69 Camaro v2.0 - Project "Major Havoc"
 

All done! Wish you all the best of luck with your builds!

A little more room for those wider tires and lower ride height
Since my car will be around 1/4” lower in the front now with wider(275) tires, and because I already had rubbing issues at my previous height with 245 tires, I decided to go with Anvil’s carbon inner fenders. I don’t necessarily like the idea of putting carbon fiber on a classic car, but the function of these instantly will solve that rubbing issue for me so I decided to go with them. The fact that they saved me about 14lbs off the front versus my heavy GM originals is a welcomed side effect also. The folks at Anvil were great to work with and these fit pretty good actually. The outer wheel arch in my original fenders is slightly off so I had to massage a few mount points here and there on the Anvil inners, but overall they bolted without too much difficulty after creating the 2.5” holes required for the RS headlamp door assembly. I also had to drill the holes for fog lamp harnesses and the 3 mount points for the rear support brackets. I added some rubberized undercoating to the bottom to dampen the sound and protect them. I was going to paint the tops satin black to keep my original look and ‘conceal’ them, but the satin carbon look has grown on me so I’ll leave them as-is for now. I may paint them later. I’m sure some old-schoolers will give me hell about them at shows. Oh well.

This is the only picture I have so far. You'll see them a little bit in a few other photos:

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My wallet may be on fire but my new engine shouldn’t be
One thing I completely wanted to avoid with the future bigger, higher-compression, higher HP motor was cooling issues. I decided to play it safe, bite the bullet, and go with AutoRad’s setup. It’s a bit pricey but it’s the right thing to do and worth it, plus it looks much better than my previous setup. The folks at AutoRad were a pleasure to work with, they finished it right on schedule, and I was happy to do business with them. I decided to powder coat the core support and close-out panels satin black to keep the overall engine compartment appearance that I had before. Everything fit pretty good with the exception of where the hood latch assembly bolts to the upper cross bar of the core support. For some unknown reason, the upper bar and mounting holes on the bar were nearly 1/2” lower than where they needed to be. Just seems to me like that the crossbar is simply too low because all other holes and mount points on the support are dead on. There was no way the hood latch assembly would bolt up to this upper bar mount point AND the center support bracket that comes in from underneath it and ties everything together. I had to get the rear mount point to come up somehow. Since the bar itself and mount points on the bar could not be changed, I changed the rear mount points on the latch assembly. Not too difficult since there’s some room(thankfully) on the assembly to move those rear mount points. It just caught me by surprise considering how great all the other mount points had lined up and it took me a few minutes to figure out how to resolve. Overall, I highly recommend this setup to anyone.

I only took a photo of the radiator and you can see the powder coated core support a little in the last photo. I'll take more photos when I get the close-out panels installed and the radiator hooked up.

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Time to shift gears, manually
Part of this project is to switch from an automatic to a manual to make it a little more fun to drive. While I had the front apart and the ease of access, I installed Keisler’s hydraulic clutch setup and swapped out the automatic pedals for the manual setup. Also re-did the front brake lines because I had to move my Wilwood proportioning valve and distribution block to clear room for the Wilwood hydraulic clutch cylinder that bolts to the firewall. When I bolted this Keisler unit to the firewall and installed the clutch rod to the top hole in my clutch pedal, the angles weren’t aligning. The master cylinder angled down at 15 degrees below horizontal, whereas the rod going into it angled down at 22 degrees. The Keisler instructions stressed good alignment so I wanted to get these angles to match as best as possible. I could either tilt the master cylinder further down with the use of shims/wedges in between it and the firewall(ugh), or I could simply mount the rod in the lower hole of clutch pedal and decrease the pedal travel a little bit(so it won’t bottom out in the MC due to the extra travel). I asked Keisler about this and Shafi said the lower hole seemed like the route to go for me, so that’s what I did. The lower hole got the rod angle down to 17.5 degrees, so that’s very close to the 15 degrees for the master cylinder and should be good to go. Hope it works okay down the road.

