the form of communication that the generation he is talking about understands. If it was someone in a suit, with proper vocabulary, I dont think they would even listen.. ha ha Atleast I hope a few of them listen and catch a clue.

I must say though, he is all over the map when it comes to explaining why and how these generations have come to be, but it does nicely tie in all together. I am also a child of the 70's-80's, and I have witnessed pretty well everything he is talking about.. I remember seeing other kids get the special treatment (ass douche), and I can honestly say, I appreciate the fact it didnt happen to me.. LOL

I was thinking his delivery was a little extreme, but then I remembered the audience his message is directed at. IMO his theory is on target.

intocarss 12-02-2011 07:11 PM

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Track Junky 12-02-2011 07:44 PM

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

NOPANTS68 12-02-2011 08:02 PM

Yep that's my boy. Been listening to him for 10 years. Not exactly words to live by, but it's nice to see at least one celebrity in LA with common sense. See his stand up live if you get a chance as it's a much funnier version of what's been posted here. Way to go Ace.

Iamtheonlyreal1 12-02-2011 09:05 PM

Here is a funny thing, and I guess it shows a more liberal scew, but I posted this same video on another forum, and it is getting a whole other response.. It is a Volvo Group, which I guess tends to be more liberal.. LOL Some of the things said in objection, just blows my mind that anyone can think that.

Sandbagger 12-02-2011 09:56 PM

Top 1% of tax payers ,pay 50% of the taxes .
Is that accurate ? Where did this data come from , the Mark & Brian show ?
I dont think so ...
Is the system that screwed up ?Lived in Oxnard for six years .
You can keep it .

MattO 12-02-2011 10:28 PM

1% pay 36.7% of total individual income taxes paid and earn 16.9% of the Adjusted Gross Income (AGI).

EDIT: In 2009

GregWeld 12-02-2011 11:06 PM

Wow.... he's spot on.

I typed up an entire page here - then deleted it all. I'll just keep my mouth shut. :_paranoid

Iamtheonlyreal1 12-02-2011 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 381923)
Wow.... he's spot on.

I typed up an entire page here - then deleted it all. I'll just keep my mouth shut. :_paranoid

Me too.. That is about as real as you can get, and I have much respect for anyone in the spotlight that will spell it out.. I would have loved to have been there to witness this speech, it would have been priceless.. I wonder if anyone recorded it, there is nothing like a truthful and uplifting speech.. I know a few of the academic under achievers, and he summed them up perfectly... LOL

Track Junky 12-03-2011 12:22 AM

Thanks for sharing. Definitley something to copy, save, and share with my kids when it is time. I dont agree with his definition of fortunate/lucky though or maybe I just misinterpeted it. The fortunate/lucky are the ones that were prepared, recognized when the opportunity presented itself, and then ran with it. The old saying "lucky is when preperation meets opportunity"

Some people dont get the proper direction or help when young due to the atmosphere they were brought up in. What would be the definition for that scenario? In order to make a positive choice, you need to be able to recognize that choice is available to you.

Maybe I'm off base here. I understand he was giving a speech among graduates but in my opinion I do believe in luck and being fortunate. IMO the graduates were lucky to have peers/parents/support/etc that helped steer and push them in a positve direction. The graduates were lucky to know that the opportunities and choices were there.

None the less, a great speech.

hectore3 12-03-2011 08:40 AM

In some respects Mr. Corrola is right about the "me" generations with all the mandatory trophies and such. But where the wheels fall off his argument is the blind worship of those who "built" the company.

There are legions of companies who have moved all operations overseas to China and those jobs are never coming back. This has been happening in particular in the midwest of this country for decades. It's just that really recently it has started to really bite at the heels of the upper middle class and their children. A college degree means little when now professional jobs can be outsourced. And student loans are forever.

If one has to work their tail off as Mr. Corrola says I'm in complete agreement with that 100 percent. But at the same time banks and corporations cannot gamble with their shareholders money and then be recapitalized with our tax revenue with no reprecussions. The have turned capitalism into a cruel joke. Corporate welfare has cost us more than anything ever.

Seems to me the ultimate form of free money has gone to the financial sector in the trillions of dollars/euro's/pounds. I don't agree with the tactics of the OWS crowd. But I must admit they are the canary in the coal mine regarding the general feeling to the powers that be.

