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Chassisworks 05-15-2012 12:53 PM

Chassisworks g-Bar and g-Link Misinformation
 
There is a significant amount of misinformation in the forums regarding the Chassisworks g-Bar and g-Link rear suspension system for '67-69 Camaro. To clear up the confusion we have prepared a detailed response, which can be downloaded to read in its entirety.

g-Bar Misinformation (PDF)

Failure of the upper-control-arm frame rail attachment...
This image shows a torn passenger-side frame rail, with the tear extending from a sleeve that was welded in by the installer. This failure is a result of an improperly installed frame bracket. Additional detail regarding this particular installation is given in our g-Bar Misinformation document.
http://www.cachassisworks.com/images...rmation_06.jpg

The car does not sit as low as I would like…
Another comment commonly made is that the g-Bar and g-Link systems do not sit low enough. This is simply a limitation of the factory body sheet metal to suspension clearance. Our g-Bar and g-Links systems were designed to not involve cutting the floor to further lower the car. However, we do now have a few new products available that allow the suspension to be lowered beyond the original travel range. We also have a new rear frame product in the works that will allow the car to sit considerably lower. It will debut at SEMA 2012, no additional info will be available before then.

If you have any additional questions please contact me.

800-722-2269

[email protected]

Carl Ogren

Chassisworks Technical Sales

Mkelcy 05-15-2012 02:24 PM

I have no dog in this fight, but the correct link is: http://www.cachassisworks.com/whitep...nformation.pdf

John510 05-16-2012 04:49 PM

How about you offer (at no charge to current customers) another shock cross bar that won't hit the Fab 9 filler neck when the car is lowered?

Chassisworks 05-17-2012 04:28 PM

John510, you have a PM.

Camaro Dave's 05-19-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John510 (Post 414659)
How about you offer (at no charge to current customers) another shock cross bar that won't hit the Fab 9 filler neck when the car is lowered?


I am with John510 on this one !!!!

dirtshark 05-19-2012 10:44 PM

X3 with John...really would be nice.

pokey64 05-20-2012 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtshark (Post 41526)
X3 with John...really would be nice.

X4 on a trade in prgram for the cross bar...

BBC71Nova 05-20-2012 06:04 AM

X5. If this were to materialize then add me to the list too.

John510 05-20-2012 08:52 PM

OK Guys Im in talks with Chassisworks about the crossmember. I am going to set my pinion angle then take a bunch of pics for them.

Hopefully they will replace/fix it if it still hits after setting the pinion angle.

tmadden 05-21-2012 08:53 AM

For the install experts
 
Would the additional 1 1/4 cause my car to bottom out? It doesnt look like it to me. I would love to keep my investment in the G-Link but I do want the additional stance fix.

Patrick 05-21-2012 06:55 PM

X6. Love the handling and ride quality but would really like it to sit a bit lower in the rear.

fillpot 05-22-2012 09:13 PM

Maybe i'm missing something but if you already have a g-link installed you have to cut off the old brackets and reweld these to make the car set lower.THANKS!

BBC71Nova 05-23-2012 06:15 AM

You are correct but this really isn't so much about adding additional height adjustment. At least with the 3rd gen Novas it appears from my install that the G-link w/Fab9 will go as low as possible before you'd be required to cut up the tunnel and trunk floor. See my build thread for pictures.

This "me too" activity is - or at least should be - simply about the special cases where someone has installed a G-link along with the Fab9. This setup - all from Chassisworks - puts the diff filler cap in contact with the shock crossmember shortly before the shocks bottom out at full compression. I'm planning on dorking around with my pinion angle some this weekend as well to see what that changes.

I don't think this would be an issue with a 12 bolt setup or most other setups without filler caps up high on the diff. I am not able to confirm this but I also don't think this would be an issue for anyone running the leaf pad mounts instead of the weld-on lower shock mounts. In the pictures I've seen it looks like those don't go as low. Therefore, the shock compression would happen sooner.

