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hulsund 05-11-2012 03:58 PM

rear
 
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Matt@BOS 05-11-2012 07:12 PM

Yes :lol:

Anything in particular you an wondering about? Additional info might help others provide specific feedback.

Matt

camcojb 05-11-2012 07:25 PM

more info would help give you a specific answer, but everything DSE sells and does is top notch.

camcojb 05-12-2012 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulsund (Post 413740)
i have an 9" rear from Detroit speed and the rear is very noisy and they will not repair it . So their service is very bad.

first off, they don't "make" the rear diff. They may sell a complete rear end, but another company physically makes the parts. The warranty would likely be between you and the manufacturer whomever that is. What exactly has DSE told you, and who are you speaking with over there? I cannot imagine them refusing to help, there has to be more to this story.

GregWeld 05-12-2012 09:36 AM

If he gave them as much information as he's posted here.... it's little wonder he's getting the response he's getting.



To the OP (original poster) -- aftermarket rear end gears are noisy in most cases -- they are PERFORMANCE parts not your grandmothers buick parts... so if you're hearing gear whine on declaration - that would be normal. Is that what you're hearing?

Musclerodz 05-12-2012 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulsund (Post 413740)
i have an 9" rear from Detroit speed and the rear is very noisy and they will not repair it . So their service is very bad.

9" third members come preset. Your issue is with the manufacturer if there is a legitament problem. DSE uses Moser, which uses Motiv gears, and they can have noise, especially if it has a Tru-Trac in it.

Vince@Meanstreets 05-12-2012 10:21 AM

yeah, tru tracs can get pretty noisy, but what noise are you experiencing and what fluid are you using?


which one applies to your situation
Howling- accelerating, deceleration, up hill, down hill coast
Whine
Knocking- heavy, moderate, and light (clicking)
Rubbing noise-turning left or right

214Chevy 05-12-2012 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulsund (Post 413748)
The rear is new used about 200miles


That's the key word right there..... "used!!". Regardless if it was said to only have 200, like new miles on it. When you buy used, you buy as is. I'm pretty sure that was stated somewhere in the sale. Especially, if it was being sold off another person's car who wanted to go another route.

Ron in SoCal 05-12-2012 11:32 AM

This thread is hilarious...:unibrow:

coolwelder62 05-12-2012 12:03 PM

Did you follow the break in process right.After install It must be driving 20-30 miles (vering speed's but not thrashing on it) then allowed to fully cool. Then repeat the process.If the break in process is not followed to the letter it will make noise.This is not DSE's or Moser's problem.DSE is very easy to work with.They do thing's right and ask that their customer's do the same.

Stuart Adams 05-12-2012 12:57 PM

I've ridden in all their test cars and a few of my own, they all have some gear wine. Its pretty standard I think.

FETorino 05-12-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 413773)
Did you follow the break in process right.After install It must be driving 20-30 miles (vering speed's but not thrashing on it) then allowed to fully cool. Then repeat the process.If the break in process is not followed to the letter it will make noise.This is not DSE's or Moser's problem.DSE is very easy to work with.They do thing's right and ask that their customer's do the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 413757)
yeah, tru tracs can get pretty noisy, but what noise are you experiencing and what fluid are you using?


which one applies to your situation
Howling- accelerating, deceleration, up hill, down hill coast
Whine
Knocking- heavy, moderate, and light (clicking)
Rubbing noise-turning left or right

Like he said 1. Did you break it in correctly? If not then you may be the cause of the problem.

Additionally
2. What gear oil are you running?
3. Who did you buy the third member from?

Different gear sets are different. Some are consistently noisier. The ratios and the carrier play a role in the amount of noise. Did your conversations with the builder say your goal was performance and durability or quiet comfort?

Bottom line is some noise is an acceptable consequence of a performance rear. You aren't describing the noise and when it is occurring so who knows if this is what you have or if it is improper break in or if it is a mistake on the builders part.

coolwelder62 05-12-2012 04:08 PM

Every 9 inch ford gear set I have ever used whined.Even after correct break in.I have many differant brand's.And they all have forum of nosie.I think that is par for the course.

chr2002ca 05-12-2012 04:26 PM

You could try wrapping the carrier in several layers of Dynamat. It worked great on the whining noise my first wife made.

214Chevy 05-12-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamess113 (Post 413772)
I think he means it was bought new and he has put 200 miles on it.

Ooohhhhhhhhh...okay!!!!!!!!:_paranoid :_paranoid

pokey64 05-12-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 413804)
You could try wrapping the carrier in several layers of Dynamat. It worked great on the whining noise my first wife made.


Well if that don't muffle it then I'd just run open headers to drown it out!

Ron in SoCal 05-12-2012 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 413804)
You could try wrapping the carrier in several layers of Dynamat. It worked great on the whining noise my first wife made.

