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clill 06-12-2013 07:37 AM

Props to Detroit Speed
 
After finishing Power Tour with Mayhem I just have to mention how much I like Detroit Speeds subframe. This is my first car with their subframe and it just flat out works. I have not track tested it yet but Stielow has proven that aspect of it's function several times. My comment is more toward the ride quality. No rattles, bangs, creaks etc, just a nice smooth ride. It can be a fine line between performance and ride quality but this setup seems to have nailed it. Thanks Kyle, Stacy and the gang at D.S.E for making driving a old Camaro that much better.:cheers:

Stuart Adams 06-12-2013 08:01 AM

I agree. Driving my blue 69 from DSE to Columbus with their sub and q link was just so smooth and easy. It did all things so well.

Mayhem is a very cool car.

Vegas69 06-12-2013 08:20 AM

It was definitely one of the favorite aspects of my car. Every time I drove that car, the quality of the ride and handling was what stood out the most. My only gripe was the steering was a little light but that could have easily been fixed with a rack and they now have that option.

V8TV 06-12-2013 08:31 AM

How was the T-56 Magnum to drive daily? Any commentary, noise, shift quality, etc.?

frankv11 06-12-2013 09:15 AM

Have most of DSE catolog on mine can't wait to get it on the road. Maybe a while but hopefully sooner than later.

Lenie 06-12-2013 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratman67 (Post 485987)
my dse subframe has a rack in it...

Nothing wrong w/a good rack:action-smiley-027:

Vegas69 06-12-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratman67 (Post 485987)
my dse subframe has a rack in it...

Different rack...

Stielow 06-12-2013 07:51 PM

Mayhem had a full DSE chassis with JRI shocks. We spent one day at the track to dial in the shocks before OUSCI but other than that the chassis was as delivered from DSE. The chassis just works!

Mark

GregWeld 06-12-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 486099)
Mayhem had a full DSE chassis with JRI shocks. We spent one day at the track to dial in the shocks before OUSCI but other than that the chassis was as delivered from DSE. The chassis just works!

Mark




And there ya have it! If you say it works - then there's not much more debate!


Glad to see Charley out there having a good time in all your hard work.... :D

Matt@BOS 06-12-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 486096)
Different rack...

I have the same rack as you in my Camaro and the steering isn't as light as yours was. Not sure why. I've driven a few and they all seemed a little different based on the combination of racks, wheels/tires and alignment. All drove really well!

Vegas69 06-12-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 486121)
I have the same rack as you in my Camaro and the steering isn't as light as yours was. Not sure why. I've driven a few and they all seemed a little different based on the combination of racks, wheels/tires and alignment. All drove really well!

Has to be pump pressure.... I'm sure it was engineered with their GM pump they sell.

Vince@Meanstreets 06-12-2013 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 486118)
And there ya have it! If you say it works - then there's not much more debate!


Glad to see Charley out there having a good time in all your hard work.... :D

You think Mark knows its coming back to him pregnant? :drowninga: LOL

They have alot of engineering in it and the system works.

Stuart Adams 06-13-2013 06:46 AM

Performs when you need it to and also smooth and a joy to drive when just enjoying a cruise. Same setup for each. Great stuff.

Matt@BOS 06-13-2013 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 486135)
Has to be pump pressure.... I'm sure it was engineered with their GM pump they sell.

I wouldn't be surprised if they put in a little restrictor or made a little change with some aspect of the pump from one year to another. They are constantly experimenting on their test cars and their subframes now ship with different shocks, springs, sway bar and rack than the original ones that we ordered.

GregWeld 06-13-2013 11:24 AM

Any time you're running a GM pump you need a restrictor -- because most of the racks used are Ford based...

dontlifttoshift 06-13-2013 11:26 AM

....unless you have a DSE rack that was engineered to run on 3 GPM.

GregWeld 06-13-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontlifttoshift (Post 486229)
....unless you have a DSE rack that was engineered to run on 3 GPM.



That would be a major plus!! Back in the day (Todd's variety) --- my guess is they used more of an off the shelf version.

Flash68 06-13-2013 12:27 PM

I believe it's just a $20 flow reducer that solves the "issue" of GM pump to Ford rack.

GregWeld 06-13-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 486245)
I believe it's just a $20 flow reducer that solves the "issue" of GM pump to Ford rack.



You're right -- it's no big deal -- unthread one - and thread in another with a smaller orifice... DONE.


But the real key is here ---- CHARLEY now hates The Mule (I'm making this up) --- Jackass is just that -- and MAYHEM is the new sheriff in town. :D :D :D

Vegas69 06-13-2013 07:08 PM

You learn something new everyday.... I'll have to pass that on to the new owner.

Vince@Meanstreets 06-13-2013 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 486342)
You learn something new everyday.... I'll have to pass that on to the new owner.

What were you experiencing Todd? High effort or super loose?


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