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makoshark 03-05-2012 04:09 AM

67 Camaro project "It Don't Fit"
 
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I am now presenting the Lat-g debut of my world famous 67 Camaro. This car will be the standard for all builds to follow. It will be the pinnacle of the pro-touring movement. It will achieve what others have set out to do, but would fall short every time.:unibrow:

Ok, back to reality. I decided to showcase my build, not only, to show off my lack of skills, but to, hopefully, get the help I need instead of starting many threads.

Objectives of my build:
1. GET IT DONE! I started this build 10 years ago and its time to get it done and enjoy it.
2. Chew bubble gum and kick ace:cool: at the events.

Details:
67 RS car. It is an early build. Bolero Red with black vinyl top. Factory console with gauges and tach. Black deluxe interior with fold down rear seat. Tinted windshield. Interior bright trim. Big ole bumper guards. Powerglide car with 12 bolt rear. 4 wheel manual drum brakes. All of which has been changed for a more modern setup, except the 12 bolt.

First was rust repair...

Dash top
Toe boards
LH and RH floor boards
Center trunk pan
NOS outer wheel houses
NOS quarters
Patch lower corners of front fenders
NOS header panel

I built a rotisserie and finished all the welds and sandblasted the majority of the car. I then finished the bottom all the way up to high build primer.

It took me several years working on the car every now and then to get all the above done. I then got burned out on the car and it sat for a few years with very little progress made.

Flash forward to today...

I had a friend build me a 4L60E trans with all upgraded internals. It will be utilizing the Baumann Optishift trans controller.
I had so many new SBC parts laying around that I scraped my LS1 build and put together a 450 horse SBC 350.
I put all new bearings and new Moser axles in my factory Eaton posi, 3.73 12 bolt rear diff with a 'Jegs' aluminum diff cover. Need to find someone to weld up the tubes.
I recently purchased the Ridetech AirBar with their new single adjustable coilovers.
Speedtech ATS Chicane front coilover mounts for the stock subframe.
Ridetech upper and lower control arms
DSE 600 steering box
Ridetech Tru Turn setup
DSE subframe connectors
DSE firewall fill plate
DSE mini tubs
Vintage Air Gen IV hvac setup with billet controller
Speedhut custom gauge set
Custom center console modeled after the 67 original gauge console, but with an arm rest and cup holder
Lokar billet 6" shifter
Lokar LED shifter display bezel with boot
Billet steering wheel
Cheesy Ebay aluminum radiator
LT1 electric fams
Spal PWM fan controller
PI Vigilante 2600 converter
B&M trans cooler
-AN fittings
SS hardlines
Wilwood 13" 6 piston front brakes
Wilwood 12.19" rear brakes
G-Force transmission crossmember
EMS billet hood hinges
EMS billet tail light bezels
Hotchkis front sway bar
LED tail lights and 05 Grand Am LED center brake light. Will be inserted in rear spoiler
AAW Classic update wiring harness
18" C6 Z06 Motorsports wheels
Nitto NT 05 tires

That is where the car is at the moment. I am, now, in the process of mini tubbing the car. To save a little coin, I'm going to just split the factory inner tubs and add metal to them.

makoshark 03-05-2012 04:13 AM

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Few more photos of the car and where it is at the moment

Mrfixit 03-05-2012 08:22 AM

Looks good so far. I like that you have utilized the 67 console trim in your custom console. It's sad that most people, other than those on this forum, will never appreciate the amount of work that goes into the under-side of these cars. Keep up the great work.:thumbsup:

Sonar Chief 03-05-2012 12:19 PM

Nice
 
Very Nice, I was wondering when I'd see some pictures :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Keep us up to date! Good job so far:cheers:
Did you order a new air grinder yet?
Michael

makoshark 03-05-2012 01:54 PM

Thanks guys:cheers:

Yeah, I received it a couple weeks ago and finally put it to work this past weekend. It works a little bit better than my old IR's. The cut-off wheels I bought are not up to par though

makoshark 03-05-2012 02:56 PM

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Am I doing this right?

Minitub...

tubbed69 03-05-2012 02:56 PM

job well done so far,motor looks great

72Z/28 03-05-2012 03:11 PM

Great progress. I wonder where you purchased the toe boards and floor pans from.

Keeps the photos coming man. :thumbsup:

makoshark 03-05-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 72Z/28 (Post 399640)
Great progress. I wonder where you purchased the toe boards and floor pans from.

Keeps the photos coming man. :thumbsup:

I got them from Rick's first gen. They were the USA made panels

makoshark 03-07-2012 01:19 PM

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Small update...Progress is progress though:woot:

I also decided not to reuse my original inner tubs and modify them. I just bit the bullet and ordered a new set of DSE inner deep tubs. Less work involved:thumbsup:

makoshark 03-11-2012 08:11 PM

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Not much going on this weekend as far as the car goes. I did get out yesterday afternoon and built 1 of the 2 sub boxes.