You really need to work on your personality Chris...:lol: :lol: :lol:

FETorino 05-12-2012 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulsund (Post 413797)
I bought the third member from detroit speed brand new and do the break in after instruction from them. I use non syntetic gear oil from texaco 80-90w

What is the noise?

Does it howl?
Does it whine?
Does it knock or click or clunk?
Does it do it under acceleration or deceleration or cruise?

Spiffav8 05-12-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 413804)
You could try wrapping the carrier in several layers of Dynamat. It worked great on the whining noise my first wife made.

:_paranoid Do I need to help you hide a body?

chr2002ca 05-12-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 413861)
You really need to work on your personality Chris...:lol: :lol: :lol:

Same thing my 1st grade teacher said. Old news. :lol:

Flash68 05-12-2012 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 413804)
You could try wrapping the carrier in several layers of Dynamat. It worked great on the whining noise my first wife made.

:rofl: That's a winner.

coolwelder62 05-12-2012 08:02 PM

If the gear set is whinning when power is on,& no noise when off the throttle this is an indication it's time for a new ring & pinion.

FETorino 05-12-2012 08:04 PM

Its time to change the oil anyway swap to Lucas 85 / 140.

If that and some more break in miles isn't quiet enough plan B.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 413804)
You could try wrapping the carrier in several layers of Dynamat. It worked great on the whining noise my first wife made.


hulsund 05-12-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 413896)
If the gear set is whinning when power is on,& no noise when off the throttle this is an indication it's time for a new ring & pinion.

Is whinning when i cruising on the higway ,will try to change oil and use 80-140

Vegas69 05-12-2012 09:43 PM

Since when should properly set up gears whine? I've never heard a peep out of mine. Of course, my cars not a kitten either. :D

Matt@BOS 05-12-2012 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 413916)
Since when should properly set up gears whine? I've never heard a peep out of mine. Of course, my cars not a kitten either. :D

Yeah, but even if it did, we certainly wouldn't been able to hear it over the whining about brake pad knock back, or valve lash, or whatever else has to get changed out on big blocks frequently :lol:

Matt

Flash68 05-12-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratman67 (Post 413915)
you must be running a pansy exhaust system if you can hear anything other than the engine...put some free flowing mufflers on the car, then buy a mans sound system and let her rip, problem solved....

:lol: :thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 413916)
Since when should properly set up gears whine? I've never heard a peep out of mine. Of course, my cars not a kitten either. :D

Did I read/hear that 9 inchers are more prone to this noise than 12 bolts? Thought I did.... :question:

Vegas69 05-12-2012 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 413925)
Yeah, but even if it did, we certainly wouldn't been able to hear it over the whining about brake pad knock back, or valve lash, or whatever else has to get changed out on big blocks frequently :lol:

Matt

Don't change the subject. :lol:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 413928)
:lol: :thumbsup:



Did I read/hear that 9 inchers are more prone to this noise than 12 bolts? Thought I did.... :question:

I was wondering the same thing.

Matt@BOS 05-12-2012 11:21 PM

Alright, so I've never actually heard mine make a whining noise. However, I have heard it make a popping/clanking noise once or twice when pulling away from a stomp, same goes for Bad Penny. A little disconcerting but they're still going strong.

Matt

sixnina 05-12-2012 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 413928)
:lol: :thumbsup:



Did I read/hear that 9 inchers are more prone to this noise than 12 bolts? Thought I did.... :question:

What do you expect when you put a ford under a Chevy?:thumbsup:

Flash68 05-13-2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixnina (Post 413932)
What do you expect when you put a ford under a Chevy?:thumbsup:

What do I expect? A full floater. :lol:

Hey, I'm heading down to the shop in the next week... if you're around come by and check us out. Maybe Rich will share one his 20 beers with you. And maybe not.

Vince@Meanstreets 05-13-2012 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulsund (Post 413898)
Is whinning when i cruising on the higway ,will try to change oil and use 80-140

If its a constant whine and doesn't change with accel or decel it maybe a pinion preload issue. Sounds like you'll have to have it set up again.

If you can, get it inspected. Any good shop can pinpoint a differential noise.

coolwelder62 05-13-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulsund (Post 413898)
Is whinning when i cruising on the higway ,will try to change oil and use 80-140

that won't help less you add sawdust to the gear lube.

FreddieCougar 05-14-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 413916)
Since when should properly set up gears whine? I've never heard a peep out of mine. Of course, my cars not a kitten either. :D

You probably can't hear the gears whine over YOUR whining!
HA HA!
sorry, have I been gone from the forum too long to make jokes like that?
Tim

Flash68 05-14-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreddieCougar (Post 414207)
You probably can't hear the gears whine over YOUR whining!
HA HA!
sorry, have I been gone from the forum too long to make jokes like that?
Tim

No that was perfectly appropriate. :rofl:

Vegas69 05-14-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreddieCougar (Post 414207)
You probably can't hear the gears whine over YOUR whining!
HA HA!
sorry, have I been gone from the forum too long to make jokes like that?
Tim

ha ha ha:unibrow:


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