Budget suspension project
 

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I've got a buddy w a 69 Camaro - all stock - and he's looking to upgrade his suspesnion. Budget is 4k including shocks, brakes and rear leafs (parts only if all bolt ons). Intended use is spirited street driving maybe an AutoX or two but mostly street (99.99%).

Constraints are build around ATS/Speedtech tall AFX spindles. Use Kore3 c5 brakes.

What would you do? I have a plan, but want to hear all opinions...:lateral:

Are the spindles included in the 4K? Has he bought wheels yet. Reason I ask is he will have to pay attention to backspace with ATS spindle if he's shooting for bigger than a 245 up front..

Personally, I wouldnt spend over 25% of the budget on spindles. Use the stock spindle and check to see if he has the short steering arm. You say he's using Kore 3 brakes. Whats left in the budget?

My 67 had an Quick Steer steering box from AGR and I really liked it. Just a suggestion.

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$4K........does he plan on cheating a little? :D

I'm in the middle of installing Kore3 C5 fronts with a Wilwood 7/8 master, prop/distribution valve, new copper/nickle tubing, Hawk HP Plus pads, DBA slotted rotors on stock spindles. Lee just received my steering box today to rebuild with 12.7:1 ratio with 32 lb firm valving........approx. $2200 not including the inevitable incidentals.

Rear discs with parking brake are approx. $1450 and I'm under the assumption they are likely subject to knock back issues with the stock 12 bolt set up?

F&R Springs, Koni shocks, Hellwig swaybar, DSE shock plates, Guldstrand mod, new control arm bushings, ball joints, tie-rod ends, alignment? :_paranoid

Very interested to hear what you have in mind.

If your looking for an inexpensive way to make your car handle decently pick up CPP UCA's for $400 and keep the stock lowers. Use the QA-1 single adjustables with 550 lb springs. That will get you by just fine for street and auto-x. I've used the DSE and Global West sway bars and they are both similar and work well.

Thx for the responses guys. The guy already bought the spindle before he asked for help. You guys are pretty much on it. My idea - GW uppers, del-alum throughout, GW front swaybar, QA1 singles front and rear, GW L-2 cats. AGR box and hopefully a couple bucks left over. :thumbsup:

Mike also had a good idea - sell the spindles and go DSE Speed I front and and rear. Makes sense as there's no mix/match and no reinventing the wheel.

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Spill it Ron, :P
I am interested in the whole schpeil especially since I am looking at my $4k in combined refunds.

I already have a laundry list of parts squirreled away, and have flopped back and forth on various notions like a fish out of water for some time.

I would very much like to hear if the ATS are coming out of the $4k as others inquired. Wouldn't tall ball joints be a much lighter hit on the budget?

:_paranoid :_paranoid :_paranoid
there is this other company that has a bunch of stuff that you might consider????

Does the "other" company you speak of offer Purple Kool-Aide? ;)
:rofl:

:cheers:

Well, I may as well put my hat in the ring as well:)

http://www.ridetech.com/store/1967-1...er-system.html

If you are truly going to chase some track day or autocross stuff you might want to upgrade to the SA Series coilovers that are rebound adjustable for an extra $300.

Hey if i need to include a pack of purple Kool-Aide then so be it.

No worries Bret ............ i got this one............... lol :thumbsup:

There ya go buddy. Not far off from where I'm at now. :thumbsup:

Calling you later today Blake. I have a few questions about camber curves w the spindle....:thumbsup:

I'm no expert, but I'll give my two cents since I understand tight budgets; while trying to stay brand neutral.

First I would sell the spindles and add that to the budget. I would go with the Hotchkis springs and shocks, anyone's UCAs, Del-Alum bushings, someone's hollow 1-1/8" front bar and a complimenting rear bar, tall upper (and even lower) ball joints, Baer's bumpsteer kit, someone's subframe connectors, and solid (or no) body bushings.

That should leave you with plenty of cash left over for all of the other accoutrements.

:cheers:

edit: This should be after replacing all of the wear items.

I disagree. The spindles will help a ton and he wouldn't get retail for them, so he would be losing money in the end.

Here's what I had on my 67 and it was a great car to drive....and I drove it a ton!

ATS Spindles
Speedtech upper control arms
Koni shocks-front and rear
Global West L-2 leaf springs
AGR steering box
Del-Alum bushings
front sway bar (don't recall which brand)
C5 brakes w/ baer (14" front, 13.5" rear) drilled and slotted rotors
Kore3 kit
global west sub-frame connectors

Only complaint I had was that I couldn't hang in the corners with Todd while running around Lake Mead. :lol: Other than that it was a great car that was totally fun to drive.

I just took a look at Speedtech's road assault package and it looks like the perfect setup for a car like this.

Ron if you want more specific info let me know and I'll see if I can find all the paper work from the Bucket. Should be able to give you a fairly complete list.

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I also would like add my 2cent's.The Ride tech componet's are awesome part's for the money.Kevin has proven they WORK.Scott M.Ride Tech Dealer.