I'm still waiting on my DSE deep tubs and some sheet metal to make any further progress for the mini tub install:(

makoshark 03-31-2012 08:15 AM

:rolleyes: Gotta get out today and do some Spring cleaning and a little work in my veggie garden. Later I will get some work done on the car. Stay tuned...know you all are waiting

makoshark 04-01-2012 04:59 PM

Well, I tried to get the driver's side tub done this weekend, but that did not happen. I made progress and am almost ready to weld in the tub, just not quite there yet though. Mini tubs are more difficult than I realized. I believe I would rather install a quarter panel than do mini tubs:faint:

makoshark 04-12-2012 03:04 AM

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I'm still plugging away at the driver's mini tub. I am almost ready to install the new inner tub and complete that side. My timing for getting this done keeps getting interrupted, so it's been a bit of a slow go.

Also, I picked up a bunch of steel, pneumatic ram jacks and a geared hand winch for another project, as if I need more. I need to have this done ASAP, so it will interrupt getting started on my passenger mini tub install. However, it will help speed up the install and allow me to work more comfortably on all areas of the car.

Sonar Chief 04-12-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 407280)
I'm still plugging away at the driver's mini tub. I am almost ready to install the new inner tub and complete that side. My timing for getting this done keeps getting interrupted, so it's been a bit of a slow go.

Also, I picked up a bunch of steel, pneumatic ram jacks and a geared hand winch for another project, as if I need more. I need to have this done ASAP, so it will interrupt getting started on my passenger mini tub install. However, it will help speed up the install and allow me to work more comfortably on all areas of the car.

Looks like you are building a rotisserie ....:thumbsup: I can see in the picture where you notched out for the nuts, how you gonna close that off?
Looking good ...:thumbsup: but it is Thursday already.

214Chevy 04-12-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 400800)
Not much going on this weekend as far as the car goes. I did get out yesterday afternoon and built 1 of the 2 sub boxes.

I see you chose CDT speakers. I have those in my Chevelle and couldn't be happier. The are a great quality speaker. You will be happy with them.

makoshark 04-12-2012 06:19 PM

Yup, a rotisserie. I'll have it done, HOPEFULLY, by next weekend.

My week has gone nothing like I was expecting. I was taking off tomorrow to go to Super Chevy, but someone passed the buck on me and I have to take care of something in the morning and then can make the show:(

Only thing I can do is just weld a small piece of flat stock over the notch. My frame rail is stout now though:thumbsup:

The plan this weekend is get the drivers side tub done and start drilling holes on the rotisserie. As soon as my round tube comes in I will begin to make the housing for the worm gear assembly. I have to have 2 sections of the round tube machined to fit the outer races of the tapered bearings. Once that is done, then I can do finally assembly of the roto

makoshark 04-12-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 214Chevelle (Post 407407)
I see you chose CDT speakers. I have those in my Chevelle and couldn't be happier. The are a great quality speaker. You will be happy with them.

Yeah, I have been using their speakers for quite a few years now. I love them:thumbsup:

makoshark 04-19-2012 02:39 PM

I want to give a shout out to the great folks over at Matt's Classic Bowties and Ridetech. Great bunch of people to deal with and all my future business, as has been in recent history, will be with them.:thumbsup:

Danny, here's one for you:cheers:

Truturns on are backorder:( Still have plenty to do while I wait on it though

No progress worth reporting at the moment. I'm waiting to get my tool and die guy to machine my round stock to fit the outer bearing race I'm using on my rotisserie. That, of course, will keep me from getting it finish built.

makoshark 04-25-2012 09:14 PM

I took my last final exam Tuesday and am not due back in school till middle August! I finally have most all the time I need to get busy on my project. I took today off so I could do absolutely nothing. I needed to give my brain a break. I'm off of work for the rest of the week, so I'm looking forward to getting lots done on my car. Hopefully I'll have my round stock back early next week so I can finish my roto. I'm anxious to see how well my design works out compared to my last rotisserie that I built.

makoshark 04-30-2012 02:24 PM

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FINALLY got the driver's side mini tub installed!!!!!!!

makoshark 04-30-2012 03:35 PM

I have been researching driveline angles and am a bit still confused on exactly what I need to set my rearend and transmission angles at. I spoke with the company making my driveshaft and they told me they usually try to shoot for 2* down at the trans tailshaft and 0 to 1* down at the pinion. I am running Ridetech Airbar with coilovers at all 4's. What do I set them at?

Roberts68 04-30-2012 03:45 PM

Looks great!

Is there a bluish gray coating on the tubs or is that a camera deception?

I was wondering whose tubs you used as I have not followed your thread all along, then I saw you were going to split and widen the OE and thought NO WAY, that looked too good! :lol:

Read on to where you decided to use DSE.:thumbsup:

makoshark 04-30-2012 03:50 PM

Thanks...lol, I got lazy and just ordered a set:) The blueish grey your seeing is Dupont epoxy primer. My whole car is coated in it. I primed the tubs prior to installing them. Keeps them from flash rusting and helps already having them coated once installed.