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Looking like a car again
With all of the above sorted out, I’ve now been putting the front end back together this week and it’s starting to look my old car again. I still have a few more things to line up properly, a few mount points still to be reckoned with, and need to re-install the front bumper, but I’m almost done. Should be done by middle of next week. Because of the new AutoRad core support and Anvil inner fenders, I’m basically having to realign everything and massage a LOT of mount points which is a PITA doing that all over again. Getting those RS doors to sit just right again on several different axes is a chore also.

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Getting stiff and getting some protection – Nope, not a Trojan ad
Next up was the roll bar and seat harnesses decision. This was a big debate for me. On one hand, you have a perfectly good roll bar setup sold by DSE that I could get shipped to my door for about $650 with their free shipping offer. The alternative was the RideTech Tiger Cage and harness bar shipped to my door for $2750 thanks to a good price from Matt’s Classic Bowties and $10 shipping by RideTech. Quite a difference in price though. Here’s how I approached this decision. The Tiger Cage is much easier to install obviously. With the help of a new set of cobalt drill bits, I could basically bolt it in for a test-fit, unbolt it and paint it, and then bolt it back in. In the future, if I changed my mind about having it, I can simply unbolt it and sell it and it would be like new and I could fetch a good price for it. So I was digging that ease of installation and flexibility. Furthermore, the bars that go from the hoop to the package tray hug the roof line better than the DSE kit, lessening the chance that a rear passenger could wack their head on them. Also, the harness bar is already pre-bent to allow you to slide the seat back further which is very helpful. Lastly, I like how the Tiger Cage ties into the package tray instead of running through it. Seems like that adds some more rigidity in that area. The stainless steel I could care less about because I would spray it satin black anyway, but it’s nice to know it would never rust. So the big question that I pulled hair out on was: Are these advantages worth the extra $2000 dollars? (cuz that’s a lot of f’ing wampum). Well, fark it, I bit the bullet and decided it was worth it and purchased the Tiger Cage. Others would probably decide different, so roast me if you want. My wallet’s already roasting so we’ll pair up nicely. RideTech has always been pleasant to chat with at the shows, they weighed my car for free, etc, etc, so I was happy to pass some business their way. I’ve already spent some good money with DSE also, so I’m an equal opportunist. The cage arrived a few days ago and I’ll install it in the upcoming weeks. I hope it’s as bolt-in as they say it is. I’ll let you know how that goes. :)

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I’ll be adding these new Sparco Comp 4-pt harnesses and finally make use of the harness holes in my seats. The new camlock and grey(instead of yellow) colors on the belts is sharp looking. I’m sure RideTech is bummed to not see their harnesses going with their cage, but my car has always been a melting pot for vendor’s products so why try to be consistent now? It’s not like I’m getting hand-outs.

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The next few months
So the cage and interior will be installed over this next month along with a few new extra gauges and the center console which will need to be revised for the manual shifter. Then the minor rear suspension changes and Aeromotive gas tank the following month. Then probably the new wheels and tires in September/October. I was going to keep my Budniks and just have them rehooped, but the cost to rehoop and get the tires unmounted/remounted is a little pricey. It’s at that price where it’s almost the same cost to just get new wheels and tires and sell my current ones if I can fetch a decent price. Still undecided on it and pricing out my options. After the wheels and tires get resolved, I’ll finally be ready to concentrate on the engine and manual transmission which was supposed to be the original scope of Version 2.0.

Almost forgot, here’s what started all of this
I already have the new ZL Engine block. That’s actually what started this whole fiasco. It’s a gorgeous hunk-a-metal as Todd Akes can attest to(although he heard about my project and immediately put his car up for sale so he wouldn’t have to go up against a faster ZL1-powered Camaro :lol: :cheers: ):

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Can’t wait to get that built out and watch it run on the dyno and see what she produces. That’ll probably start late this year unless our ‘creating-a-family’ adventure continues to sap the life out of us. Since the new motor will be partially blue to match the car and will be a ZL motor, I’m giving her the name ‘BlueZiLLa’. Even got the mascot ready to go as you can see in the photo(yah, I was really bored one day). Not quite the ‘monster’ like other motors nowadays, but hey, it’s enough monster to get my sorry arse in trouble.