Mr. Corolla is apparently telling a partial truth as this whole ball of wax is much more complicated than he has described.

Iamtheonlyreal1 12-03-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hectore3 (Post 381962)
In some respects Mr. Corrola is right about the "me" generations with all the mandatory trophies and such. But where the wheels fall off his argument is the blind worship of those who "built" the company.

There are legions of companies who have moved all operations overseas to China and those jobs are never coming back. This has been happening in particular in the midwest of this country for decades. It's just that really recently it has started to really bite at the heels of the upper middle class and their children. A college degree means little when now professional jobs can be outsourced. And student loans are forever.

If one has to work their tail off as Mr. Corrola says I'm in complete agreement with that 100 percent. But at the same time banks and corporations cannot gamble with their shareholders money and then be recapitalized with our tax revenue with no reprecussions. The have turned capitalism into a cruel joke. Corporate welfare has cost us more than anything ever.

Seems to me the ultimate form of free money has gone to the financial sector in the trillions of dollars/euro's/pounds. I don't agree with the tactics of the OWS crowd. But I must admit they are the canary in the coal mine regarding the general feeling to the powers that be.

Mr. Corolla is apparently telling a partial truth as this whole ball of wax is much more complicated than he has described.

I think you are missing the point.. He is talking about the successful invidual and not coporations. He is talking about the individuals in your community that have done well for themselves, and earned the luxury or toys the acquired..

His statements have nothing to do about figures, it has to do with the lack of common sense mentality of the me generation. Even if you listen to the reasoning of the other side, Equality is not in their vocabulary..

D Rock 12-03-2011 03:51 PM

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"There's something that's come up in this country that didn't used to exist, which is envy, and it's a big issue. We are now dealing with the first wave of participation-trophy, my-own-fecal-matter-doesn't-stink, empowered . . . everybody's-a-winner, there-are-no-losers — we are dealing with the first wave of those [expletive] a**holes. That's who we're dealing with now."
Carolla seems to miss the point to me. All the name calling and bashing do not touch on the real issues at all and are distractions. OWS isn't pissed that some people are driving nice cars and they aren't, completely irrelevant. These people don't want a rolls Royce or Ferrari, they don't look up at these people with envy, rather down with disgust because our fellow brothers and sisters around the world are starving.

You must instinctively understand that everything you have in your home, came from somewhere, at a cost of someones time and energy. Would some of this energy used for our blind consumerism be better used in the stomach of a starving child, or healthcare for the sick?? Some certainly think so.

Perhaps lateral-g is a good representation of this as we don't think twice about spending thousands on some billet aluminum that gives us pleasure for a week or two, but Africa?? F**k them they can all starve to death for all we care.

So back to OWS, some of these people have worked to get through school, now graduate in mortgage levels of school loans, and cannot find jobs. I might be a little pissy too if I was in their position. The banks more or less have created a "Degree" Bubble, much like the housing bubble. We push for everyone to go to college, give them low interest loans, and openly accept any dumbass into the universities these days. Surprise surprise, now everyone has a degree and they are worthless.

As far as individual responsibility, there are four main factors that determine how much you will make in your lifetime:

1. Year you were born
2. Country you were born in
3. Circumstance
4. Work Ethic

Many baby boomers of today are extremely wealthly(compared to the rest of the world) for one main reason, the US hit its peak oil in 1970. We had an abundance of cheap energy that we could sell to the world and use as we please, and everyone profited.

If you really think that how hard you work determines income, consider you were born in China 300 years ago and worked the same amount you have your whole life, your income figures would be way different.


Something struck a chord? Remember the truth knows no sensitivity!

Looking forward to an open minded discussion

Iamtheonlyreal1 12-03-2011 04:09 PM

Quote Carolla seems to miss the point to me. All the name calling and bashing do not touch on the real issues at all and are distractions. OWS isn't pissed that some people are driving nice cars and they aren't, completely irrelevant. These people don't want a rolls Royce or Ferrari, they don't look up at these people with envy, rather down with disgust because our fellow brothers and sisters around the world are starving.

You must instinctively understand that everything you have in your home, came from somewhere, at a cost of someones time and energy. Would some of this energy used for our blind consumerism be better used in the stomach of a starving child, or healthcare for the sick?? Some certainly think so.

