sheetmetal ls3 intakes on ebay
 

has anyone purchased or used one of these speedmaster ls3 intakes? doing a little research it appears they are manufactured overseas. i would love to have a sheetmetal intake as i've had hogan's in the past but saw this alternative.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FABRICATED-L...98795a&vxp=mtr

Wow man, thats a good price. Like anything from China you get what you pay for.

If you end up gambling and ordering one let us know how it works out.

pretty much an exact copy of the original Precision Metalcraft manifold I had.

fuhking BITERS...

Well, that sucks. I had a Precision Metalcraft manifold and it was a piece of art. There is no way Jeff could compete if people start buying these instead. Hopefully most realize what they are, or are not paying for.

Chinese = Junk...............Can't change Facts...........

I have a Precision Metalcraft manifold sitting in front of me and externally it looks exactly the same. They even refer to the integrated velocity stacks. Just remember, if it seems too good to be true, it is, you get what you pay for, Especially if it comes from China!

Wonder how good it fits

I don't know, i think you guys are wrong. Them welds are too nice to be done by a 7 year old chinese kid.

The seller is in Fontana. Someone should drop in a say hi to Speedmaster.

I agree with you Vince, the welds look outstanding. I have a funny feeling the intake that shows up at your door won't look like the one pictured. After all, have you ever got a Big Mac that looked like the one on the menu?

i dunno who Speedmaster is but a sheetmetal intake for 800 bucks?..

you buggin.. i really question the integrity on that.. and even if it was.. it sure isnt PMC so i still say they are raggedy sorry ass bootleggers

I can sell you a sheet metal intake for $800....and you would buy it. But I'd only do it once. How hard can it be.

Come on Garic, you can have your Big Mac but leave that Mc Rib alone.

ROFL

At $800, I can assure you the seller will sell hundreds of them. In this hobby of ours where many guys would kill for expensive parts and along come this one at a third of the original price. Best believe these will sell like hotcakes, as they say.:lol: Shood, some member on here is going to buy one. How much do you want to bet? I like the Big Mac analogy. :rofl: :rofl:

Thats that mentality that got this country the way it is now..

hows that for rolling on the floor..

I bet if we saw some bootleg DSE "hydroformed" subframes on ebay for 700 bucks maybe folks might get more serious about what im saying..

It is from ProComp......it may be fine but even if it made 500 horsepower on a stock LS3 and you gave me one I would make a bong out if it.

More reading if you would like http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...php?p=10458279

ProComp is the same "manufacturer" that was selling the spot on MSD ignition box clones......after some time spent in court you will notice ProComps boxes are blue now.

I have a set of manifolds made in China and the welds look perfect. Almost like a machine welded them. Not to mention they were 395$ verses the 2K for the same thing made here......

Every one of us owns something made in China. In fact my DC Shoes I'm wearing right now say "Made in China" LOL!

thanks for the link :thumbsup:

I get what everyone is saying about cheap copies, what it does to the economy, negative effect on the "true" high-end piece, etc.. I think most buyers nowadays are pretty savvy. As long as they aren't presenting it as another brand, most know what they are buying and are ok with it being a lesser quality piece. It doesn't look to me that they are trying to "fool" anybody.

I don't see this as any real threat to Hogan or PM or any of the high end fabricators. Their market is someone who wants (and can afford) the best and bragging rights to their label. Those builds involve $3-4k intakes and Forgelines, not ebay intakes and Intros...:willy:



Jeff-

admit it, you bought them at the flea market again didn't you. LOL

typed on my US HP company key board which was "made in China". DOH!

that car looks familiar

Now that wasn't nice at all Amir. Sign of the times, besides China owns us. Its been going down hill long before you or I were born.

As long as there is a market for it they will continue to push the goods whether you or I don't endorse it or not.
Not that I would buy a $1500 Hogan manifold (mainly cause I could never afford one) or an overseas copy but I would definatly buy for the quality and the performance aspect in mind. So guess where my mentality has always been. :cheers:

If you want an idea of what to expect quality wise when purchasing knock offs, check this out...

http://forums.corral.net/forums/5-0-...body-pics.html

And they were financially able to sponsor a Top Fuel dragster....
Just goes to show there are plenty of people buying (parts or service) based only on price. :(

Well my MacBook Air that cost me 1100$ says Made in China under it. It must be a POS now....

My iPhone was also made in China.

My Craftsman drill driver says Made in China.

My coffee cup says Made in USA though. :lol:

Over 90% of USA is made in China guys. Start looking at the labels on your favorite items

I just wish people would look at the big picture!!!!!!! yes everybody owns things made in china how ever there are fewer choices out there and tons of great companies going out of business every day for the failure to be able to compete,osha standards,enviromental responsibility,high tax base. That is why even big companies are looking to out sorce manufacturing to other countries. The country is going down hill at a rapid pace because everyone has the same outlook and people don't seem to care about the long term affect [aka] you childrens future! if we all continue to not care we can kiss the future of this great country good buy!!! I personally don't want to see that happen! Don't take this the wrong way everyone just needs to make a decision of trying to do something to make a difference. The intake is a direct copy someone put a great deal of time designing and engineering to produce this and how would you feel if this was all your work and now you have to give it up with no way to even go after what was once yours and now yet another us based company goes out of business! I love this country and I want my kids to grow up speeking english! Just trying to shine some light on our future of americans!;)

Your comparing apples and oranges. Apple (no pun intended!)chose to have their phone made in China, its still their product and is represented as such as well as Nike and millions of other products. I dont like it, but its at least their choice.
Although I dont know him, I doubt Jeff at PMC endorsed this intake or has any connection to it. Myself and others gripe is against cheap unauthorized knockoffs no matter where they're made




Although I admit, in a Tequila induced haze long ago, I did buy some "Oakley" sunglasses for $5 on a beach in Cabo!:dance:

China has been capitalizing on copying American products for way too long now. We should all do ourselves and fellow Americans a favor and stay away from anything made in China.