New Badging
Also had a chance to swap out my ZZ454 fender badges with a ZL489 badge. I grabbed the ZL letters from the new ZL1 Camaro and found some vintage numbers to go along with it. I like the new look. It’s not as big as it appears in the photo. About the same size as the previous.

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Very cool updates Chris! :thumbsup:

Thanks Ryan. :cheers: Your updates to your gorgeous ride actually gave me some much needed inspiration to make some of my own. Still lovin' those Fikse's you acquired. :thumbsup:

Chris,

I like the direction you are going. Great explanations so far.

I am too at the point of a roll bar. I want a four point harness for play days, but still need to get my two kids in the back seat. They enjoy the car too. I am on the fence between DSE and the Tiger Cage. Please take lots of pictures, including how the bars fit in the trunk, and connect to the package tray. Both are done in my car, so I want to see what I need to modify.

Also the inner fenders, did you have to pull your outer fenders to install the new inners? I too want to get 275s up front.

Thanks

Fantastic Chris (and about time you came out of the closet). Love your car and everything you do is top notch! :cheers:

Thanks Ron. :cheers: So sorry it took me so long to get this build thread started. Hopefully I made up for it by being overly detailed. :lol: Anxiously looking forward to your next post to your thread. You've got to be getting close now. :thumbsup:

Sure Mike, I'll take lots of pictures of the cage install and post them here. I had the same line of thinking about rear seat functionality as you do when I decided to go with it. As for the fender question, because of everything I was changing in the front end(core support also), I basically had to disassemble the whole front end, including pulling the outer fenders. I've heard you can change the inner fenders without pulling the outers, but it's supposedly not simple to do and most people said you should pull the outers if you want to avoid trouble. Carbon will scratch easy so I think it might be best to go the safe route, but I'd definitely do some more research on that innner fender removal/install process. I think there are some other threads on TeamCamaro and other sites that debate that same question.

Chris, great job on the upgrades, keep it up. It's going to feel like a new car for sure :thumbsup:

Chris, yes! :thumbsup:

Love your planning methods... and you don't follow down the paths of others unless you are convicted in it.... I can't always say that about myself and most others... :lol:

I definitely would tread lightly with that SS700 Keisler deal.... esp after the way the RS600 fiasco went.... but I know you are monitoring it. :)

Goal for timeframe for completion?

I'm passing the torch, buddy. :cheers: You are methodical in your planning and execution. I'm really liking your decisions and sticking to your guns on what you want. That ZL-1 with injection is going to be sweet! I'll miss my engine more than anything when my car goes down the road.

I really hate to say it, but that car needs a mini tub. :P Those 275's don't have a chance in hell. :lol:

Coming from you Dave that's a riot...:rofl: :cheers:

:lol: :yes: Strange question from our senor moderator.

Hey, I do have a goal. And I plan to hit it buster! :unibrow:

Hey I am pretty sure I read you preaching setting goals in the Healthy 101 thread.... not transferable here? :_paranoid

Oh, and I am only Senior when compared to Spiffa. :lol:

You wanna enlighten us Chief? I know Jerry, Senior Curtis and Gae want to know. Me too...:D

No. :lol: This is C-Rob's thread and we've been waiting MONTHS for it... :D :thumbsup:

Well said Dave...:cheers:

BTW, they only say Buster in old movies and South Dakota...:lol:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: We all have goals....but ours are to complete our cars this century :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

EDIT: Sorry Chris....couldn't help myself. I've read your thread a couple times now and love the direction of the car. Ain't nothin' wrong with stock sub and leaf springs. They are just as fun as any other set up you will ever drive.

