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Rick D 12-31-2012 11:08 PM

2:00 AM Eastern time Senate gets it done!
 
At the last minute US Senate passes budget pulls us back from the ledge :willy:
Nothing like waiting until the last minute!!!

This was just reported on CNN

Track Junky 01-01-2013 01:20 AM

Thanks for sharing. Thats great news.......... as long as the House of Representatives buys it.

Vince@Meanstreets 01-01-2013 01:35 AM

its a total crock.....same way to try to scare the sheeple as they did in 99 and collect some overtime pay in the same swoop.

Track Junky 01-01-2013 01:47 AM

They get overtime? WTF

tones2SS 01-01-2013 07:43 AM

Too bad we went over the edge a while ago. Almost 17 trillion in debt?!?!:faint:
Yeah, let's hope it stops there. (We know it won't.) At least the Farm Bill did get passed and we don't have to shell out a 'wheel barrel of dollars' for a gallon of milk.

Spiffav8 01-01-2013 07:46 AM

In the big picture they did very little. From the top down our government is failing. I am disgusted by their lack of ability and willingness.

Ron in SoCal 01-01-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tones2SS (Post 454742)
Too bad we went over the edge a while ago. Almost 17 trillion in debt?!?!:faint:
Yeah, let's hope it stops there. (We know it won't.) At least the Farm Bill did get passed and we don't have to shell out a 'wheel barrel of dollars' for a gallon of milk.

Join up:

www.fixthedebt.org

GregWeld 01-01-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 454743)
In the big picture they did very little. From the top down our government is failing. I am disgusted by their lack of ability and willingness.




Absolutely right!



Let's look at the broader picture... it's the American people that continue to elect, and then re-elect, ever more polarized legislators.

Track Junky 01-01-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 454766)
Absolutely right!

Let's look at the broader picture... it's the American people that continue to elect, and then re-elect, ever more polarized legislators.

Oh but wait, theres even a bigger picture.......There aren't enough American people voting or getting involved.
We need to get the message out and motivate more Americans........create posters of all the faces of these irresponsible politicians and hold these bastards accountable!!

parsonsj 01-01-2013 05:47 PM

Quote:

There aren't enough American people voting or getting involved.
We need to get the message out and motivate more Americans........create posters of all the faces of these irresponsible politicians and hold these bastards accountable!!
If more Americans get involved, the posters won't be needed. But I do agree that more participation will help.

Track Junky 01-01-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by parsonsj (Post 454848)
If more Americans get involved, the posters won't be needed. But I do agree that more participation will help.

Posters with the faces of the politicians and a description of the role they play or have played posted throughout America will give the people with not enough time, resources, or energy a visual of what and who is going on in America and possibly motivate them to get more involved.

Track Junky 01-01-2013 08:03 PM

House of Rep's have approved the Bill :thumbsup:

Vince@Meanstreets 01-01-2013 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tones2SS (Post 454742)
Too bad we went over the edge a while ago. Almost 17 trillion in debt?!?!:faint:
Yeah, let's hope it stops there. (We know it won't.) At least the Farm Bill did get passed and we don't have to shell out a 'wheel barrel of dollars' for a gallon of milk.

12 trillion with ourselves...its mind blowing. Don't worry they will just raise their credit limit. Debt ceiling HAAAAA you need an actual house to have a ceiling.

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 454775)
Oh but wait, theres even a bigger picture.......There aren't enough American people voting or getting involved.
We need to get the message out and motivate more Americans........create posters of all the faces of these irresponsible politicians and hold these bastards accountable!!

its not only the American people voting and participating its the RIGHT people voting and participating in America.

Vince@Meanstreets 01-01-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 454898)
House of Rep's have approved the Bill :thumbsup:

yep, had to squeeze in those last couple hours in cause today was an official Holiday. LOL

Track Junky 01-01-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 454902)
yep, had to squeeze in those last couple hours in cause today was an official Holiday. LOL

Nice. Holidays=Triple time :thumbsup: :lol:

Track Junky 01-01-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 454900)
its not only the American people voting and participating its the RIGHT people voting and participating in America.