Perhaps lateral-g is a good representation of this as we don't think twice about spending thousands on some billet aluminum that gives us pleasure for a week or two, but Africa?? F**k them they can all starve to death for all we care.

So back to OWS, some of these people have worked to get through school, now graduate in mortgage levels of school loans, and cannot find jobs. I might be a little pissy too if I was in their position. The banks more or less have created a "Degree" Bubble, much like the housing bubble. We push for everyone to go to college, give them low interest loans, and openly accept any dumbass into the universities these days. Surprise surprise, now everyone has a degree and they are worthless. End Quote



Ok here is the deal.. You are correct about the sensitivity, so please understhand that you have incorporated sensitivity into your statment.. Now as far as the OWS protestor go, it may have started out as Corporate, but it has gone to the individual also.

Anyone with a brain, should be careful as to what degree they decide to go for.. It is very very easy to know if your diploma will be worthless or not, so I am tired of hearing about that plight. If you were intelligent enough to go to college, you should have been intelligent enough to make an conscience decision about your future. Liberal Arts, isnt going to do a damn thing in the real world, so dont get mad if it doesnt get you where you want to go..

As far as what I, or others work hard for. I do understand what you saying to a degree, and I do my part to help my fellow man. If you really feel that way, then you should not spend a single penny on anything that would be considered a novelty or luxury.. Donate your excess and time to the causes you speak of, or else you are just as guilty as the people you are pointing to. By your own statement, it is a plight that you feel strongly about, along with trying to point guilt, but you personally are killing people if you dont give everything you possibly can also.. So, I hope you can sleep at night, because you spent money on a nice dinner or wheels..

parsonsj 12-03-2011 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRock
As far as individual responsibility, there are four main factors that determine how much you will make in your lifetime:

1. Year you were born
2. Country you were born in
3. Circumstance
4. Work Ethic

Maybe this is what you meant by "circumstance", but the attribute rich (1%) people have that correlates the strongest statistically speaking is that their parents were rich.

IOW, if you are in the top 1% income-earning in the US, the thing about you and all your fellow 1 per centers that is most in common is that you had rich parents. Intelligence, education, effort, and talent matter. But not as much as luck. :)

camcojb 12-03-2011 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by parsonsj (Post 382090)
Maybe this is what you meant by "circumstance", but the attribute rich (1%) people have that correlates the strongest statistically speaking is that their parents were rich.

IOW, if you are in the top 1% income-earning in the US, the thing about you and all your fellow 1 per centers that is most in common is that you had rich parents. Intelligence, education, effort, and talent matter. But not as much as luck. :)

that may be true John, but the only two people I know who I'm comfortable calling 1%ers both made their money without help from parents or family.

XcYZ 12-03-2011 07:32 PM

The OWS crowd is the 1% to the rest of the population of the world. How ironic.

98ssnova 12-03-2011 07:42 PM

:cheers: where is the popcorn smilies

parsonsj 12-03-2011 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott
The OWS crowd is the 1% to the rest of the population of the world. How ironic.

I don't know about irony, but the only reason most of these people have the luxury (and right) of protesting is that they were born in this country within the past 60 years or so. Another example of luck.

Van B 12-03-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 (Post 382069)
If you were intelligent enough to go to college, you should have been intelligent enough to make an conscience decision about your future.

Didn't go, eh?

Iamtheonlyreal1 12-03-2011 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Van B (Post 382117)
Didn't go, eh?

No I didnt.. I took about a year off of school out of high school, and made too much money to qualify for assistance, and couldnt take the pay cut while attending.. LOL To be honest, I noticed then it would take 6-8 years of school to get a diploma that made a major difference in income potentia, so I made a conscience decision not to pursue that avenue.. I gained experience and education in various fields, and got technical training through the General Motors Training Programs..

D Rock 12-04-2011 02:19 PM

Quote:

Anyone with a brain, should be careful as to what degree they decide to go for.. It is very very easy to know if your diploma will be worthless or not, so I am tired of hearing about that plight. If you were intelligent enough to go to college, you should have been intelligent enough to make an conscience decision about your future. Liberal Arts, isnt going to do a damn thing in the real world, so dont get mad if it doesnt get you where you want to go..
These are kids that are 18 going off to college, you would have to have huge oversight to predict where the markets for your degree will be in 4 years. But that is still besides the point, the devaluation of college degrees through saturation of the market is there, no matter what the field.