Sonar Chief 04-30-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 411209)
FINALLY got the driver's side mini tub installed!!!!!!!

Nice :thumbsup: Are you gonna stitch weld the inside to the trunk and pan?
Looks good, keep it up and you'll be done:thumbsup:

makoshark 04-30-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 411224)
Nice :thumbsup: Are you gonna stitch weld the inside to the trunk and pan?
Looks good, keep it up and you'll be done:thumbsup:

Yeah, I have a bit of a gap where I cut out too much metal at the rear of the tub. I'll finish welding it all there once I get it up on the rotisserie. It's just plug welded at the moment. Just like the factory did it

makoshark 04-30-2012 04:40 PM

I take that back, I forgot. I have to fill in a gap at the rear of the tub in the trunk and I'm going to use some Lord Fusor body adhesive instead of stitch welding it there.

makoshark 05-01-2012 05:50 AM

Driveline angles! Any help?

Sieg 05-01-2012 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 411367)
Driveline angles! Any help?

Here ya go:
http://www.iedls.com/Education-Zone.asp?CID=6

http://www.hurst-drivelines.com/wp-c...roc_111606.pdf

makoshark 05-01-2012 02:24 PM

Thanks Sieg

makoshark 05-05-2012 06:47 PM

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I got the passenger side tub cut out and prefitted. I'm pleased with how well it's fitting with just my first cut. There is not going to hardly be any trimming to this side to make fit well.

I have to finish notching the frame rail at the bottom. Make the closeouts and the reinforcement bracket that I made to go inside the frame rails. I also have to epoxy prime the tub and drill holes in it. I wonder if I can accomplish all this tomorrow:_paranoid

intocarss 05-05-2012 07:52 PM

THAT looks good :thumbsup:

Sonar Chief 05-05-2012 08:39 PM

Very Nice :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Keep us posted with pixs, you know we like pixs!!

makoshark 05-05-2012 10:03 PM

Thanks guys...More comin'

makoshark 05-18-2012 01:47 PM

I want to use my thread to give a praise for Ridetech. I was just reading a thread over on pt.com where someone was being impatient with Ridetech. I saw where Brett let this person know he will take care of his problem, but he will not let him run over him or his employees. Brett did a fine job in handling that situation. I chose Ridetech because they 'USE' their suspension and it has been proven time and time again. It may not be the best of the best out there right now, but it fit what I wanted. I wanted a clean looking, simple setup WITHOUT a panhard bar. Ridetech just went waaaay beyond the call of duty with me because my TruTurn was on backorder for so long. They really did not have to do what they did for me, however they have a lifetime customer with me!

A+++++++ to AirRide Technologies...Customer support and products are top notch

makoshark 05-20-2012 02:54 PM

I finished installing the passenger mini tub. I still have to weld in the trunk hinge bracket to the tub. I got most of the AirBar installed as well. I can't find my freaking angle finder, so I can't weld on the upper brackets. Also, the company that sold me my u-bolts sent 2 of them the wrong size. I took pictures of everything thus far, but for some reason my computer will not recognize the memory card anymore. Needless to say, it's been a good day, but also a VERY frustrating day as well:mad:

makoshark 05-20-2012 03:02 PM

Also...

My TruTurn finally showed up Friday. Excited about that. My front wheels will be here monday, but still have to order front tires. Plan is this week, after I find my angle finder and finish up the rear suspension, is to halfa$$ sandblast my other subframe and install the ATS upper coilover brackets, slide it under the car and weld on the DSE subframe connector brackets. Then install the motor and trans to modify the crossmember. Once I can manage to get that done, I will send the measurements over to the driveshaft place to custom make an aluminum driveshaft for me. I'm going to mock up the entire car. I'm tired of cutting, welding and grinding right now. I want to turn wrenches for a while so I can get sick of doing that:rolleyes: Think I can get all that done by the end of next weekend?

makoshark 05-30-2012 04:43 PM

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Pictures from installing the passenger mini tub. Tubs are now basically complete

Sonar Chief 05-30-2012 05:54 PM

Looks good :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

What cut measurement did the mini tubs come out to be? (2.75" and make a flange outa the last 1/4") that will be my next adventure after I get the cowl all welded up.
Turning wrenches is a nice break from welding, I'm working on my engine while waiting for parts.

makoshark 05-30-2012 06:12 PM

From the shock tower to the rear of the car, you have to actually cut at the 2.75" line and then from there forward, you fold over the last 1/4". When you get going on them and find you need some help, then I can shoot you my # to help you through them. DSE makes minitubbing as easy as it can be made, but it is not an easy task. Prior to these, quarters were the hardest I had tackled, but I now feel mini tubs are the hardest. It could be because of the internal brackets I made. Those definitely created complications


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