Are you still mad at me for using OUR photo in my marketing? I was just talking to Kelli about making T shirts for the guys.:lol:

I caught that...:D

Seeing my thread hijacked there for a moment by 'the boys' brought tears to my eyes. I've been waiting for that for so long. I'm official now. Damn that feels good. :) No, wait, Mr. Weld didn't join the party. Still not official yet.

Thanks Dave! Yes, it's great to finally post this darn thing and start contributing again to this website. Hope to have the remaining mods done by February/March. Things are moving at a good clip now. I hear ya on the SS700. I'm keeping my fingers crossed but staying realistic and keeping my options open as there are some great alternatives readily and locally available. I'm not going to hold up my build because of the tranny.

By the way, fark you and your new home with that rediculous driveway. Freakin' gorgeous, of course. Congrats on that. Hopefully Kandie and I can make our way up there some time soon and check out your new digs. :cheers:

Thanks! I appreciate you mentioning that. I've thread through your build thread many times actually and it's helped me make some decisions on the path I'm going down now. So a big thanks for sharing your setup and experiences on the track. :cheers:

Thanks Al. That's much appreciated. :cheers: I sure as hell hope it feels different!

I'll gladly take that torch my friend, although it may not burn as brightly as it did in your hands, and kinda sorry you're handing it to me. Wish we coulda run the ZL's together at a few events. I'm sure your next build will be insane though, and I'll get as much inspiration from it as I got from Payback. Yah, the 275's in the rear are going to be way over-matched. If it becomes a real source of frustration, I'll consider the tubs. Or smaller injectors. :unibrow:

Chris,

Well done my friend. Awesome kick off for “Major Havoc”. Subscribed and you know I'll be watching with great interest. I know you've been chomping at the bit.

:cheers:

Finally! Your car has been apart longer than Dave's. Wait, my car died the same weekend as Dave's. I think that was four months ago, and that means you've been keeping this under wraps and plotting quietly for quite some time :unibrow:

Matt

Thanks Curtis. :cheers: I'm glad to finally be far enough long to have something to write about and also be able to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks for everything you've posted in your build thread, especially those renderings with the different wheels and colors. Since our cars are a lot like in terms of appearance, seeing the different wheel colors and stripes was very useful for me. When we last spoke at RTTC, it appeared at the time that we might be finishing our builds at about the same time and be able to lay down some victory rubber together. My finish date is now looking like around March. How's yours going?

Yes, "Finally!", I agree with that. The car has been apart too long with not much to write about. Got delayed with some doctor's bills and other adventures(which are still ongoing). Good to be making progress though. Not quite the skunk works you and your dad have going though, Mr. GT500, GT, and oh yah, that GM award winner '69. What's the scoop on your engine?

We just get rid of one all aluminum big block 69 Camaro and bamm--another one pops up.

Really stoked to see progress brother. Your former DSE minitubs are sitting in my raceroom--should you change your mind.

Am also relieved you will be keeping it a driver ---I think that keeps the fun factor greater versus having only a single purpose ride. It would be great to have one for each if funds and time allowed wouldn't it?

I've always loved your approach of being so well documented with respect to your parts, costs, experiences with install and the feedback on them after they've been tested. It's one of the things I have always appreciated about you, and Todd as well---honest feedback about the process from start to finish. Plus, it's a great read--I love all the tech and seeing it from start to finish with the details. It has saved me funds and has helped make decision making easier. I'll never do it---but am grateful for analytical and anal retentive engineer types like you and Todd. :lol:

Listen, Natalie and Christian can come stay with you guys as much and as long as you would like--so just say the word. Last night, Barbie and Ken made an appearance in the back seat of the Camaro--that crossed the "D" line.

Yeah, I see your thread is already morphing danger close towards another DG Project Update Open Discussion thread. What choice do you have when the chief derailer is also a Mod? :lol: God Bless DG, and God Bless America. We just need JerDog and Skip to join in and get some vids going. I'll see what I can do.