It is frustrating and if a "bolt in" replacement crossmember is offered then I'd be interested. However, at the point you've committed to going so far with a build as swapping a car to a completely different suspension design this level of modification/make it fit/fab work should basically be expected. You'd still be way ahead when compared to the work to install similar products.

Psydwaze 05-23-2012 09:29 AM

Both g-Bar/g-Link lowering kits are bolt-on solutions. The lowering blocks are for use with our bolt-on leaf-spring axle brackets. The shock mount extenders bolt to the existing weld-on or bolt-on g-Bar axle bracket and provide another set of holes to move the billet mount further down. Neither kit requires welding.

fillpot 05-24-2012 07:18 PM

Thanks,i'll be making a call to place an order!

onevoice 05-25-2012 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC71Nova (Post 415885)

I don't think this would be an issue with a 12 bolt setup or most other setups

Mine has a 12 bolt, and there is no interference issue whatsoever.

dirtshark 05-25-2012 07:57 AM

I am also running a 12 bolt, but with a Moser cover and I have clearance issues. The cross bar will come into contact with the cover on the rearend. Hopefully they come up with a optional crossbar, it not modification it is.

camoffett 03-14-2013 07:21 PM

I hate to resurrect this but I am having the same issue. I have the G-Link with a FAB9 rear end on a 69 camaro and the filler neck on the rear end is hitting the cross member. I am not far enough along with my build to see if changing the pinion angle will fix this or not.

Question is: Did adjusting the pinion angle fix the problem or did you have to modify the crossmember? I am planning on a very low ride height and it would be great to do any necessary modifications now, if needed, before I get farther along with the build.

onevoice 03-15-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camoffett (Post 470498)
I hate to resurrect this but I am having the same issue. I have the G-Link with a FAB9 rear end on a 69 camaro and the filler neck on the rear end is hitting the cross member. I am not far enough along with my build to see if changing the pinion angle will fix this or not.

Question is: Did adjusting the pinion angle fix the problem or did you have to modify the crossmember? I am planning on a very low ride height and it would be great to do any necessary modifications now, if needed, before I get farther along with the build.

call Carl at chassisworks, his number is in the first post in this thread

Chassisworks 03-19-2013 10:16 AM

No harm in bumping this thread; there's lots of good information in here. Give me a call and I'll get you taken care of. 916-388-0288 ext 247.

~Carl

ItDoRun 06-04-2015 12:00 PM

I hate to bring this back to life after 2+ years but did Chassisworks take care of the customers who had clearance issues with the upper shock cross member? I have a 12 bolt with the same issue and they're wanting to charge me for a new bar.

Chassisworks 06-04-2015 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItDoRun (Post 607443)
I hate to bring this back to life after 2+ years but did Chassisworks take care of the customers who had clearance issues with the upper shock cross member? I have a 12 bolt with the same issue and they're wanting to charge me for a new bar.

After all the back and forth we had a grand total of two customers come to us who were not able to remedy their clearance issue by properly adjusting the pinion angle. One modified the tube in the crossmember on their own, the other got the extra clearance tube from us.

Give me a call at extension 247 and I'll see if I can help you sort it out.

KHShapiro 06-12-2015 02:56 PM

this is funny to me that I came upon this thread . ive been in my build process so long (06)after being swindled by a few vendors and shops that my car is finally coming into its own. I purchased gbar/glink and fab9 from another vendor whom was based in Orlando (another long story entirely) and is no longer in business, thankfully . now that I am finally at the stage to set ride height my fab 9 hits the crossmember and pinion angle wont help. while I am having the cage installed I was going to have them take a look at it and see what can be done or made to remedy my problem. Chassworks do you have a new product that I can bolt in or do you have a specific drawing or suggestions that I have made to solve my issue. any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated . I have to do some sort of modification to get proper measurements to order some JRI hydraulics so any input suggestions would be fantastic.

Chassisworks 06-12-2015 03:35 PM

I am, also unfortunately, familiar with this storyline. I'm glad to hear that you're able to continue working on your project. We have an alternate shock crossmember tube that replaces the original tube. It jogs to the rear in the center. If you have a bender you could make one.

As always, if anyone has questions they should give me a call. Extension 247.


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