Quote:

As far as what I, or others work hard for. I do understand what you saying to a degree, and I do my part to help my fellow man. If you really feel that way, then you should not spend a single penny on anything that would be considered a novelty or luxury.. Donate your excess and time to the causes you speak of, or else you are just as guilty as the people you are pointing to. By your own statement, it is a plight that you feel strongly about, along with trying to point guilt, but you personally are killing people if you dont give everything you possibly can also.. So, I hope you can sleep at night, because you spent money on a nice dinner or wheels.
I agree, a man who doesn't live by his convictions is not a man by all in my standards. However I don't believe the problem starts with the person, more than anything we are conditioned by the environment we live in. And this game that surrounds us, the game of whoever has the most stuff, the most expensive stuff, the rarest stuff, is just that, a game. With that said i'm not trying to point guilt at anyone, maybe just open some eyelids a little.

Sieg 12-04-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 98ssnova (Post 382098)
:cheers: where is the popcorn smilies

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Iamtheonlyreal1 12-04-2011 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D Rock (Post 382232)
These are kids that are 18 going off to college, you would have to have huge oversight to predict where the markets for your degree will be in 4 years. But that is still besides the point, the devaluation of college degrees through saturation of the market is there, no matter what the field.


I dont think it is that hard to pick a direction, and find out what the income and job opening potential is.. But there is no way that you can tell me, that someone picking an education and life direction, shouldnt do a bit of research into it? Really? I do understand about the Devaluation of a college diploma, and that is one of the reasons I chose not to go. I wasnt going to dedicate the extra years and expense to get the supplimental paper it took to stand out of the College Degree crowd.



I agree, a man who doesn't live by his convictions is not a man by all in my standards. However I don't believe the problem starts with the person, more than anything we are conditioned by the environment we live in. And this game that surrounds us, the game of whoever has the most stuff, the most expensive stuff, the rarest stuff, is just that, a game. With that said i'm not trying to point guilt at anyone, maybe just open some eyelids a little.

For some of us, it isnt a game at all, it is an art form. Some of us appreciate the vehicles, and or its components, for just what they are. Some of my favorite cars are not the most popular, and I do the things purely for the appreciation of the car and industry. Sure there are a few people on here that pay for things for status, and dont do their own work or design, but I am betting they are far and few between on here..

Van B 12-04-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 (Post 382119)
No I didnt.. I took about a year off of school out of high school, and made too much money to qualify for assistance, and couldnt take the pay cut while attending.. LOL To be honest, I noticed then it would take 6-8 years of school to get a diploma that made a major difference in income potentia, so I made a conscience decision not to pursue that avenue.. I gained experience and education in various fields, and got technical training through the General Motors Training Programs..

Glad you took my comment in the way it was intended, just a fun little jab. I am a freak on spelling and context. Drives me nuts to see the errors in the magazines I read each month.

I probably could have gotten where I am today without the degree, but it was what probably opened the door...

GregWeld 12-04-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D Rock (Post 382232)
And this game that surrounds us, the game of whoever has the most stuff, the most expensive stuff, the rarest stuff, is just that, a game. With that said i'm not trying to point guilt at anyone, maybe just open some eyelids a little.



Well thank god! Hey Charley.... WE'VE been declared winners!!


EEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA
:rofl: :rofl: :woot:

Vegas69 12-04-2011 06:41 PM

The man with the most toys when he dies, wins!:lol:

Al Moreno 12-04-2011 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 382272)
The man with the most toys when he dies, wins!:lol:


I read a billboard once that said " The man that dies with the most toys is still dead" LOL:_paranoid

Track Junky 12-04-2011 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 382272)
The man with the most toys when he dies, wins!:lol:

:yes: :yes: :yes: :lol:

GregWeld 12-04-2011 07:58 PM

I'll tell you what scares me - for humanity in general - is how many people lack adequate (or anything for that matter) retirement funds.... With the average age stretching out to be around 90 years old. If you retire at 65... that's a very, very long time to be retired. It takes a healthy bank account to live that long in retirement!

People need to stop asking "how much do you make" and start asking - how much are you saving?


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