If you need a hand on any weekend, just say the word. I will plan a trip down soon so I can check it out---I'll bring the Dub machine.

Doug

Steve Rupp has been helping with that, and just as we finalized all of the parts selection, I suppose you could say that he got very busy helping to take care of a couple kids. :lol:

I hope to get the car back together in the next couple of months.

Oh, and like Doug said, if you need any help with anything, I'm close by and happy to help. I've gotten good at holding parts in one hand, and a beer in the other. I'm also good enough to only do more complicated things twice now. :thumbsup:

Matt

Chris, I apologize for the poor etiquette of our other members here who continually attempt to derail your thread. :D

That sounds like a personal situation buddy. :_paranoid :lol:

Thanks and would love to have you and the wifey anytime you're in the area! :cheers:

Keep on keepin on.

What, no technical update today Chris? Get busy Sir or you'll be hijacked by someone (Dave Gordon) after dinner...:P

Chris--come on--you are killing me here---give us something.

I heard my name and I'm lurking Great build now add some stripes to the roof would ya ;)

He saved up a years worth of normal updates for this thread. The next update might just be him testing and tuning at a secret location in Mexico.

Sorry gentlemen! I'm close to posting a new round of updates and photos. Got the front completely put back together with the exception of the electric fan controller that came in the mail yesterday. Will probably wire that this weekend. It took a little extra time to re-run some wiring, finalize a few rear mount points on the new inner fenders, and I also moved the horns down behind the lower valance so that they weren't hanging in front of the radiator and blocking air flow. I've also got the main hoop and hoop-to-package tray bars test fit and today I'm going to pull them back out and shoot them in satin black. So far, the Tiger Cage has lived up to its billing as bolt-in and it's been a pleasure to install with only minor exceptions and a few broken drill bits. I'll have a full write-up and more photos posted by the weekend. :thumbsup:

Looking forward to your build 2.0 Being a BBC guy as well and with alot of the things im doing or wanting to do, I cant wait to see how your car turns out! Love it :thumbsup:

Thanks! Yep, us BBC guys need to stick together and pool resources while we try to figure out how to get the headers to fit and the hood to shut. :lol: We're a dwindling breed. Doesn't 'rare' sometimes equal 'valuable' though? Maybe, maybe not, but let's hear it for those fat valve covers.

AutoRad Radiator, Core Support, and Close-out Panels: Follow-up notes
So the AutoRad radiator support and close-out panels are fully installed now. Maybe I’m unlucky or something, but my original hood latch assembly didn’t fit worth a sh_t thanks to the mount for it on the new AutoRad Radiator support. I had all original equipment that fit perfectly so I’m a bit puzzled why I had such trouble. The rear of the latch assembly actually fits up into a slot in the crossbar of the rad support and 2 lengthy bolts run through the entire bar and through the holes in the latch. Well, the 2 holes on the crossbar were about 5/8” too low which caused havoc with the center brace that comes in from underneath the latch and bolts to the bottom of it. The latch had to come back up in the rear to its original location somehow. So I drilled new holes in the rear of the latch assembly and took about 5/8” worth of material off of it along with some other minor grinding. That fixed that. Then, the front mount points on the latch would not reach my upper valance. About 1/4” short. That’s shifting the hole latch assembly 1/4” to rear of the car, which screws with both the close-out panel and the latch piece that attaches to the hood, so you can’t just place 1/4” shims in there to make up the difference. Instead, I had to take a cutting wheel and open up the slot under the AutoRad support upper crossbar to allow the latch to move forward by 1/4". That solved that. Everything else on the AutoRad stuff fit great with only minor massaging of holes or a few shims necessary in a few other spots, but this latch thing was way off and was aggravating. It’s still puzzling to me that nobody else has documented it yet. Maybe it was just particular to the one I received. Moving that slot forward 1/4” in the crossbar and raising the holes 5/8” would have made it perfect for me out of the box. Regardless, I still recommend AutoRad to everyone. Great stuff.