It's hard when you can save $100's or even $1K for almost the same product :unibrow: I'll admit it, I try to get the best deal I can and if I dont, then I'll fork out the money to buy it....What gets me is that companies out there in the USA are still trying get top dollar for their product that's been out for years and wont put out any discounts for repeatable customers.

Curious what's gonna happen when the innovative companies doing the R&D don't sell enough product to stay in business. Will companies like ProComp actually take their place being leaders in innovation? Likely not if they intend to keep their price points where they are.

I'm sure this kinda thing happens in most industries. A quick trip through your local Wally World proves that. However, it sure seems rampant in automotive aftermarket these days. Curious why that is. I suspect it is caused by the relatively small market resulting in high parts cost, i.e. less unit sales to spread development cost among. These high unit costs vs. perceived/intrinsic value result in a market prime for someone to copy something and undercut. Of course that just ends up reducing units sold for the innovators which ultimately drives up costs on innovative products.

I have to admit it....it doesn't look too shabby on the car on Yellow Bullet. :_paranoid :_paranoid Just wait until the word gets out, I can see lots of guys buying these for the looks. Especially, guys that can't afford the real deal or the ones that just want a stock, 80k mile LS pullout.

I agree with you 100% and was probably the first guy in line to get a decent product for cheap back in the day but after just recently rebounding from the economy's impact I wont support foreign products or people anymore. The economy hit the construction industry pretty hard and I used to subcontract to less expensive illegals all day long but I wont do it anymore. They are taking work away from you, me, and every other hard working American in the country and I'm done with it.

Well how bout that.. a COUPLE guys seeing what im talking about.

dude..

I got 2 kids.. one day they will have to deal with the problems I was too indifferent to deal with.

why is it that China is getting richer with a bustling economy and we are in trouble.. why?

its that "****it ima get me a discount" we so love in America that is costing us.. it may be even worse in the future.

so.. again.


**** THOSE BITERS..

I have the real thing.. I loved the real product.. the welds are gorgeous.. and I think the BITERS are worthless.. even it they work.

Makes me think of Ring Bros hood hinges and all the copies that followed. I remember at SEMA, they had just debuted a set of hinges on a car and Mike had a guy wanting the file on the hinges. He would have a copy back from China in a week.

And it gets worse. There are even human rights abuses for our (seemingly useless) daily products:

http://shine.yahoo.com/work-money/le...202400773.html

And we wonder why China owns us. :rolleyes:

It's simple math guys.
US made product cost = US hourly labor rate (?) + taxes, etc.
VS
Chinese made product cost = many that will work for a cup of rice!

Now the only missing component is people willing to buy a cheaper product......and that's where the consumer comes in.

The ONLY way this will change is if the consumer stops buying the cheaper product.
Just like drugs my friends, if no one buys them, the transport of drugs into America stops.

Just sayin.

But there is always someone that will and it will never change. And that is the tip of the iceburg. There are almost no manufacturing jobs left in America. Empty factories sitting idle. Workers becoming stagnant collecting unemplyment. Those almost broke workers are buying the cheap knock offs to save a buck. The pattern is there and there is a million reasons why but no true fix.

Cup of rice is close. Most make an average of $7.50 per week...a 80-110 hour week.

I am a manufacture of goods. The regulations, laws, fees and high rents prohibit me from hiring employees. I can produce and design more but without employees im forced to do it alone and only produce so much. My business is then low output. Banks will not loan money to a low output business. Even with 2 homes, an 800+ credit score and $145K in assets (Shop equipment). Times my situation by 10 thousand and you have a pretty good idea of what the small business have to deal with in the US.

The government loaned Solyndra $535 million to run its business. Soon after recieving its money they go bankrupt.
Short time after that Solyndra files a $1.5 billion antitrust suit against China’s three biggest photovoltaic panel manufacturers. Guess who if funding those companies.

The stories go on and on.

And dont forget about the simple engineering

I agree with you and get your point.
There is another side to this that we as americans are just as guilty of... I had a bunch of guys that helped build my house who didn't speak much english BUT they showed up for work every day, worked all day, and did a good job. The "american" subs I used might not show up for several days, worked half a day, did sh!tty work, and would try to file injury claims or steal supplies from the job site. It wasn't about cheap labor, it was about finding someone who wasn't so lazy and dishonest that I wanted to give them a shovel-ectomy.


Jeff-

One thing that I have not heard from anyone in this thread is where do most of the products come from to be duplicated in China???

From the USA!! People here are the ones sending the USA made products over there to be made cheaper!! It's not Chinas fault completely, it's our own people ripping off our own people!

I know there are plenty of China company's doing this on their own now but we started it or at the very least feed the beast.