Exactly. Only the right people are working mega hours a day and dont have the time to read about who and what are important.

GregWeld 01-01-2013 08:38 PM

I've said it time and again -- people get caught up in voting "Presidential" and then they'll go and vote for their Representatives and Senators and they don't have ANY IDEA what they stand for, or maybe even, what party they are with! And they're FAR more important! The POTUS doesn't make law... he's just a friggin' mouthpiece. The House and the Senate make the laws. :cheers:

Track Junky 01-01-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 454909)
I've said it time and again -- people get caught up in voting "Presidential" and then they'll go and vote for their Representatives and Senators and they don't have ANY IDEA what they stand for, or maybe even, what party they are with! And they're FAR more important! The POTUS doesn't make law... he's just a friggin' mouthpiece. The House and the Senate make the laws. :cheers:

EXACTLY!! THANK YOU!!

Sieg 01-01-2013 09:25 PM

I watched the poker/vote game in the shop tonight while working on the car. It's comforting knowing that Air Force 1 is en-rout to Hawaii now to help us spend our way out of this trivial deficit issue. :rolleyes:

GregWeld 01-01-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 454922)
I watched the poker/vote game in the shop tonight while working on the car. It's comforting knowing that Air Force 1 is in route to Hawaii now to help us spend our way out of this trivial deficit issue. :rolleyes:




SOB offered me a ride.... I turned him down....:woot:

Sieg 01-01-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 454927)
SOB offered me a ride.... I turned him down....:woot:

I hope you're paying the fuel bill. A$$, gas, or grass but nobody rides for free! :woot: :woot:

FETorino 01-01-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 454775)
Oh but wait, theres even a bigger picture.......There aren't enough American people voting or getting involved.
We need to get the message out and motivate more Americans........create posters of all the faces of these irresponsible politicians and hold these bastards accountable!!

People Voting is great but most are lemmings who get swayed by the marketing hype of big $$ marketing; From either side.

How about we all focus on ending the policy of lobbying. How does out vote ever count when a paid goon with an expense account is always in our legislators office telling them how to vote.

If somebody can explain the value of lobbyist or why we all continue to allow the practice to exist I'd appreciate it.

Legislators will never represent their constituency if they are only listening to special interests.

Shmoov69 01-01-2013 10:41 PM

Two words......

TERM LIMITS!!!!!

FETorino 01-01-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shmoov69 (Post 454942)
Two words......

TERM LIMITS!!!!!

Won't do crap.

The $$ will buy the votes for their guy and the Lobbyist will keep them informed on what their backers want the vote to be.

Vote for your city and county reps and attend a council meeting or two. Push for change from below.

Any post at a state or national level is dictated by the marketing of the candidate by whoever has the $$.

Sieg 01-01-2013 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 454944)
Won't do crap.

The $$ will buy the votes for their guy and the Lobbyist will keep them informed on what their backers want the vote to be.

Vote for your city and county reps and attend a council meeting or two. Push for change from below.

Any post at a state or national level is dictated by the marketing of the candidate by whoever has the $$.

Fact :yes:

Bucketlist2012 01-02-2013 08:51 AM

I am waiting for them to bring my "Dog and Pony" back home... I am sure the Dog and the Pony are tired...:willy:

Vince@Meanstreets 01-02-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 454948)
Fact :yes:

yep, to fix a sick tree, you start at the roots or let it continue and it falls on your home.

GregWeld 01-02-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shmoov69 (Post 454942)
Two words......

TERM LIMITS!!!!!


THREE WORDS....



ONE TERM LIMIT

GregWeld 01-02-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 454944)
Won't do crap.

The $$ will buy the votes for their guy and the Lobbyist will keep them informed on what their backers want the vote to be.

Vote for your city and county reps and attend a council meeting or two. Push for change from below.

Any post at a state or national level is dictated by the marketing of the candidate by whoever has the $$.



Anyone doubting this statement should read this article published in the Wall Street Journal today.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...669161978.html

camcojb 01-02-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 455138)
Anyone doubting this statement should read this article published in the Wall Street Journal today.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...669161978.html

you have to join to read that article.

GregWeld 01-02-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 455140)
you have to join to read that article.



Well CRAP!!


I thought everyone read the WSJ!!! :willy: :rofl:


Okay -- A quickie summation:


The "fiscal cliff" resolution managed to keep or ADD a whole slew of special tax breaks for named corporations etc. There's too many to even list - but basically it was all lobbying for their very own special "deal" to be included in this bill passing.

It's so F'n' UNamerican I could just spit!

Track Junky 01-02-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 454934)
People Voting is great but most are lemmings who get swayed by the marketing hype of big $$ marketing; From either side.

How about we all focus on ending the policy of lobbying. How does out vote ever count when a paid goon with an expense account is always in our legislators office telling them how to vote.

If somebody can explain the value of lobbyist or why we all continue to allow the practice to exist I'd appreciate it.

Legislators will never represent their constituency if they are only listening to special interests.

Hard for me to believe that. I dont think the lobbyists have access to the majority of our middle class. Nor are most of our middle class Americans in a position to where they would have access to the lobbyist to even recieve any sort of cash to sway them one way or the other. There are a whole lot of us out here working mega hours, trying to put in some quality family time, and dont have enough time to research and get educated enough to know who's who and whats what. My belief is that there just aren't enough of the middle class involved.

tones2SS 01-03-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 455142)
It's so F'n' UNamerican I could just spit!

Yeah, just about everything this administration and Congress does makes me sick and want to spit.

FETorino 01-03-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 455158)
Hard for me to believe that. I dont think the lobbyists have access to the majority of our middle class. Nor are most of our middle class Americans in a position to where they would have access to the lobbyist to even recieve any sort of cash to sway them one way or the other. There are a whole lot of us out here working mega hours, trying to put in some quality family time, and dont have enough time to research and get educated enough to know who's who and whats what. My belief is that there just aren't enough of the middle class involved.

You just made my point WE aren't represented. IF you are educated you realize you have no real choice at the polls.

If you are the majority you are sucked into the marketing hype of picking one of the two sides that don't give a crap about you and are bought by special interest.

Track Junky 01-03-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 455392)
You just made my point WE aren't represented. IF you are educated you realize you have no real choice at the polls.

If you are the majority you are sucked into the marketing hype of picking one of the two sides that don't give a crap about you and are bought by special interest.

Wow. That sucks in so many ways. I used to say that I dont vote because I dont have the time to research who and what I'm voting on and that even if I did it wouldn't make a difference. Now that I want to make time and get involved I feel like I'm back to square one but still have a hrd time seeing that there cant be a solution to this problem(I just reflected back to your lobbyist comment).
Does this hold true for politicians that get voted into the Senate and the House?

FETorino 01-03-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 455404)
Wow. That sucks in so many ways. I used to say that I dont vote because I dont have the time to research who and what I'm voting on and that even if I did it wouldn't make a difference. Now that I want to make time and get involved I feel like I'm back to square one but still have a hrd time seeing that there cant be a solution to this problem(I just reflected back to your lobbyist comment).
Does this hold true for politicians that get voted into the Senate and the House?

We're screwed. Start voting at your local level. Go to your city council meetings. Even at that level it is sickening but you can make your voice heard somewhat.

GregWeld 01-04-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 455138)
Anyone doubting this statement should read this article published in the Wall Street Journal today.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...669161978.html



Okay - here's a link that will work.... 67 BILLION in special interest tax breaks... all while they preach "let's screw the rich" 'cause they're not paying their fair share... which is total BS but sounds good...

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...interests?lite

Spiffav8 01-04-2013 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 455553)
Okay - here's a link that will work.... 67 BILLION in special interest tax breaks... all while they preach "let's screw the rich" 'cause they're not paying their fair share... which is total BS but sounds good...

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...interests?lite

Where's the balance? (said sarcastically) :rolleyes:


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