So with the exception of the fan controller, the front of the car is wired and ready to go. I’ll put the RS grill and bumper on later when I know for sure I don’t need to do anything else up front. Those I’ve already test fit so they’re ready to just bolt back on.

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Moved the horns down so they’re not blocking air flow to the radiator:

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According to a few folks that have used it in AutoX’s, this Lee finned remote reservoir supposedly did a good enough job cooling that they didn’t need an additional cooler, so the small cooler I previously had in front of the radiator should no longer be needed and I’ll leave it off.

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RideTech Tiger Cage Install

Hey, this may send some of you into cardiac arrest, but something I just bought that was ‘bolt-on’ actually just bolted on. No sh_t. It took a little 'persuasion' in a few places, but overall RideTech did a great job with this kit. Quality stuff. A number of the holes are little tricky to drill because of the angles or tight spaces to work in, and one of their templates was not printed at the correct DPI so I had to resize it on my copier to 94.5% and that made it exact, but other than that it was a pleasure putting this in. The installation time will vary greatly depending upon how much of your car is already put together and what's in the way. For example, having leaf springs, the fuel line, and tail pipes makes dealing with the rear mount points under the car much more time consuming, along with removing sound deadener at the mount points, and also finalizing the interior around the new mounts points can take time. It took me about a day to get my interior prepped, the main hoop installed, and the hoop to package tray bars installed. Then about 2 hours to remove that and spray the necessary parts in satin black. Then a few days of drying time, and then another full day to re-install those pieces, the harness bar, rear trunk bars, and cleanup. Then maybe another day to re-install the interior and modify the package tray and make covers for the mount points. You might be asking why I painted it? Well, honestly, the finish on it from the factory is a bit ‘patchy’, and it has some scratches/marks on it from shipping. It’s not like the stainless you see on kitchen appliances. You could probably go over it fairly easily with something to get the finish the way you want it though, so don’t let that stop you. Secondly, and more importantly for me, I just didn’t want bright silver bars running through my interior and prefer to have the cage less ‘noticeable’. Having the bars and clamps in satin black and pairing that with the shiny mounting bolts and Ridetech identification plate went nicely together so overall I’m happy with my decision to spray them. I left the bars in the trunk unpainted because you won’t be able to see those anyway and they ain’t gonna rust.

Just in case you’re wondering, the weight of the bars, harness bar, and all mounting hardware, fasterners, and brackets is about 75lbs.

The main hoop and mounts for the hoop go in fairly easily:

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Either I have the worst tape measure ever, or someone at RideTech needs a lesson on image size/DPI when printing their templates:

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Be prepared to drill a lot of holes, some in some tight places:

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2 more close-ups of the other mount points. Yes, I did remove the sound deadener from underneath any of the mount points to eliminate any possible flex. I just trim the deadener edges with aluminum tape:

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I forgot to take pictures of the various brackets that bolt in underneath the car under the trunk and for the main hoop mounts. With the addition of these brackets underneath and the fact the all 6 mount points bolt in on 2 different axis, the mount points and the system are quite rigid.

Sprayed and final fitment:

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The harness bar is ready to go in also, but I still need to finalize the rear package tray and a few trim pieces so I'll wait to install that later:

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Hey RideTech, thanks for making this kit. Quality stuff.

Short-term ‘Up next’:
1. Install, wire, and test the fan controller.
2. Install some additional gauges in the interior.
3. New Aeromotive stealth gas tank
4. New rear AFCO shocks and thicker lowering blocks, maybe GW Del-a-lum rear leaf spring bushings also to decrease deflection
5. Check rear axle bearings and rear brakes
6. Move axle tube vent that Moser placed right under where the tail pipe loops over and they clang together on full suspension travel. Thanks Moser for the great friggin location on that.
7. Bleed the brakes

Then wheels/tires, then transmission, then the engine. Saving the best for last.

Looking good Chris, the headache will be worth it in the end :thumbsup:

Lookin' good Chris. Keep pluggin' :thumbsup: